msnbc's reporter interviewed by iraqi tv

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This guy is a joke & is feeding into saddam's propaganda machine.Wonder what he thinks happened to the journalists who disappeared.I think that there will be a alot of outrage tommorrow about this interview & NBC is making a big mistake by not firing him.

Sunday, March 30, 2003

NEW YORK ? Journalist Peter Arnett, covering the war from Baghdad, told state-run Iraqi TV in an interview aired Sunday that the American-led coalition's first war plan had failed because of Iraq's resistance and said strategists are "trying to write another war plan."

Arnett, who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for The Associated Press, garnered much of his prominence from covering the 1991 Gulf War for CNN. He is reporting from the Iraqi capital now for NBC and its cable stations.

The interview could make Arnett a target of the war's supporters. The first Bush administration was unhappy with Arnett's reporting in 1991 for CNN, suggesting he had become a conveyor of propaganda.

He was denounced for his reporting about an allied bombing of a baby milk factory in Baghdad that the military said was a biological weapons plant. The American military responded vigorously to the suggestion it had targeted a civilian facility, but Arnett stood by his reporting that the plant's sole purpose was to make baby formula.

NBC, in a statement Sunday, praised Arnett's "outstanding" reporting from Iraq and said he was trying nothing more than to give an analytical response to an interviewer's questions.

In the interview, Arnett said his Iraqi friends tell him there is a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain are doing.

He said the United States is reappraising the battlefield and delaying the war, maybe for a week, "and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan."

"Clearly, the American war plans misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," Arnett said during the interview broadcast by Iraq's satellite television station and monitored by The Associated Press in Egypt.

Arnett said it is clear that within the United States there is growing opposition to the war and a growing challenge to President Bush about the war's conduct.

"Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States," he said. "It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."

The interview was broadcast in English and translated by a green military uniform-wearing Iraqi anchor. NBC said Arnett gave the interview when asked shortly after he attended an Iraqi government briefing.

"His impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world," NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. "His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. His outstanding reporting on the war speaks for itself."

Arnett was the on-air reporter of the 1998 CNN report that accused American forces of using sarin gas on a Laotian village in 1970 to kill U.S. defectors. Two CNN employees were sacked and Arnett was reprimanded over the report, which the station later retracted. Arnett ultimately left the network.

He went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of the MSNBC show, National Geographic Explorer. When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports.
 
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freaking Arm Chair general should be shot for sabotage and treason....if i were a parent of a son or daughter over there i would want this bastard, suckup's head....

why dont you just encourage Husseins resolve and propaganda machine you traitor!!!! unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is the most infuriating thing i have ever seen the liberal media do.....DIRECTLY takes lives from our soldiers
 

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I just got done writing and told NBC what I thought. I also informed them that I would write to any company that I see advertising on there station informing them that I would not purchase there product until Peter Arnett was fired or there advertising was pulled from NBC. Dont know if it will help but it sure cant hurt.

I just hope that Baghdad Peter shows all the troops that storm the city the interview he did and ask them what they think of it.
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He's a reporter. He's not a mouthpiece for the administration, not matter how much you want him to be.

And there's just nothing else to say about it. He's a reporter. If you want your media to convey what the military wants it to convey, watch FOX. I won't deny at all that what he said feeds right into the hands of the Iraqis, but I also don't think its a reporter's job not to do that.

If you want to read something interesting, check out the following. The Baltimore Sun yesterday printed an interview with a guy named Chirs Hedges. Here's a snippet from the interview -- I really think it's relevant here and good to keep in mind every time you read or heard something about the war.

Here's The Link.

And here's a snippet because it's kind of long.


Chris Hedges was a war correspondent for 15 years, initially as a free-lancer and eventually for The New York Times. He started out by covering insurgencies in El Salvador, where he found, to his delight, that he was a "24-year-old kid [ticking off] the White House on a daily basis." After five years there, he went on to Guatemala, Nicaragua and Colombia, saw the first intifada in the West Bank and Gaza, covered the civil war in the Sudan and Yemen, witnessed the uprisings in Algeria and the Punjab, chronicled the fall of Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania, and documented the Gulf War, the Kurdish rebellions in southeastern Turkey and northern Iraq, and the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo.



What is the purpose of the press in wartime?


The goal of the press should be to report war as it is, and to expose the lies that are being told, and the way the information being handed to you is manipulated and distorted. Most press don't do it. Those that do are often ignored and reviled by not only the public, but by their own - i.e., the press.

I.F. Stone is the great American example. Or Randolph Bourne, First World War. Or Edmund Morrell in World War I. Morrell, a British journalist, ended up in prison in 1917; Stone was blacklisted. He got out his newsletter, which eventually gained acclaim, but during the Korean War and the Vietnam war, he was very much marginal and isolated.

