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those of us that work know how much burden we have with the taxes we pay, these young guns like trampled underdick think Obama's socialism is going to save us.

socialism has never worked in history of the world
 

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smart folks know that the health care bill is not about health care. ..i?s about power and control...

lthis is the latest power grab(after banks and the auto industry)...next up,cap and trade...

llbs will use any means to sell their latest power grab....and if they get away with this one there`ll be no going back...

when the "we want free stuff" crew later come to understand that the public option doesn?t work, they`ll claim that it`s the fault of the republicans....just like fannie ame and freddie mac...

they`ll just come up with another big lie, like ?bush lied. people died?. . and, because the msm will lie down for them,it`s not too hard to rewrite history to come to the new ?truths?.....like they`re doing now with textbooks in academia...
 

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Why aren't you voting for 3rd party candidates? The Republicans could really give a fuck about you.[/quote]

That is whole point TU--

I am not looking for party to take care of me--I'm looking for one to get out of the way.

On your 3rd party candidate--Interesting happening in 23rd district election in NY tomorrow.
The distyrict has elected reb for bout a century (upper NY farmland)

The rebvs had very liberal lady running --is pro gay marraige-anti gun--pro unions.

The folks got pissed and a 3rd parety candidate is running as conservative.
The lady running as reb quit a few days ago )no support) and threw her support to the dem candidate. Will be interesting result tomorrow--Right now conservative candidate is leading polls.

Interesting sidenote--Gringrinch threw his support befind the lady--while Palin and Mn gov threw in with conservative.
A little inter party fued to say the least--more importantly--"the people" threw in with the conservative.
 

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Why aren't you voting for 3rd party candidates? The Republicans could really give a fuck about you.[/quote]

That is whole point TU--

I am not looking for party to take care of me--I'm looking for one to get out of the way.

On your 3rd party candidate--Interesting happening in 23rd district election in NY tomorrow.
The distyrict has elected reb for bout a century (upper NY farmland)

The rebvs had very liberal lady running --is pro gay marraige-anti gun--pro unions.

The folks got pissed and a 3rd parety candidate is running as conservative.
The lady running as reb quit a few days ago )no support) and threw her support to the dem candidate. Will be interesting result tomorrow--Right now conservative candidate is leading polls.

Interesting sidenote--Gringrinch threw his support befind the lady--while Palin and Mn gov threw in with conservative.
A little inter party fued to say the least--more importantly--"the people" threw in with the conservative.

The GOP takes your money and spends it on wars that line the pockets of contractors. Good call on your part.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Here are primary questions we must ask ourselves TU
Corsine (a dem)spends 23 mill of his own to get elected --Bloomberg a Reb spends 50 mil of his own money to get elected mayor--
Why?
Politics=power=$$$$$$
Clinton paid taxes on earnings of $36,000 before politics.

Thought you might like this take on Reb party from Scott Rasmusen--top political pollster IMO.
It concerns election I noted above-

What NY-23 Says About The GOP And Its Voters


Monday, November 02, 2009
<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> SHARETHIS.addEntry( { title: "What NY-23 Says About The GOP And Its Voters", url: 'http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/new_york/what_ny_23_says_about_the_gop_and_its_voters' }); </SCRIPT>

<!-- START: Rasmussen Reports: Second Level Pages: Medium Rectangle (300x250); Ads Managed By: Intermarkets.net --><SCRIPT type=text/javascript src="http://harvest483.adgardener.com/flowerPot.aspx?c=c7c32c55-5525-46d7-a124-a5aa5613eca3"></SCRIPT>The race in New York?s 23rd Congressional District highlights the concerns many Republican voters have about their party leaders.

At a time when 73% of Republicans believe their party's representatives in Congress have lost touch with the GOP base, 11 county leaders in upstate New York picked a nominee for Congress who supported the Democratic president?s stimulus package, his health care reform plan and ?card check? legislation designed to make union organizing easier. All three items are overwhelmingly opposed by Republican voters - and even by Republicans in Congress.
The decision by county GOP leaders to nominate such a candidate seemed almost designed to provoke the party?s core voters, and it did.
A Conservative Party candidate, Doug Hoffman, entered the fray and picked up endorsements from many leading national Republicans. Newt Gingrich, on the other hand, urged voters to stick with the party?s official nominee. He said a decision by local party leaders was good enough for him, but most Republican voters don?t have such confidence in the party leadership.
(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.
This past weekend, the official Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava dropped out of the race in the face of falling poll numbers and lackluster fund-raising. Then she endorsed the Democrat.
As a result, the New York 23rd Congressional District race will end up being between a Conservative Party candidate and a Democrat. In many ways, that pairing reflects the reality of national match-ups more than the typical partisan competition. There are more conservatives than Democrats in America, and there are more Democrats than Republicans.
One reason for this is that while Republican voters overwhelmingly consider themselves conservative, only 56% of conservative voters consider themselves to be Republicans. In other words, nearly half of all conservatives nationwide reject the Republican Party label.
This means that Republicans looking to broaden their party?s outreach cannot ignore the need to attract a large number of conservative voters along with some political moderates. Of all the non-Republicans in the nation, 31% consider themselves at least somewhat conservative while 37% say they?re political moderates.
The sweet spot for Republicans are core issues that unify conservatives while dividing more moderate voters. One such issue is health care where conservatives are united in their opposition to the plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats,and 37% of moderates are opposed, too.
Looked at from that perspective, nominating a GOP candidate who supports the president?s health care plan is likely to drive away more voters than it attracts. The same logic applies to the stimulus package, card check and other such proposals. That?s just what happened in NY-23. Nationwide, 42% currently support the health care plan working its way through Congress.
It should be noted that Democratic Party dynamics are entirely different.
While a plurality (44%) of Democrats are politically liberal, nearly as many (35%) are moderate. So Democrats must make compromises within their party before reaching out. Also, the pool of available non-Democrats is very heavily on the moderate side.
Just nine percent (9%) of non-Democrats are even somewhat liberal while 29% are politically moderate. These non-Democratic political moderates are absolutely essential to Democratic candidates. That?s why Democrats are eager to suggest that situations such as NY-23 indicate a GOP rejection of moderates in favor of extremists.
Interestingly, while Republican voters say their congressional representatives are out of touch, a plurality (47%) of Democratic voters view their members of Congress as roughly in the same place they are ideologically. Just 27% say the average Democratic member of Congress is more liberal than the average Democrat, while 19% think the average Democrat in Congress is more conservative.
 
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