Most truthful post I have ever read on this site???
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Gibber and Fletcher
I am sorry if I came across like this. When I said these tactics and money mgmt dont seem to be working this year...................I was referring to KC's record at his site............I already praised your foots record this year. I have to say I have'nt really seen a record so good in like 20 yrs.............like 64%.............In fact the gold sheet used to run a promo they would pay anyone 100,000 or something like that if they could hit over 60% for a total of 100 plays as long as you were willing to match the pot.......They had no takers... ever......so what you were able to accomplish was unreal.
Fletcher........I am sorry about the record remark. I wasnt talking about guys like you, KC and Raymond..............I was referring to guys like Phil Steele, Joe Gavazzi, Marc Lawrence etc............they only seem to let you know how they are doing when they are winning.
I am sorry if I came across like this. When I said these tactics and money mgmt dont seem to be working this year...................I was referring to KC's record at his site............I already praised your foots record this year. I have to say I have'nt really seen a record so good in like 20 yrs.............like 64%.............In fact the gold sheet used to run a promo they would pay anyone 100,000 or something like that if they could hit over 60% for a total of 100 plays as long as you were willing to match the pot.......They had no takers... ever......so what you were able to accomplish was unreal.
Fletcher........I am sorry about the record remark. I wasnt talking about guys like you, KC and Raymond..............I was referring to guys like Phil Steele, Joe Gavazzi, Marc Lawrence etc............they only seem to let you know how they are doing when they are winning.
those guys and any of them that say they hit 70% are full of it i lost in ncaafb for the first time in 6 years bowls which the last 2 years only had 7 total losses did not even have 6 wins nfl did ok but over i through out the year i hit around the 58% mark snd that does well.
there is a show out here i listen to just to laugh with 3 guys that is a national show where they say if you have a 1000 for the week end we will show you how to make it into 20,000 well that i would like to see. it is none of my business what my clients use as a unit but how many units played. the biggest i have is a 5* which is 1.5 units and a few times a month a 10* 3 unit play. but could not turn 1000 into 20,000 in 1 weekend or a week because i don't post that many games to do that it's all money management and you are going to have weeks when you lose and weeks when you win they key is to how you handle the management on the bad weeks 3 weeks ago durning super bowl week i was bad first time in a long time for being flat out poor and the biggest part was money management on a week that would of been hard to win with. so there is no magic ball ,games of the month games of the year locks and so on those are sales bs and i don't do that iknow people who do and they hit them but i choose to run mine different and i look long term and it has worked for me over the years but like i said before starting out i went broke 2 times and had to ask for money from parents a long time ago and it sucks and its not the life of the stars you have to always be around the phone ,book or pc. i choose to do it because i do pay the bills with it and have more left then coaching and teaching or then working as a ot but it is a stressful life on anyone who choose to go this way and a service is just as hard and more stress if you have any feelings for others which i do and some don't but your investing other's monies and you want to make them extra IF THEY LISTEN. but 1 week or 2 does not and should not make or break you but yet some it does and they are the ones who have failed to see you must manage your money. like i said i make mistakes every so often and still learn from them. but there is not magic ball and a 70% though-out the year if there is i want to shake their hand.
there is a show out here i listen to just to laugh with 3 guys that is a national show where they say if you have a 1000 for the week end we will show you how to make it into 20,000 well that i would like to see. it is none of my business what my clients use as a unit but how many units played. the biggest i have is a 5* which is 1.5 units and a few times a month a 10* 3 unit play. but could not turn 1000 into 20,000 in 1 weekend or a week because i don't post that many games to do that it's all money management and you are going to have weeks when you lose and weeks when you win they key is to how you handle the management on the bad weeks 3 weeks ago durning super bowl week i was bad first time in a long time for being flat out poor and the biggest part was money management on a week that would of been hard to win with. so there is no magic ball ,games of the month games of the year locks and so on those are sales bs and i don't do that iknow people who do and they hit them but i choose to run mine different and i look long term and it has worked for me over the years but like i said before starting out i went broke 2 times and had to ask for money from parents a long time ago and it sucks and its not the life of the stars you have to always be around the phone ,book or pc. i choose to do it because i do pay the bills with it and have more left then coaching and teaching or then working as a ot but it is a stressful life on anyone who choose to go this way and a service is just as hard and more stress if you have any feelings for others which i do and some don't but your investing other's monies and you want to make them extra IF THEY LISTEN. but 1 week or 2 does not and should not make or break you but yet some it does and they are the ones who have failed to see you must manage your money. like i said i make mistakes every so often and still learn from them. but there is not magic ball and a 70% though-out the year if there is i want to shake their hand.