That's what happens with war. Everybody climbs on the bandwagon. The press is always part of the problem. It sees itself as part of the war effort: boosting morale, maintaining civilian support for the war, explaining the war, giving it that coherent, heroic narrative. Finding those hometown boys who give that food to the small children, who fight with bravery and courage, documenting the perfidious nature of the enemy.


How are the media faring now?

The coverage has been ... one giant commercial for the U.S. Army. When the military went back and looked at how they had handled the press during the Persian Gulf War, with the very heavy restrictions - only about 180 reporters and photographers were allowed into the pool - the military found it had placed so many controls on the press that it had trouble getting out the message it wanted to get out.

That's what they set out to rectify. It was not about creating broader, freer, better coverage. It was about getting more reporters into units to get the message the military wanted out, out.

We have to have embedded reporters, but if we rely on them exclusively and don't have good independent reporting, we're going to have a very distorted picture of what this war, any war, is like.

Look, these reporters are bonding with the units they're with. It's an inevitable consequence of being with an armed unit. They rely on the units for protection. They rely on them for places to sleep, for their food. They're from the same nation. They're fighting a hostile force that wants to kill them. They will also go where the military wants them to go and see what the military wants them to see. If things go horribly wrong, the military won't take them in. They had helicopters ready to take journalists into Basra to film and document the cheering crowds, and when there weren't any, the journalists didn't go.

The lie of war is almost always the lie of omission: the blunders by our own generals, the mistreatment of civilians, the mistreatment of prisoners, the horrors of wounds - all of that is rarely seen by those who are not in combat.

 

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It doesent matter if you thought he said what he did because he was just a reporter doing his job. He got fired from NBC.


NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES

March 31 ? NBC and MSNBC on Monday said they had terminated their relationship with Peter Arnett after the journalist told state-run Iraqi TV that the U.S.-led coalition?s initial war plan had failed and that reports from Baghdad about civilian casualties had helped antiwar protesters undermine the Bush administration?s strategy.


?Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments.?
? PETER ARNETT
Interviewed on Iraqi TV ?IT WAS wrong for Mr. Arnett to grant an interview to state controlled Iraqi TV ? especially at a time of war ? and it was wrong for him to discuss his personal observations and opinions in that interview,? NBC News President Neal Shapiro said in a statement. ?Therefore, Peter Arnett will no longer be reporting for NBC News and MSNBC.?
Arnett, who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for The Associated Press, appeared on NBC?s ?Today? show Monday to apologize for his statements. (MSNBC.com is an NBC News-Microsoft joint venture)

INTERVIEW CONTENT
In the interview, Arnett said his Iraqi friends had told him that there was a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain were doing.
He said the United States was reappraising the battlefield and delaying the war, maybe for a week, ?and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan.?


?Clearly, the American war plans misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces,? Arnett said during the interview, which was broadcast by Iraq?s satellite television station and monitored by The AP in Egypt.
Arnett said it was clear that there was growing opposition to the war within the United States and a growing challenge to President Bush.
?Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States,? he said. ?It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments.?
The interview was broadcast in English and translated by a green military uniform-wearing Iraqi anchor. NBC said Arnett gave the interview when asked shortly after he attended an Iraqi government briefing.
The interview quickly made Arnett a target of the war?s supporters.
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., said on Fox News Channel that she found the interview ?nauseating? and accused Arnett of ?kowtowing to what clearly is the enemy in this way.?
NBC initially backed Arnett?s interview. ?His impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world,? NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. ?His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. His outstanding reporting on the war speaks for itself.?

BACKGROUND SINCE 1991
Arnett garnered much of his prominence from covering the 1991 Gulf War for CNN. But even then the first Bush administration was unhappy with his reporting, suggesting that he had become a conveyor of propaganda.

At one point, he was denounced for his reporting about an allied bombing of a baby milk factory in Baghdad that the military said was a biological weapons plant. The U.S. military responded vigorously to the suggestion it had targeted a civilian facility, but Arnett stood by his reporting that the plant?s sole purpose was to make baby formula.
Arnett was also the on-air reporter of a 1998 CNN report that accused U.S. forces of using sarin gas on a Laotian village in 1970 to kill U.S. defectors. Two CNN employees were sacked, and Arnett was reprimanded over the report, which the station later retracted. Arnett later left the network.
He went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of ?National Geographic Explorer.? When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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White House demands reporter be fired. He was end of story. Now if we can get rid of that lier Oil North. And Mr to old Rather.
 

