Mr & Mrs C

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Appears Bill thinks he's still in office and his primary agenda hasn't changed--"what terrorism" and guess whos footing the bill on these 10 car motorcades--

and Hilliary--more Arkansas Alzeimers--ie selective memory.

The star player at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland this weekend was not Bill Gates, Brad Pitt or John Kerry. It was Bill Clinton, who arrived in a 10-car motorcade, and delivered his remarks to a packed house. The former president addressed what he called the three greatest challenges facing the world today, but terrorism didn't make the list. Instead, Clinton called climate change the world's biggest threat, followed by "global inequality."

Clinton mentioned terrorism only as a manifestation of his third biggest challenge: the world's "apparently irreconcilable cultural and religious" divides.

Hillary and Health Care

New York Senator Hillary Clinton blasted Wal-Mart last week for failing to spend enough on health care for its employees. But Clinton could not say whether she advised the company to expand benefits when she sat on its board of directors from 1986 to 1992, saying, "that was a long time ago, I have to remember." A staffer told reporters that Wal-Mart is "a very different company now," a claim backed up by the Wall Street Journal, which notes that Wal-Mart offers more extensive and generous health benefits than when Clinton served on the board.

 

[Heyward]

As for Bill, my guess would be that he was invited to speak at this event, and that the motorcade was financed by the hosts, although the U.S. certainly paid the expenses for his Secret Service detail, which is no different from Reagan, Nixon, etc. It always amazes me how people on the right just cannot get over Clinton, and work themselves into a lather over his every word. Let it go, man. Let it go. You don't hear Democrats ranting and raving about Nixon all the time.

As for Hillary, that's pretty bad. She needs to be real careful about doing her homework before raising hell with somebody. Makes her look foolish.

 

[kosar]

It always amazes me how people on the right just cannot get over Clinton, and work themselves into a lather over his every word. Let it go, man. Let it go.

It's really quite comical actually, in an annoying sort of way.

 

[djv]

Hillarys comments not to far off. When Sam was still alive and running things Wall Mart was much different. You could even find products made in USA. Anyway board members are for photo opts for many companies. But im still not a big fan of Hers.
Her old man dead on about what makes terror. Religion divides.

 

[Nosigar]

It's really quite comical actually, in an annoying sort of way.

Well, if Billy would just stick to business instead of campaigning for the old lady using the old populism approach, we'd hear less about him, huh?

Her old man dead on about what makes terror. Religion divides.

I thought about this one for several minutes and finally understood what it meant.

Yes, djv, it's religion which is the root of all evil. We should not not judge anyone, attempt to improve ourselves nor be concerned with anything else except mundanely living out existence.
And we definitely gotta keep an eye out for those molotov factories the Mormons and Baptists got going. It's getting insane.

 

[kosar]

Well, if Billy would just stick to business instead of campaigning for the old lady using the old populism approach, we'd hear less about him, huh?

Ya figure that's what he's doing, campaigning for his old lady?

I'd say he's not helping the cause by saying that 'climate change' is the worlds greatest threat.

People just can't stop talking about him though.

Hey, if I bring up Bush 43 in every other post 5 years after he's out of office, please shoot me.

 

[dawgball]

Cocked and loaded, so you better watch out you SOB!

 

[kosar]

I ain't worried, Dawg. In 2013, Dubya will just be an unpleasant distant memory and hopefully by then we will have recovered from these 8 years. I don't plan on harping endlessly about him after he's out of office.

 

[Nosigar]

Ya figure that's what he's doing, campaigning for his old lady?

I'd say he's not helping the cause by saying that 'climate change' is the worlds greatest threat.

People just can't stop talking about him though.

Hey, if I bring up Bush 43 in every other post 5 years after he's out of office, please shoot me.

I don't know, it can get pretty warm here, you know. And all those damn hurricoons... Maybe it's the jihadists cooking up some chit in the stratosphere (kinda sounding like our incoherent friend djv now).

If you don't think he's campaiging for the old lady, then he's campaiginig for himself? He can do whatever he likes, and his name can be brought up as many times as he goes out and says shit. BUT when he starts using that 3rd world populism crap, where the "global inequality" is a problem, giving no solution (perhaps hinting that the U.S. should dish out more dough to corrupt little meager dictator-controlled territories to appease the public opinion of the world liberals), that's when I say my say.

Did I infer more than what Billy's words than he said? Yep, maybe. But it is nothing new. He is the champion of the downtrodden, just look how much the world has advanced since he set forth the wheels of global improvement.

BTW, was anybody except the global press and the NEW YORK TIMES (smurph) interested at all in that summit?

Oh, and i doubt Bush 43 will be out talking much after he's left office. Don't think talking is his strenth :lol: . But if you do mention him that often, I'll :hitwithro , at your request only, of course.

 

[Chadman]

I'm sure there will be PLENTY of very wealthy Americans that will speak of George very fondly, LONG after he is gone. These will have definitely been the days, baby. And many more speaking highly of Dick Cheney.

