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Tenzing

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so 1 trillion, 5 trillion, 20 trillion, all the same to you.? Gotcha. Care to re-affirm the "fact" that the debt increased by 36% under Clinton again? Nahh, didn't think so. I guess it's like Tenzing's 45 years of a democratic congress, i.e. bullshit.

A necon full of shit? wow, go figure.

Um, wtf are you on about?

If you can't ****ing add, you sad tosser, then stfu.

Answer the ****ing question.

Who the **** are we borrowing 56 Trillion dollars from? And why don't they just buy the whole ****ing country instead of lending it to us, if our money is backed by nothing and is valueless?

You ****tard liberals drive us into recession after recession, jack up all of national expenses, sing "God Damn America", and hate my country. I feel sick to my stomach that good men and women die every day in the line of duty, and you thank them by complaining about the manner in which they die.

Sad.

So, once more, you know-it-all losers, who the **** are we borrowing 56 trillion dollars from? If you don't know, then stop ****ing posting.
 

redsfann

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Um, wtf are you on about?

If you can't ****ing add, you sad tosser, then stfu.

Answer the ****ing question.

Who the **** are we borrowing 56 Trillion dollars from? And why don't they just buy the whole ****ing country instead of lending it to us, if our money is backed by nothing and is valueless?

You ****tard liberals drive us into recession after recession, jack up all of national expenses, sing "God Damn America", and hate my country. I feel sick to my stomach that good men and women die every day in the line of duty, and you thank them by complaining about the manner in which they die.

Sad.

So, once more, you know-it-all losers, who the **** are we borrowing 56 trillion dollars from? If you don't know, then stop ****ing posting.



http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
 

redsfann

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I'm also grabbing this from DTB's post about the National Debt declining during the Clinton years. Explains who holds our debt quite well--but I'm sure Tenzig won't be able to figure it out...;)


Mason: Real estate developer Douglas Durst, the clock's owner, says he didn't plan on the debt reaching ten trillion. So, you figure you'll run out of space how soon?

Durst: Within two years.

Mason: The U.S. is in hock as deep as any nation in history. Who holds our I.O.U.S? Well, more than a quarter of our debt is now owed to foreign countries. Japan is our biggest foreign creditor. We've borrowed $673 billion from the Japanese. The Chinese are now number two.

Economist: Well, in a very real sense the Chinese central bank has financed our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mason: The bill for the war in Iraq exceeds $260 billion almost as much as we now owe the Chinese government.

Jim Grant: We are all at the mercy of the world's faith in us. The collateral for the dollar is the world's idea of America.

Mason: Jim Grant is the editor of "Grant's Interest Rate Observer." If they lose faith in us, we're in trouble.

Grant: Economists use a technical term?we would be cooked.

Mason: Here's why, if our foreign investors decided to move their money elsewhere we'd have to offer them higher interest rates. That would drive up our own interest rates, make it more expensive to buy homes and pay the mortgage and ultimately make us all poorer.

Economist: You do the math, it just doesn't work and something has got to change.

Mason: Of course, that's what everyone said when the debt clock was first unveiled in 1989 and we owed a mere two trillion. In the Clinton years, when our debt actually began to shrink the clock was turned off and covered up. Did you think you'd have to turn it back on again one day?

Durst: I was sure that something would happen but I never thought it would be like this.

Mason: So Durst is planning to build a bigger clock. Today if we were all billed for the national debt, we'd each owe nearly $28,000. Bob? You can send your check in whenever you like.

Schieffer: We know the Chinese, for example, loan us money.

Mason: Yes.

Schieffer: Because that's one way we can then buy their products. Does anybody ever think that someday they might actually call in that note?

Mason: No one would ever call in the money... the loans, of course, because the U.S. economy would effectively collapse for a time and nobody wants that to happen. What everybody's afraid of is that China, Japan may start investing in India or other countries. Those would become more attractive and we look less attractive and all of a sudden you see what happens.

Schieffer: There you are. Thank you very much, Anthony
 

Chadman

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Yes wars are expensive- but do end and so do expenses. However is insane to speak of cost of wars in terms of national debt--and want to to elect candidates promoting more and expanding current programs.

Let me get this straight. For the purposes of this argument - how high the debt is currently - it is insane to bring up the cost of war in terms of national debt. And yet, incessantly, when we have talked previously about how high the debt is, you bring up the two wars we are currently fighting (the understandable just one in Afghanistan/Pakistan, and the elective one in Iraq) as being a main reason of how high the debt is currently.

Okay...:rolleyes:
 

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Russia has to love this. We almost broke them winning cold war. And hid that it was hurting us some to. But now they can laugh as they with all that oil are making big bucks. As they watch us going well almost broke. But brag about all the miilions are top 2% are raking in.
 

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NO-DTB-N0 SUPPORT FOR MR CLINTON OR MRS CLINTON. I'm not gay,I've never been gay. Just an example or I never had sex with that woman. Pick the one that suits you. Liars,100% certified,bought and paid for. Thats the political system. If you want me to pick between clintons moral downfall and G.W.'S lies I will go with the one where soldiers don't die. Now since I don't know you from any other person that post on this site all I have to go on is your being so one sided. Like I'm right because I'm a republican you must be wrong if your a democrat,get your head out of your ass and think.Who is calling the shots,who is really running the show.Not the two party system that the sheep graze upon.Your smart enough to know that the BANKS,BANKERS,CORPORATIONS ALSO GROUPS SUCH AS BILDERBURG JUST TO NAME ONE OF SERVERAL GROUPS ARE IN CONTROL.Why wouldn't they be they control the world currency. Its called debt slavery. I know that you know this because your not stupid.Its like a chess game,the people in power have had us in check for a long time. Now its check-mate. Game over.YOU have played their game well with your posted remarks on this forum.I'm a republican and I'm right and if your a dem your an idiot.Divide and conquer.Keep the DAMN FOOLS fighting among each other.
 

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Um, wtf are you on about?

If you can't ****ing add, you sad tosser, then stfu.

Answer the ****ing question.

Who the **** are we borrowing 56 Trillion dollars from? And why don't they just buy the whole ****ing country instead of lending it to us, if our money is backed by nothing and is valueless?

You ****tard liberals drive us into recession after recession, jack up all of national expenses, sing "God Damn America", and hate my country. I feel sick to my stomach that good men and women die every day in the line of duty, and you thank them by complaining about the manner in which they die.

Sad.

So, once more, you know-it-all losers, who the **** are we borrowing 56 trillion dollars from? If you don't know, then stop ****ing posting.

You have some serious personality disorders going on. Honestly, you should get some help.
 

Tenzing

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sigh

sigh

You have some serious personality disorders going on. Honestly, you should get some help.

No, dude, you are the Homo.

Are you a registered, certified, practicing psychologist? No..?? Then don't pretend to be one. You are the one with issues, assuming (sigh) that other adult human beings wake up in the morning to see what pronouncements the Jabber has uttered.

This is an easy question, for all you psychologists and America-haters: who is lending us all the untold trillions of dollars???

If you don't know, then stop posting. No more spouting off BS in a subject you knowing about, no more bogus medical declarations, no more "America" sucks, just answer the question.

If America does not have these 56 trillion dollars, then who on god's green does...?
 
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