ncaa football: september 15th -- september 17th ....
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Axle said:Great job gman2...2nd one easier on the eyes...
:yup :iagree:
...great stuff, as always, gman. :mj14: :clap:
...couldn't agree more re: Va Tech and Ohio...4 TD's this year and only one by the offense...the other three were by the cornerback that single-handedly beat sorry ass Pitt. :mj07:
...and will definitely give Miami, Oh a look this weekend.
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gman2 said:
Gman-
As always I love your posts. Nobody else on here presents the most recent up to date info that can truly help in the capping of a MAC game. Your awesome.
Having said that, hasn't Toledo already started MAC play, W. Michigan?
Also having the extra 3 days to prepare for Fresno St. AND knowing they have a bye week after should alleviate and urge to look ahead dont you think?
I kinda have to go with Danny Noonan on this one, the first half line of -17.
Toledo 1st half
76 of 118 pts (64.4%) in first two games
opponents - 6 of 37 (16.2%) in first two games
average spread at half - 35 pts
Temple
2 of 16 (11.1%) in first two games
opponents -79 of 128 (62.7%) in first two games
average spread at half - 38.5 pts
those are really hard numbers to argue with.
intheblue:
youre correct on both. toledo has (technically) played their mac opener, having it sandwiched between a few OOC games, and they do get a week and a half to prepare for fresno before they head out there. it was more of a "thinking out loud" kinda post, just noting that the next game on the slate will be much more of a test, and that they get into the meat of the conference schedule after that (though their schedule post-fresno until mid-november is a cakewalk). so youre right, we SHOULD see a focused toledo effort here, despite the fact that theyre playing a grossly inferior team. toledo has been a money machine for me over the last 2+ years but i just cant bring myself to lay 28. obviously nothing is appealing about temple. and i cant even consider the owls for contrarian reasons because theyre just so bad.
toledos 1h/2h splits are an interesting 'study'. if you remember their games over the last year or so, they blew out their weak opponents in the 1h and then put it on cruise control in the 2nd half. but when toledo played quality foes (northern illinois, miami, bowling green) they got off to slow starts but then came on to totally dominate the 2nd half. the rockets have been a perennial mac powerhouse so theyre doing something right -- they just take dfferent routes to victory against different types of teams. and i would agree, a 1h play would make the most sense based on toledo's style of play. amstutz will prob be aggressive with the play calling and look to get gradkowski the record early and build a big enough lead to get cochran some experience at qb.
still a no-play for me, but think you guys playing the 1h should cash.
youre correct on both. toledo has (technically) played their mac opener, having it sandwiched between a few OOC games, and they do get a week and a half to prepare for fresno before they head out there. it was more of a "thinking out loud" kinda post, just noting that the next game on the slate will be much more of a test, and that they get into the meat of the conference schedule after that (though their schedule post-fresno until mid-november is a cakewalk). so youre right, we SHOULD see a focused toledo effort here, despite the fact that theyre playing a grossly inferior team. toledo has been a money machine for me over the last 2+ years but i just cant bring myself to lay 28. obviously nothing is appealing about temple. and i cant even consider the owls for contrarian reasons because theyre just so bad.
toledos 1h/2h splits are an interesting 'study'. if you remember their games over the last year or so, they blew out their weak opponents in the 1h and then put it on cruise control in the 2nd half. but when toledo played quality foes (northern illinois, miami, bowling green) they got off to slow starts but then came on to totally dominate the 2nd half. the rockets have been a perennial mac powerhouse so theyre doing something right -- they just take dfferent routes to victory against different types of teams. and i would agree, a 1h play would make the most sense based on toledo's style of play. amstutz will prob be aggressive with the play calling and look to get gradkowski the record early and build a big enough lead to get cochran some experience at qb.
still a no-play for me, but think you guys playing the 1h should cash.
looks like miami is getting hit to 7 at some places now.
rain has been passing through ohio, though it might stop by the time this one kicks off at 4pm. cant really say that rain would level the playing field for the underdog because kent simply cannot run the ball and if it gets down to a battle in the trenches, miami holds a definite edge there. if machen is gonna be whipping it around 40 times, gotta think kent would prefer optimal conditions.
rain has been passing through ohio, though it might stop by the time this one kicks off at 4pm. cant really say that rain would level the playing field for the underdog because kent simply cannot run the ball and if it gets down to a battle in the trenches, miami holds a definite edge there. if machen is gonna be whipping it around 40 times, gotta think kent would prefer optimal conditions.
anyone have the stones to play the line move on temple? from 28 down to 26, even 24.5 at pinnacle? if im not mistaken, wisconsin line dropped from 32 down to 30.5 and 30.0 right before kickoff against temple last week.... and that move was just a bit off. sun tzu- you have the nads to put your hard earned money down on the owls? thats about as contrarian as it gets, lol. a 3.5 point late move on a team thats given up more than 120 points playing a team averaging nearly 60 ppg through 2 games. im watching this one from the sidelines, but major credit to anyone with the stones to go side with the line move.
small play on eastern michigan 2nd half (+10) (+105)
eagles arent nearly as bad as they played in the 1h. things got out of hand early due to a long punt return by breaston and then a snap over the emu punter's head the next possession. kinda snowballed on emu. need the over for a good chunk so sorta using this as a protection bet. if emu scores a touchdown, game goes over. and if emu is shutout id be amazed. their offense can score points, despite their horrific 1st half. can see this being a 14-14 or 17-10 UM 2nd half
eagles arent nearly as bad as they played in the 1h. things got out of hand early due to a long punt return by breaston and then a snap over the emu punter's head the next possession. kinda snowballed on emu. need the over for a good chunk so sorta using this as a protection bet. if emu scores a touchdown, game goes over. and if emu is shutout id be amazed. their offense can score points, despite their horrific 1st half. can see this being a 14-14 or 17-10 UM 2nd half
gman2 said:
Interesting point:
Maybe we should bet the 2nd half only on next week @ Fresno St.(quality opponent) and test that theory
Oh and you gotta love the 1st half cover.
vyrus:
radio:
http://www.teamline.cc/teampages.html?teamcode=4424
(it was free last year and it looks to be free this year too. although i think you need to submit some info, made-up info will prob work)
gametracker/live stats:
http://live.kentstatesports.com/2005/football/miami/xlive.htm
radio:
http://www.teamline.cc/teampages.html?teamcode=4424
(it was free last year and it looks to be free this year too. although i think you need to submit some info, made-up info will prob work)
gametracker/live stats:
http://live.kentstatesports.com/2005/football/miami/xlive.htm
vyrus858 said:
definitely confident at the half. kent is (surprise) one-dimensional and has cross midfield just once in the first half. miami has had plenty of chances to score (though its a little unsettling that theyve only got 10 on the board) but two fumbles inside kent territory and a missed FG are the reasons. machen has thrown the ball close to 30 times for kent (27 i believe) and miami should be able to just pin the ears back and come after him in the 2h. dont see kent scoring DD. if miami pushes one more TD across, we should be in good shape
like buffalo before the game but passes. but not gonna pass at half. they look inspired and rutgers looks totally flat. hofher actually doing a good job of mixing in both quarterbacks and keeping rutgers off balance. buffalo holds a big edge in total offense and should keep this within 14. for christ sake even stewart sampsel looks good for buffalo so you know things are going buffalos way.
buffalo bulls 2nd half (+11.5)
buffalo bulls 2nd half (+11.5)
