More Good News for WI!

[Mags]

Wisconsin Sen. Herb Kohl will announce his retirement on Friday, according to a Democratic source.

He'll become the eighth senator and sixth Democrat to retire this cycle.

 

[Trench]

This is good news for Wisconsin and for the nation because it opens the door for Russ Feingold's return to the Senate. I signed the petition to draft Russ for the Senate (link below) and so should you.

http://democracyforamerica.com/activities/516?t=fbs

 

[Mags]

Trench:

Did Wisconsinites resoundly reject Feingold and his liberal ways just 18 months ago?

It clearly wasn't a vote FOR Johnson - it was, however, a clear vote AGAINST Feingold.

Liberalism (outside of Madison) is not "in" in Wisconsin.

I hope we have seen the last of that guy. Even Kohl (who is an empty skull) is less dangerous than Feingold.

The good thing is WI will finally have a voter ID law (one of the few states in the country that doesn't have it) - which will really hurt Dems chances in the next election (and future ones).

Not sayin' the next senator will be a Republican - it's probably 50/50 right now - but am saying ABF

Anything But Feingold. The people spoke clearly 18 months ago. Feingold is a liberal nutjob.

 

[bleedingpurple]

Trench:

Did Wisconsinites resoundly reject Feingold and his liberal ways just 18 months ago?

It clearly wasn't a vote FOR Johnson - it was, however, a clear vote AGAINST Feingold.

Liberalism (outside of Madison) is not "in" in Wisconsin.

I hope we have seen the last of that guy. Even Kohl (who is an empty skull) is less dangerous than Feingold.

The good thing is WI will finally have a voter ID law (one of the few states in the country that doesn't have it) - which will really hurt Dems chances in the next election (and future ones).

Not sayin' the next senator will be a Republican - it's probably 50/50 right now - but am saying ABF

Anything But Feingold. The people spoke clearly 18 months ago. Feingold is a liberal nutjob.

Like to see who will be running. We will get an early indication about Scott Walker immediately as I am sure the Democratic nominee will definitely be be attacking his policies. If the Dem wins then that will be a red flag to Walker, if the Rep wins then Walker will looking good.

 

[Mags]

Like to see who will be running. We will get an early indication about Scott Walker immediately as I am sure the Democratic nominee will definitely be be attacking his policies. If the Dem wins then that will be a red flag to Walker, if the Rep wins then Walker will looking good.

Not sure I agree. The recall elections will be a better indication of Walker, don't you think?

US Senators have such little influence in a state. I think, if Feingold runs, he'll have a good chance to win due to name recognition. There is nobody the Repubs can put out there, outside of Ryan who I doubt would want to be a junior senator instead of what he is today.

Interesting - if Feingold would run and win, would he start on the bottom in terms of seniority in the US Senate, or would he basically pick up where he left off?? Not sure what the rules on this are. I don't remember a US Senator getting thrown out of office and 2 years later being back in before....

 

[Trench]

Trench:

Did Wisconsinites resoundly reject Feingold and his liberal ways just 18 months ago?

It clearly wasn't a vote FOR Johnson - it was, however, a clear vote AGAINST Feingold.

The people spoke clearly 18 months ago. Feingold is a liberal nutjob.

You live in your own little Fox News world, dontcha Mags?

Let's look at the 2010 mid-term election numbers:

- Johnson received 1.1 million votes.

- Feingold received 1.0 million votes.

Walker's lies, threats, cronyism, union-busting tactics, violations of the open meetings laws, and his outright assault on the middle-class in Wisconsin have swayed a lot more than the (approx.) 50,000 votes that it would take to reverse the outcome of the mid-term election.

If Feingold decides to run in 2012, I guarantee he wins the Senate seat.

 

[Mags]

Walker's lies, threats, cronyism, union-busting tactics, violations of the open meetings laws, and his outright assault on the middle-class in Wisconsin have swayed a lot more than the (approx.) 50,000 votes that it would take to reverse the outcome of the mid-term election.

See, that is where you are wrong. Walker is protecting the middle class, and the rest of us, from unreasonable costs in the public sector by eliminating the bullying by unions.

Face it, public unions are a special interest, affecting a small portion of Wisconsinites. The majority of us are sick of paying too much for government services. He is protecting us, and helping the business climate, in Wisconsin.

Those of us who work for a living and those of us that don't say "well if you want me to work overtime, pay me time and a half" are very happy for what Walker is doing.

The public unions are nothing more than a special interest bullying faction. It is time that they are brought back to the same level and conditions the rest of us work under. No more special priveledges due to electing your boss.

On Wisconsin!

 

[bleedingpurple]

See, that is where you are wrong. Walker is protecting the middle class, and the rest of us, from unreasonable costs in the public sector by eliminating the bullying by unions.

Face it, public unions are a special interest, affecting a small portion of Wisconsinites. The majority of us are sick of paying too much for government services. He is protecting us, and helping the business climate, in Wisconsin.

Those of us who work for a living and those of us that don't say "well if you want me to work overtime, pay me time and a half" are very happy for what Walker is doing.

The public unions are nothing more than a special interest bullying faction. It is time that they are brought back to the same level and conditions the rest of us work under. No more special priveledges due to electing your boss.