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Personally, I find his firing very disconcerting and not surprising at all.

One more silencing of a dissenting voice. If things were going well, they wouldn't be concerned about one guy out of hundreds expressing a different opinion.

I'll refer to a quote I posted in the above piece...

The goal of the press should be to report war as it is, and to expose the lies that are being told, and the way the information being handed to you is manipulated and distorted. Most press don't do it. Those that do are often ignored and reviled by not only the public, but by their own - i.e., the press.

How very prescient, Mr. Hedges.
 

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Shrimp we are getting killed in the PR war. That is why. We just seem to play into the Arab world of hate toward us. And some of our TV networks just play one side of story. Thats a real shame because that just folls the American People. Thats not good. I dont say bad mouth us. But Amercans need to know why so many hatefull things are said about us. Need to understand why we sit back here at home on high security alert.
 

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FOX NEWS

FOX NEWS

Arnet was fired. I saw his last NBC interview this morning.

I think it will take 3 days for FOX NEWS is sweep him up.

This is the type of reporter FOX NEWS loves to have on staff.
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We're getting killed in the PR War because we just invaded a country unprovoked without UN approval and we're killing civilians and wrecking historic cities.

It's hard to spin good PR out of that.

As justified as we might seem in shooting (6!) cabbies since a cab suicide bombed 4 marines, there are some people around the world that (SHOCK!) value 6 innocent iraqi lives at least as much as 4 American invaders' lives.
 

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Shrimp,

I'm sorry, but not surprised, that you don't see anything wrong with what arnett did. You have said numerous times that you are against the war, but don't you see that what he said iraq will use as propaganda, & cause more deaths on both sides.

You also keep stating that this is an illegal war because it wasn't approved by the un.What did the previous 17 or 18 resolutions mean? Doesn't it mean anything that saddam signed a peace treaty after the gulf war & failed to follow the treaty? And before you tell us about the security counsel not approving this action, don't you see a conflict of interest with some of these security counsel countries? france, germany,russia, china,& syria were all violating the un resolutions by illegally trading with saddam. But I have not seen anything posted by you condemning those actions. I only see your posts criticizing the US.

You also say that "we" are killing innocent people. How come I don't see anything by you condeming how iraq is killing it's people. Or do you think that the woman who wanted to surrender to the allies but was hanged instead in the town(forgot the town name) center just American propaganda?
 

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AR we need to be alittle carefull. We caused some of the hate here. We need to remember after 91 war we told the Kurds in the North and the Moslims of the South to revolt and we would protect them and help with supplies. This was all after that treaty was signed. Then they did just that and all of a sudden Bush 41 backed off. We left them hanging. They both lost thousands because of that. So thats why there not all running out in the street right now saying Thank you American G I. It will happen but some more time has to pass so they see we are realy staying and helping this time. So I condem both actions. Now for Arnett I know when someone with half a glass of water to work withfor brains says something. Thats all I believe about half. Our Networks all of them could do a better job of reminding Americans some of the history of why we are where we are today. To just push it aside and talk everyday like we neve did or do anyhting wrong. Well if were honest with our selfs we know better. Now this time we need to do it right.
 

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DJV....that is true....but who pretty much MADE Bush 41 back off??

Answer: the UN

Bush 41 did not stick to his guns.....that hurt his presidency....backed off in Iraq and also increased taxes...

Actually the UN passed over 20 resolutions condemning Iraq....and DID authorize the use of force in the last one....but unfortunately some of the members were bought off for the final blessing which we do not need anyway because last i checked the constitution said we were a sovereign nation
 

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Doc I agree with you on most all info. The one proplem we could not answer was why us. By that I mean yes UN got in the middle of much of 91. but for what ever reson. Iraqis blamed us not the UN. As the last super power stnding they just blamed it all on us. I do think our Generals and Rumsfeld mayhave misjudged that more then they want to say.
 

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DJV,

Good post right after mine. I agree with what you posted. I was not a fan of Bush41. Don't think he was tuned into the American people.

Imo, there are a few reasons why the iraqi people are not celebrating their liberation: They see saddam on tv & are afraid that he might survive this,& they think the Americans will abandon them again.They don't trust us. I also heard someone on tv give another reason. He said that the iraqi people have been controlled by saddam for many years where they are told what to do, where to do it, & for how long that, they are conditioned to be in this routine.They may be afraid to be on their own & make their own choices. Maybe someone here can explain this better then me.

Dr. freeze,

I have a question for you, just for my own curiosity. Is there anything with the republican party that you don't like? Is there any subject you disagree with them about?
 

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for one i am against some of the patent laws for pharmaceuticals...also think they market too much and this drives up health care costs
 
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