My Best Angle

[Jrdhorse]

For the most part you guys are correct in your thinking about listening to other people for tips via trainer jocks and grooms. They can only tell you when a horse is feeling good. It doesnt mean he will win and thats for sure. But believe me the best angle by far is when you know a horse is feeling bad and knowing he may possibly be a favorite in an upcoming race. My brother is a groom for a leading trainer and when he tells me a horse is sore or off his feed. It can be very lucrative to toss a favorite out and bang the exotics. These tips dont come around alot but when they do its full pockets time. But you are still correct you still need to handicap the race to cash in. Patience is the name of the game when it comes to making money at the track. You must pick your spots and control your bank roll. trying to bet every race that comes up is a quick way to deplete your bankroll. Most professionals use the 1-3 method. Which is wagering a certain amount to win and then tripling that amount to place on the same horse. For instance wagering 50 to win and 150 to place on your horse. Most pros are happy to make 50 cents on the dollar and who wouldnt at this tough game. Well enough of my babbling and good luck to all in this tough way to earn a living. ps if i get ant info on a horse that is not going to run his best on a given day I will post it

 

[Patternseeker]

this fits in with what ferdville was saying.

yea, if you play every race on the card, or go from monitor to monitor, from east coast to west coast, it's a sure fire way to go home with less money than you came with.

i like the 1-3 idea, jrd, as i have read about that. i have also read some good players comments that they don't "go after the big hit" which i assume means exotics. some folk won't play a horse that is less than 3 or 4 to 1, which also makes sense to me. i've cashed a lot tickets on a 7/5, 2 to 1 --- and if i cashed as many on bigger odds, i'd still have my bankroll.

so i'm not chasing the short odds when i return.

thanks for info, jrd.

 

[Dogfish]

jrd,thanks for the solid info last winter,and for mentioning this most powerfull angle again.after struggling most of last year with different betting schemes i too ended up with 1-3 it seemed to work for me,pattern the big score always ate my bankroll too.i still play a few exoitics but rarely.i believe most newer players are going for the big hit,thus creating overlays in win,place pools,also theirs always those playing there birthdays and lucky numbers.thats are competition! also on any given day cant most any horse run 3rd or or 4th icant afford that all button to often.just some thoughts.getting ready for oak tree meet oct. 4th see you then!:toast:almost forgot how do we overcome the added juice bad enough with 15 to 17 on straight,but 20 to 25 on exiotics plus in my state 25%gone if i.r.s exotics, over 1,1oo won.man what a wicked game we we play!

 

[ferdville]

You have hit it on the head when you talk about the horrendous take outs on exotics. In California, it goes into the 20's. Totally agree with your notion that most younger and newer horse players focus on exotics. No wonder you see triples and doublesrunning throughout the card along with trifectas. I've mentioned this before, but one of my friends is an absolute top notch handicapper. But he focuses on nothing but exotics and has had many a day when he had several winners, even good prices, and ended up losing his shirt. I think racing became moe boring to me as the influx of exotic wagering has taken over.