 

[Nosigar]

I'm sure there will be PLENTY of very wealthy Americans that will speak of George very fondly, LONG after he is gone. These will have definitely been the days, baby. And many more speaking highly of Dick Cheney.

It's not fair, man :142squint

 

[kosar]

If you don't think he's campaiging for the old lady, then he's campaiginig for himself?

I don't know what the hell he's doing, but those sort of comments do not help her one bit. That's the sort of thing she's trying to move away from.

 

[Heyward]

I don't know what the hell he's doing, but those sort of comments do not help her one bit. That's the sort of thing she's trying to move away from.

I don't know what the hell he's doing either, but I don't get the impression he's campaigning for his wife. My gut instinct is that he just really likes being in the public eye (although I agree that this event was not something anybody paid attention to). I don't have any real beef with the guy (lousy husband, but that's Hilary's problem), but my guess is that he really likes the attention.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

How does one who never had earned income of over $36,000 become a millionaire in eight years--politics.
Do nothing-lie-stuff cigars up interns-pardon fellons for cash-rent out whitehouse--get disbarred-impeached and convicted ofmultiple felons while in office--
and then----write book about it--tour country and give speeches all paid for by the those that can still indenify with him.

Don't know what GW legacy will be but one thing certain bills is etched in stone. The least offensive one on his legacy that leaves out the moral intretitudes by my fav reporter Charles Krauthammer-------

WASHINGTON -- Since 1960 we have had only two politically successful presidents -- reaffirmed and re-elected, dominating their decades: Reagan and Clinton. (Except for Kennedy, whose presidency was cut short, the others -- Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter and Bush 41-- were repudiated.) Clinton's autobiography, appearing as it does in such close conjunction to the national remembrance of Reagan, invites the inevitable comparison.

The contrast is obvious. Reagan was the hedgehog who knew -- and did -- a few very large things: fighting and winning the Cold War, reviving the economy and beginning a fundamental restructuring of the welfare state.

Clinton was the fox. He knew -- and accomplished -- small things. His autobiography is a perfect reflection of that -- a wild mish-mash of remembrance, anecdote, appointment calendar and political payback. The themeless pudding of a million small things is just what you would expect from a president who once gave a Saturday radio address on school uniforms.

Small, but not always unimportant. Clinton did conclude NAFTA and did sign welfare reform. His greatest achievement was an act of brilliant passivity -- he got out of the way of one of the largest peacetime economic expansions in American history. And though he takes personal credit for all the jobs created -- a ridiculous assertion to make about the decade of Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates -- he does deserve credit for not screwing things up. Presidents often do. He easily could have.

His great failing was foreign policy. Viewing the world through the narrow legalist lens of liberal internationalism, he spent most of his presidency drafting and signing treaty after useless treaty on such things as biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. All this in a world where the biggest problem comes from terrorists and rogue states for whom treaties are meaningless.

Like the 1920s, the '90s were a golden age permeated by a postwar euphoria of apparently endless peace and prosperity. Both decades ended abruptly, undermined ultimately by threats that were ignored as they grew and burrowed underground. Clinton let a decade of unprecedented American prosperity and power go without doing anything about al Qaeda, Afghanistan or Iraq (where his weakness allowed France and Russia to almost totally undermine the post-Gulf War sanctions). And although al Qaeda declared war on America in 1996 and, as we now know, hatched the Sept. 11 plot that same year, it continued to flourish throughout the decade.

Looking the other way was largely a function of the age -- our holiday from history, our retreat from seriousness, our Seinfeld decade of obsessive ordinariness. Clinton never could have been elected during the Cold War. In the 1990s, history produced the president perfectly suited to the time -- a time of domesticity, triviality and self-absorption.

Its essence is captured perfectly, and inadvertently, in one sentence, Clinton's own account of his response to al Qaeda's most spectacular and murderous pre-Sept. 11 outrage -- the African embassy bombings of Aug. 7, 1998. Ten days afterward, Clinton made his televised confession of having lied to the nation for seven months about the Monica affair. He then retired to a chilly vacation on Martha's Vineyard with wife and daughter. Two days later, he emerged by helicopter on the White House lawn, gave a snappy salute, and marched into the Oval Office to announce the bombing of an al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan and a chemical factory in Sudan.

Clinton writes: ``I spent the first couple of days (after the national television confession) alternating between begging for forgiveness (from Hillary) and planning the strikes on al Qaeda.''

Or as he told Oprah just this week, ``I'm bombing Osama bin Laden's training camp and sleeping on the couch. It was a strange time.''

That produced a strange man. His associates called this compartmentalization. I call it trivialization.

One is inevitably reminded of the quite unbelievable image of the president of the United States on the phone with a congressman discussing Bosnia while being simultaneously serviced by Monica Lewinsky.

What was always staggering to me about this scene was not what it says about Clinton's sexual practices -- I couldn't care less one way or another -- but about his unseriousness.

I never hated Clinton. On the contrary, I often expressed admiration for his charm and for the roguish cynicism that allowed him to navigate so many crises. Nor was I scandalized by his escapades. What appalled me then, a feeling that returns as Clinton has gone national revisiting his own presidency, is the smallness of a man who granted equal valence to his own indulgences on the one hand and to the fate of nations on the other. It is the smallness that disturbs. It is that smallness that history will remember.