On Wisconsin!

you are against time and a half for OT? :facepalm:

 

[Mags]

you are against time and a half for OT? :facepalm:

BP - salaried workers in the private (professional) sector are expected to work 45-60 hours a week and do not get paid overtime. In fact, many private sector companies, when hiring, will look poorly on government employees, due to the differences in work ethic and the fact the government employees feel entitled. The demonstrations in WI made that pretty clear "you are taking away my rights - I'm entitled!".

I know I never hired one, because I didn't want an employee watching the clock, and leaving at 4:00 each day because that was "all they were required to work".

 

[Trench]

BP - salaried workers in the private (professional) sector are expected to work 45-60 hours a week and do not get paid overtime.

You're being obtuse again, Mags. The vast majority of private sector workers are NOT salaried and DO receive overtime pay.

You can try to marginalize public sector workers all you want but the numbers don't lie. There are over 300,000 public sector workers in Wisconsin and the average family size in the U.S. is 3.14. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that's almost 1 million residents in Wisconsin directly affected by Walker's assault on the middle-class. Walker's day of reckoning is coming.

 

[Duff Miver]

BP - salaried workers in the private (professional) sector are expected to work 45-60 hours a week

Those numbers are pure BS that you pulled out of your hat.

The average salaried worker puts in about 43 hours per week.

 

[Duff Miver]

Walker's day of reckoning is coming.

This guy has friends.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

you are against time and a half for OT? :facepalm:

It's a disgrace to even read his fucking posts. Corporate whore.

 

[Mags]

You're being obtuse again, Mags. The vast majority of private sector workers are NOT salaried and DO receive overtime pay.

You can try to marginalize public sector workers all you want but the numbers don't lie. There are over 300,000 public sector workers in Wisconsin and the average family size in the U.S. is 3.14. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that's almost 1 million residents in Wisconsin directly affected by Walker's assault on the middle-class. Walker's day of reckoning is coming.

By not overpaying government workers, he IS protecting the middle class.

We are giving away taxpayer money to special interests (public labor unions). It is gutwrenching, and hurting the middle class in WI and nationally.

The best part of what Walker's doing - it has made everyone in WI take a hard look at the corruption in government, the high salaries and benefits in the government sector.

Let's hope the special interests in WI do not win - and the taxpayer does.

 

[Mags]

Those numbers are pure BS that you pulled out of your hat.

The average salaried worker puts in about 43 hours per week.

And the average government worker shows up for their job 37.5 hours a week, but actually only works 20 of those hours.

What's your point?

 

[Trench]

The best part of what Walker's doing - it has made everyone in WI take a hard look at the corruption in government.

It has certainly done that. I suspect in the future the citizens of Wisconsin will be very wary of electing politicians whose campaign coffers are stuffed with $Millions from ruthless corporatists like the Koch Bros.

 

[Duff Miver]

And the average government worker shows up for their job 37.5 hours a week, but actually only works 20 of those hours.

What's your point?

What's my point? Here's my point, you lying sack-o-shit -

You claim that private sector salaried employees work 45-60 hours per week.

That's a bald-faced lie.

 

[bleedingpurple]

See, that is where you are wrong. Walker is protecting the middle class, and the rest of us, from unreasonable costs in the public sector by eliminating the bullying by unions.

Face it, public unions are a special interest, affecting a small portion of Wisconsinites. The majority of us are sick of paying too much for government services. He is protecting us, and helping the business climate, in Wisconsin.

Those of us who work for a living and those of us that don't say "well if you want me to work overtime, pay me time and a half" are very happy for what Walker is doing.

The public unions are nothing more than a special interest bullying faction. It is time that they are brought back to the same level and conditions the rest of us work under. No more special priveledges due to electing your boss.

On Wisconsin!

I don't think we will ever agree and that is fine. Walker is protecting the middle class? Because of Unions? He just lined his friends pockets. His sponsors. That money he takes from the unions isn't helping anybody but the Kochs and the like.

I think it is amazing how easy the Walker errr I mean the Kochs can easily fool you guys. We will just have to disagree but I am still going to see what happens and if everything works out and Walker does fine then I will be the first to admit I am wrong, I just hope that if this does backfire and nothing changes that you can admit the same.

 

[bleedingpurple]

BP - salaried workers in the private (professional) sector are expected to work 45-60 hours a week and do not get paid overtime. In fact, many private sector companies, when hiring, will look poorly on government employees, due to the differences in work ethic and the fact the government employees feel entitled. The demonstrations in WI made that pretty clear "you are taking away my rights - I'm entitled!".

Man, you think salaried employees are expected to work 60 hour weeks. I would like to know these salaries?

People demonstrating because rights were taken away is bad. Boy I hope you aren't pist off at the colonists for having the real "tea party" for their demonstration. I have worked union and non union jobs. Take away non union people's rights away and they begin to look for other jobs.

Entitled? Maybe a bit strong but you would not want someone telling you your pay is going to go down and you can't even them about it because it is tough shit.

 

[bleedingpurple]

I know I never hired one, because I didn't want an employee watching the clock, and leaving at 4:00 each day because that was "all they were required to work".

:facepalm:
This is where I lose all respect for you in theory. What about equal opportunity?:shrug: This is just a stereo typical bunch of bullshit. If you think all government employees are lazy then what do you think about other kinds of people?