Fletcher,
I was 68% 2 years ago in college football will that get me a hand shake?....
Anyway one thing I would like to add is I love to see threads like this that are civil and there is no bashing involved... Thats what these boards are for exchanging different ideas and thoughts on the industry. Pay services sportsbooks what have ya. Its nice to see, wish we would see more of this.:thefinger
I was 68% 2 years ago in college football will that get me a hand shake?....
Anyway one thing I would like to add is I love to see threads like this that are civil and there is no bashing involved... Thats what these boards are for exchanging different ideas and thoughts on the industry. Pay services sportsbooks what have ya. Its nice to see, wish we would see more of this.:thefingeryes i remember that chris because you would email me hot ones from the island i ment over a whole year like some of the so called big boys in the service world say they do well after being at tsm for a year of fb i saw who they could claim that and how the scamm is pulled say i will give 1 r**t had 5-8 different clubs yes 1 might of hit 70% in fb with only 12 plays but the other 5-7 were anyware from 33.5% to 52% and steal as i like to call them is under 7 or 8 names it ws a joke and what makes all look bad but they are the million$ men i choose not to be like that sure would love to be a million$ marketer but i would much reather be able to awake each day and look at myself in the mirrow and know i tried my best to win with everyone having the same plays.
i ment over a whole year like some of the so called big boys in the service world say they do well after being at tsm for a year of fb i saw who they could claim that and how the scamm is pulled say i will give 1 r**t had 5-8 different clubs yes 1 might of hit 70% in fb with only 12 plays but the other 5-7 were anyware from 33.5% to 52% and steal as i like to call them is under 7 or 8 names it ws a joke and what makes all look bad but they are the million$ men i choose not to be like that sure would love to be a million$ marketer but i would much reather be able to awake each day and look at myself in the mirrow and know i tried my best to win with everyone having the same plays.
Well I hope and I think this is the case. Most folks here know that we are far from million Dollar marketers... LOL.... but we do work are ass off to try to get winners on a consistent basis. I know it has been a learning processes for all of us involved..... One of these days I want to be a marketing god like Pinnacle. I am just waiting to walk outside some day and see a plane flying around with there trademark...... These folks are everywhere. LOL
hell if we or at least i know myself could spend 1 million on marketing would not handicapp or have service,i will go simple high yeild cd's 6 month turn overs, t-bonds like i do now my life is a risk so my ira need to stay safe and pay the bills and do what i do now. go to fl play golf sit on ass out here watching tv,work out ,do my duties as a husband once a week if i want to or not :shrug: and slap the little smokie 4 times a week for stress tues & thur and twice on sat
Betting on sports or anything takes lady luck to flow your way.The thing is to win at it takes money managment.
Yes you can have a bad streak but if you manage your bank you can come out on top.
Also there are times that it is best to step away.If you dont feel that you can win and you let that enter in your decisions of capping you will lose.So if you beging to feel you are going to loose before you bet,than it might be time for a break.
Yes you can have a bad streak but if you manage your bank you can come out on top.
Also there are times that it is best to step away.If you dont feel that you can win and you let that enter in your decisions of capping you will lose.So if you beging to feel you are going to loose before you bet,than it might be time for a break.
and slap the little smokie 4 times a week for stress tues & thur and twice on sat
Fletch,
Very funny
Fletch,
Very funny
I always felt if I could in at least three sports pick winners with a wining %. I would not want to sell them and bring more work to myself then needed. Nor would I want the stress to have to perduce for others then myself. I do believe that can get folks to second guessing. I agree with Fletcher units of 3 or less makes total sence. A bunch of catchy names dont make the play any better either. In fact most cases the catchy names are the ones that take folks to the poor house. I also have learned at this site some of the lesser sports seem to have more winners.