Charles Krauthammer is a 1987 Pulitzer Prize winner, 1984 National Magazine Award winner, and a columnist for The Washington Post since 1985.

 

[kosar]

Don't Fret About Global Warming
by Charley Reese


Global warming means it will get hotter or colder, drier or wetter, stormier or calmer. One of the people at a recent conference on global warming made just such an asinine statement. Talk about covering your bases ? if we have weather, it's because of global warming.

About the only fact in this global-warming brouhaha is that the planet has warmed up about 1 degree in the past century. Keep in mind that in the past the planet has gotten much warmer and much colder during times when humans were too few to make any difference. So-called greenhouse gases are not the only factor that can cause Earth to warm or cool. Volcanic eruptions can put enough particulate matter into the atmosphere to cause a cooling, and there are variations in the radiation from the sun.

Carbon dioxide is a natural component of the atmosphere. Animals breathe it out and plants "breathe" it in, a good example of a partnership, because while our respiration produces carbon dioxide, the photosynthesis of the plants absorbs carbon dioxide and produces oxygen, which we need.

The fact that there is carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in our atmosphere makes our planet livable. If they were absent, then at night the earth would lose all of its heat and temperatures would plummet. So some greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are good and necessary.

The global-warming dispute has arisen over the question of how much is good and how much is bad. Frankly, scientists don't know. All of the projected stuff you hear is based on computer models of the atmosphere, and the atmosphere is far too complex, with too many variables, to be reduced accurately to a computer spreadsheet. What you really have are the computers making guesses and the scientists making guesses based on the computers' guesses. And don't forget GIGO. Computers are not intelligent and cannot think. Garbage in, garbage out.

Be skeptical, too, when you read that some scientist studying an ice core can tell you what the planet's weather was 600,000 years ago. He is projecting beyond his evidence. His ice core can only tell him what was going on in that particular, small spot.

There are currently about 330 parts per million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. You might think of it as having $330 compared with $1 million. It doesn't seem to me like enough to cause trouble, but I'm no scientist, and even the scientists are in disagreement.

The unfortunate thing is that global warming ? which is, after all, a theory ? has taken on, like evolution, the characteristics of religious dogma. The true believers cast the doubters as heretics to be scoffed at and scorned. The nonbelievers suggest the believers are na?ve, misguided or venal (after grants that only go to believers in global warming).

I personally don't care one way or the other. If the planet wants to get warmer, it's OK with me. It's OK with me, though slightly less OK, if the planet wants to get colder. As for hurricanes, droughts, floods, blizzards and such stuff, we have all that anyway, always have had them and presumably always will. As for projected catastrophes 100 years out based on guesses that are based on guesses, I couldn't care less.

My street smarts, which are the only kind I have, tell me that no one can predict next year, much less 100 years into the future. Sometimes meteorologists with all of their satellites cannot even accurately predict the weather for two days out.

I'm not worried about industrial production because the oil will run out and the industrial machine will slow down considerably. Of all the things a person can worry about, global warming should be close to the 100 mark on his list. And don't forget, of course, that regardless of climate change, we are all mortal and will eventually go to another place whether in rain or shine, heat or cold. God was good to us. He did not give us the job of saving or preserving the universe. Smart God. Most people have all they can handle dealing with their family and their own yard.






December 31, 2005

Charley Reese [send him mail] has been a journalist for 49 years.

? 2005 by King Features Syndicate, Inc.

Charley

 

[kosar]

One is inevitably reminded of the quite unbelievable image of the president of the United States on the phone with a congressman discussing Bosnia while being simultaneously serviced by Monica Lewinsky.

That's nothing. A few years back all the stars aligned and I was drunk, had a dip in, was on the phone with by best friend, getting blown by my girlfriend, watching the NBA draft all at the same time. It was the perfect storm, my friends. The perfect storm.


:tmi:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Amen brother--quite an enviable position :toast:

 

[Heyward]

...and convicted of multiple felons while in office--

I'm not the expert on Bill Clinton that you are. Could you list all of the felonies that Clinton was convicted of? Thanks.

 

[smurphy]

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...OK, got it out of my system. You try Dogs - it works, man. I feel better and I'm ready to move on in to the year 2006.

....wait a minute, coming back up again-

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...ok ...no...oh si-

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That's it! definitely. Wow. Thank you toilet bowl, thank you for being cool on the side. Wow. New person. You really should just jam your fingers down your throat and get it over with, DTB. :mj05:

 

[Nosigar]

That's nothing. A few years back all the stars aligned and I was drunk, had a dip in, was on the phone with by best friend, getting blown by my girlfriend, watching the NBA draft all at the same time. It was the perfect storm, my friends. The perfect storm.


:tmi:

:shocked:

Green with envy :cursin: , 'cept would be NFL draft ... ... or .... who cares....

BTW, excellent Krauthammer article, DTB. Says exactly what I've wanted to say about Bill but never knew how to. Right on the money.