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Hi guys, Very nice <B>7-3-1(+12.9*'s)</B> day yesterday which could have easily been 10-1. Pushed with KC after having a 14 point lead in the 4th quarter and had a very tough drop on 3rd down which would have kept a drve alive in OT right before the blocked punt, JAX was inside the 20 THREE times without scoring a point and outgained Baltimore by 130 yards and we lose by the hook in the AZ game and by 1.5 points on Bears total. Hell, come to think of it, we could have easily swept the board.

I like the side and total tonight:

<B>4* INDY(+4.5) AND 3* OVER(46)</B> I see a LOT of people on Pittsburgh here, but we won't be. Both teams have weaknesses on defense that the other team can exploit, but I think the Colts have the better weapons to exploit with and their defense is actually statistically better than Pittsburgh's to this point in the season. The overriding factors in the selection of the Colts are the intangibles. <b>1) Special Teams</b> is a big edge for the Colts and has been the most drastic improvement in this team since Dungy arrived. They are ranked #1 in the league in net punting behind Hunter Smith at 42.3 as compared to Pittsburgh's net of 33.6 which ranks 26th. When you add in that Walters is ranked 5th in the league at 11.5 per return among guys with at least 10 returns compared to Randle El's 6.1 average, the Colts have nearly a 15 yard edge in the punting game which is HUGE. The Colts also have the advantage in the FG department as Vanderjagt is the #1 kicker all-time in FG accuracy while Peterson has already missed 3 attempts inside 40 yards this season. The Colts rate the edge in Kickoff coverage as well as Peterson is having a problem getting the ball deep. His average kickoff is reaching the opponents 14 yard line and then the Steelers are allowing a 25.6 yard average per return for an average start position of the 40 yard line!! The Colts opponent average start on kickoff coverage is the 29, so another 11 yard advantage. <b>2) Turnovers</b> The Colts are a +3 on the season and the Steelers are -7 as Maddox and Stewart have combined for more INT's(9) than TD's(8) and the Steelers have also fumbled 11 times and lost 7 of them. <b>3) Penalties</b> The Colts have been penalized just 235 yards on offense(3rd in the league) while the Steeler offense comes in at 344 yards(14th). <b>4)Third down defense</b> The Colts are 9th in the league allowing 35% of opponents third downs to be converted while Pittsburgh is allowing a whopping 48.7% which ranks 26th in the league. <b>5) Pass protection</b> Manning has been sacked only 9 times in 178 attempts or roughly 1 in every 20, while Maddox has already been sacked 6 times in just 78 attempts or 1 in every 13. The Colts are still not one of the top pass rushing teams in the league, but have improved over a season ago. Both teams will move the ball and score tonight as the Colts will exploit the 22nd ranked pass defense of the Steelers and the Steelers will run the ball on the Colts. Colts have the advantage everywhere else in my opinion and will keep it tight and likely win outright someting like 28-24.

Good luck all......Bookie
 

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I'm with ya book....had a good day myself yesterday including a late 3 teamer with Phil/Cleve/over in the sd game ( thank you LT)..

I bet the first half line +2.5 also...

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Im also with you book :D ......I see alot of Pitt here....but the Indy betters will be postiong soon
 

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Congrats on a great day yesterday!!

defense is actually statistically better than Pittsburgh's

Colts have played 1 good team this year and they lost?

statistically any teams D would look better after playing the Bengals, jags, texans, and Baltimore who is averaging only 14.8 points a game.

Steelers arent exactly on fire... but they have faced much stiffer competion.. i guess what im saying is.. we dont know if the colts are any good yet..?? i guess we will find out tonight, but me ill probably lay off the side..

thoughts?

once again great job yesterday
and good luck tonight!:D :D
 

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Thegibber, Pitt has also played Cincy and Baltimore and against the three <b>good</b> offenses they have faced have given up 30 points in ALL 3 games.

The Colts gave up only 21 to Miami and controlled the play, but shot themselves in the foot with turnovers in that game.

Good luck, but I stand by what I said and the Steelers will have much trouble stopping the Colts here.

Bookie
 

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Steelers are tough on Monday nights but New England showed how to play this team: PASS, PASS and then PASS some more. The question is will Dungy let Manning toss it up 50 times or will he run a more conservative offense? :shrug:
 

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i think the steelers after there bye week worked on there passing defense,although they only played lowly bengals the week after bye they shut them down totally! u will see the men against the woman tonite! pittsburgh will outhit the colts and punish them on mnf! ive seen it before-cowher will have his team ready! indy is overdue for a loss anyways! gl all u colt backers but i think steelers by 10 tonite
 

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I'm leaning towards the Colts
BUT I dislike Dungy ALOT

He's slowly turning that team into the BUCS-MIDWEST

Plus-- I'm also a little hestitant to see
Bookiebusters pick the Colts

When THAT service is also located in Indianapolis....

A little bit bias for the HOME team maybe ?


Opinion - turnovers will decide this one.
Could go either way....

Picking the winner is no easy chore in this one EITHER !!!
 

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I think a heavy dose of pressure on Maddox will let Indy get up early...I'm not sold on him Bettis will do well but Indy is the play....

GL2all:weed:
 

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Pitt has also played Cincy and Baltimore
they haven't played the ravens yet. next week in bal
 

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I feel these 2 teams are headed in different directions starting tonight. Pitt will expose this pourous Indy team for what they are. In my opinion Indy is the worst looking 4-1 team I've seen in a while, and on the other hand Pitt has looked pretty good over the last 3 weeks, winning 2 of 3 and giving N.O. all they could handle in New Orleans, I'm telling you this team is on the rise big time.
 

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They have played:
Monday, 9/9 9:00 PM ET at New England L 30-14
Sunday, 9/15 8:30 PM ET Oakland L 30-17
Sunday, 9/29 1:00 PM ET Cleveland W 16-13 708*
Sunday, 10/6 1:00 PM ET at New Orleans L 32-29 712*
Sunday, 10/13 1:00 PM ET at Cincinnati W 34-7

GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GL & PEACE, HAIL:D
 

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COLTS:
9/8 @Jacksonville Jaguars W 28 - 25
9/15 MIAMI DOLPHINS L 13 - 21
9/22 @Houston Texans W 23 - 3
9/29 BYE WEEK 12:00 PM
10/6 CINCINNATI BENGALS W 28 - 21
10/13 BALTIMORE RAVENS W 22 - 20


I think this is going to be a good game but until Pitt. figures out their identity I will continue to go against them! What scares me is the amount of points Indy allowed Cincy to put up against them. I may just take the over and forget the side instead now! :shrug: I'M SO CONFUSED!
GL & PEACE, HAIL:D
 
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I feel these 2 teams are headed in different directions starting tonight. Pitt will expose this pourous Indy team for what they are. In my opinion Indy is the worst looking 4-1 team I've seen in a while, and on the other hand Pitt has looked pretty good over the last 3 weeks, winning 2 of 3 and giving N.O. all they could handle in New Orleans, I'm telling you this team is on the rise big time.



Pitt defeated a clevland team that is not as good as people think, and they backdoored their way into a cover with new orleans. A td and two point conversion late that did not matter. Good luck , but I see this game being close, and in close games I like points.
 

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started the season o k vs miami and jacksonvile....the last few weeks he looks a little beat up....i don`t think the knee is ok.....stats down from around 4.5 per carry prior to this year to 3.5 per carry....we`ll see tonight...keep an eye on edge...manning won`t be nearly as effective without edge to keep `em honest...
 
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