Always remember the stockmarket is the only legal betting acrosse the country. They say if you go there you will win over the long haul. Im sure right now many folks think thats all BS. But remember there talking long haul. Lets face the truth. Lots of folks do sports for the short term excitment. They will get lucky. Then stay around to long because there carefree and dont give a crap. Long term is not in there thoughts because it takes the fun out of it for them.
Always remember the stockmarket is the only legal betting acrosse the country. They say if you go there you will win over the long haul. Im sure right now many folks think thats all BS. But remember there talking long haul. Lets face the truth. Lots of folks do sports for the short term excitment. They will get lucky. Then stay around to long because there carefree and dont give a crap. Long term is not in there thoughts because it takes the fun out of it for them.
Djv you sound like my cpa/broker she is all over me because i have a roth , cd's that i go from 6months to 2 years and t-bonds.
She said the same with what i have in cd's and the t-bonds is enough start expainding 35% of what i put in to high risk and med risk at low price now because at 40 by the time i wait it out its going to come back but like i said i like safe but my dad is also all over me saying i have to much in them already to do what i want use some to take a chance because i am limiting my income earnings off of my envestments. safe is good but you should not cut yourself out at my age of some high growth funds. going to listen to them a little more and try i think it makes senses i can buy low right now and i am looking long term i have 25 years to ride it they both said. now you say the same maybe have to listen some to my elders on this one
She said the same with what i have in cd's and the t-bonds is enough start expainding 35% of what i put in to high risk and med risk at low price now because at 40 by the time i wait it out its going to come back but like i said i like safe but my dad is also all over me saying i have to much in them already to do what i want use some to take a chance because i am limiting my income earnings off of my envestments. safe is good but you should not cut yourself out at my age of some high growth funds. going to listen to them a little more and try i think it makes senses i can buy low right now and i am looking long term i have 25 years to ride it they both said. now you say the same maybe have to listen some to my elders on this one
I think investments have everything to do with your age. My dad just passed away and my sister and I have been looking over their finances. I almost had a stroke when I saw that they had a few hundred thousand dollars in CD's earning less than 2% interest! But when I thought about it, I realized that at 83, my mother certainly has no reason to risk any of her capital. She has more than enough to live on. My wife, however, is 30 years old. Her 401k is split among several areas including a small portion in higher risk areas.
There once was a rule take your age minus 100. It goes like this. If 80 you would still have 20% of your investments in stocks. It also said 5% would be in high risk.
Fletcher you listen to your family. I will back them. I started at 38 and many said thats to late. I had done alittle before 38 but not much and was in cd's and some US saving bonds. A smart person told be get your butt at least into 60 or 70% stock. Of that amount make sure 25% is high risk. Pointed me to some very good mutual funds. I would never had retired this year at age 60 if I had not made that move. And funny thing was becasue I was getting older. I had started to back off high risk and lower my stock amount useing the 100 minus my age. So when this huge down turn hit I did not take it in the shorts real bad. Yes Im down over all around 11%. I have friends that did not follow the formula and there down 40%. So I know it works. Right now is such agood time to get in and ride this thing back up. Im still buying some in a 500 index fund. It is cheap and I expect to see 20% over next two years. Long haul folks. Just like the sports plays must understand you dont win everyday or every year. But you must have aplan and stick with it. I know over more then 35 years I feal I lost playing sports around 500 bucks a year. But I tell you what most came the first 10 to 15 years of learning and getting smarter. And you tell me who here that is haveing lots of fun, and can say there hobby cost them 500 bucks a year. For the profresional that wont work I understand that. But for the young and old crowd, the I dont give a chit folks. 500 bucks a year is dam cheap. We all know there are many here that drop more then 500 a year. But they all dont care.
Fletcher you listen to your family. I will back them. I started at 38 and many said thats to late. I had done alittle before 38 but not much and was in cd's and some US saving bonds. A smart person told be get your butt at least into 60 or 70% stock. Of that amount make sure 25% is high risk. Pointed me to some very good mutual funds. I would never had retired this year at age 60 if I had not made that move. And funny thing was becasue I was getting older. I had started to back off high risk and lower my stock amount useing the 100 minus my age. So when this huge down turn hit I did not take it in the shorts real bad. Yes Im down over all around 11%. I have friends that did not follow the formula and there down 40%. So I know it works. Right now is such agood time to get in and ride this thing back up. Im still buying some in a 500 index fund. It is cheap and I expect to see 20% over next two years. Long haul folks. Just like the sports plays must understand you dont win everyday or every year. But you must have aplan and stick with it. I know over more then 35 years I feal I lost playing sports around 500 bucks a year. But I tell you what most came the first 10 to 15 years of learning and getting smarter. And you tell me who here that is haveing lots of fun, and can say there hobby cost them 500 bucks a year. For the profresional that wont work I understand that. But for the young and old crowd, the I dont give a chit folks. 500 bucks a year is dam cheap. We all know there are many here that drop more then 500 a year. But they all dont care.
Amen djv. I have most of my nest egg diversified and am not nearly as down as friends who tried to make a killing. Now they are just holding on waiting for a brief surge to get out and soften their losses. I too started in a little late. i.e., 36 years old.
Currently I $ cost average in a 500 index fund because it has the lowest mgt fee and although I won't beat the market- I won't be left behind either.
Currently I $ cost average in a 500 index fund because it has the lowest mgt fee and although I won't beat the market- I won't be left behind either.
Don't remember where I read it but when I started this little endeavor I read :you will learn more about yourself doing this than you can ever imagine.That,my friends has to be the grosses understatment of all time.That is a lock.
Like Fletcher stated,I think one has to go bust right at two times,then you say to your self,self do I really want to do this.Does this make me jump out of bed in the morning ready to kick off in some books ass?After an ass kickin can you get up and do it again.
Look at it like this if you want to do it for fun,major league team owners pay millions for teams that can go out there and play like chit,we only have to buy them for a few hours at a time.Funny thing is we stand to make as much money on their teams as they do.
Have to admit though that it can be real hard to get up after getting strumed after about two weeks of every imaginable loss after loss.Sharing our battle scares can only be understude by fellow sports bettors.
My best single day that was posted was in Tigers tread 06-24-2001 Saturday's Top MJQ'S
Houston Gambler........11.43...Are you kidding me?????INCREDIBLE DAY!!!!
KCWOLF.......4.40...Another solid wolf card!
Damn,was that over two years ago?
BTW Tigers bases forum were for one unit each play.
Guess the thing that keeps me going is,being a tennis player for life I can equate this to tennis.After ass kicken after ass kicken you either quit playing or you get pissed off enough to find a way to win.In a 128 man draw only one is going to win.About the same odds as winning long haul in sports betting,1%.
May yall be succesfull in whatever you do.
Like Fletcher stated,I think one has to go bust right at two times,then you say to your self,self do I really want to do this.Does this make me jump out of bed in the morning ready to kick off in some books ass?After an ass kickin can you get up and do it again.
Look at it like this if you want to do it for fun,major league team owners pay millions for teams that can go out there and play like chit,we only have to buy them for a few hours at a time.Funny thing is we stand to make as much money on their teams as they do.
Have to admit though that it can be real hard to get up after getting strumed after about two weeks of every imaginable loss after loss.Sharing our battle scares can only be understude by fellow sports bettors.
My best single day that was posted was in Tigers tread 06-24-2001 Saturday's Top MJQ'S
Houston Gambler........11.43...Are you kidding me?????INCREDIBLE DAY!!!!
KCWOLF.......4.40...Another solid wolf card!
Damn,was that over two years ago?
BTW Tigers bases forum were for one unit each play.
Guess the thing that keeps me going is,being a tennis player for life I can equate this to tennis.After ass kicken after ass kicken you either quit playing or you get pissed off enough to find a way to win.In a 128 man draw only one is going to win.About the same odds as winning long haul in sports betting,1%.
May yall be succesfull in whatever you do.
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