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I was wonder what this thread would hold inside and was a bit scared to open it to be honest.....two questions:
1) what is a knuckle dragging right winger? I asked because once over the radio airwaves of a CB I heard the term "sh!t knuckles" used and I NEVER understood that either....is it a racist shot or something else in meaning.....I seriously dont know the meaning of either saying.
2) If ANYONE has a problem with Michelle and Obama having a little fist pound as a personal way to show either affection or celebration.....would it be better if he called her a CUNT? I do believe one of these 2 canidates has been heard using that word towards his wife, which is a bit disturbing to me....
I (personally) am afraid of a leader that has a quick temper or that has a bad sense of when to joke and WHAT TO JOKE ABOUT, think about it PRO ATHELETES get bad raps for not doing things correctly beings kids look up to them and mock the actions they make or use, wtf will happen if a president full of ignorance was to take the oval office? It seems Neither of these 2 canidates are SOLID AS A ROCK or have all the answers, but one with good values and a level head would give me a bit more relaxation knowing he wouldnt just push the button over the fact that he had a bad moment. They BOTH have plenty on the plate if they were to be elected, and my opinion has been with the current administrations faults and failures..its gonna be hard for anyone to come in and do a good job, its gonna takes A LONG TIME(if it ever happens) for this country to be put back on the right path. But GOD BLESS and may we get back to the good life sooner rather then later:SIB
1) what is a knuckle dragging right winger? I asked because once over the radio airwaves of a CB I heard the term "sh!t knuckles" used and I NEVER understood that either....is it a racist shot or something else in meaning.....I seriously dont know the meaning of either saying.
2) If ANYONE has a problem with Michelle and Obama having a little fist pound as a personal way to show either affection or celebration.....would it be better if he called her a CUNT? I do believe one of these 2 canidates has been heard using that word towards his wife, which is a bit disturbing to me....
I (personally) am afraid of a leader that has a quick temper or that has a bad sense of when to joke and WHAT TO JOKE ABOUT, think about it PRO ATHELETES get bad raps for not doing things correctly beings kids look up to them and mock the actions they make or use, wtf will happen if a president full of ignorance was to take the oval office? It seems Neither of these 2 canidates are SOLID AS A ROCK or have all the answers, but one with good values and a level head would give me a bit more relaxation knowing he wouldnt just push the button over the fact that he had a bad moment. They BOTH have plenty on the plate if they were to be elected, and my opinion has been with the current administrations faults and failures..its gonna be hard for anyone to come in and do a good job, its gonna takes A LONG TIME(if it ever happens) for this country to be put back on the right path. But GOD BLESS and may we get back to the good life sooner rather then later:SIB
Sleeping muther fu*ker. I met 2 chicks from Tampa tonight. We will hang out with them this fall. They said some shit about Ft. Myers. They want to play darts with us.
Sleeping muther fu*ker. I met 2 chicks from Tampa tonight. We will hang out with them this fall. They said some shit about Ft. Myers. They want to play darts with us.
Word up is the code word.
Satire is great. It's even greater when people (all the left wing talking heads who are up in arms) are too stupid to understand it.
Personally, I like the fist bump and use it often with my peeps. At the golf outing, I'll try to great everybody in this manner. :00hour
Personally, I like the fist bump and use it often with my peeps. At the golf outing, I'll try to great everybody in this manner. :00hour
Satire is great. It's even greater when people (all the left wing talking heads who are up in arms) are too stupid to understand it.
Personally, I like the fist bump and use it often with my peeps. At the golf outing, I'll try to great everybody in this manner. :00hour
Certainly beats getting everyone's germs all over your hands. I use it with my nieces and nephews exclusively - especially when we go to Chuckie Cheese.
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My wife will love this bit of insight!
Didn't golfers start the fist bump back in the day? Something about high fives possibly making them lose a little feeling in their hands? That would add a whole separate level of irony to this thing...
If you fist bump at the golf tourney, you are basically declaring your vote is going to Obama. :SIB
Obama campaign slams 'tasteless' New Yorker cover
Obama campaign slams 'tasteless' New Yorker cover
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1054523,sweettease071408.article
Obama campaign slams 'tasteless' New Yorker cover
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1054523,sweettease071408.article
How to cover New Yorker's cover?
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
By Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere."
-- G.K. Chesterton
Last month, an art installation at a storefront gallery in New York was shut down by police and Secret Service agents before the public had a chance to pass its own judgment.
Artist Yazmany Arboleda had mounted a show inside the makeshift gallery called: "The Assassination of Hillary Clinton / The Assassination of Barack Obama."
The show featured painted nooses, sexual imagery, racist terms and other artifacts and photos attacking both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton.
"It's art," the 27-year-old artist said, explaining his muse. "It's not supposed to be harmful.
It's about character assassination -- about how Obama and Hillary have been portrayed in the media.
It's about the media."
Maybe, but it was incredibly bad art, too, because it was more about provoking a reaction by the authorities than being "art."
Still, it shouldn't have been shut down just because it was obnoxious.
It deserved the audience that would have surely sneered at it for being derivative and superficial.
Fast forward a month.
Probably the only thing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain will agree on this week is that the nexus of art and politics has become a very strange place.
The latest issue of New Yorker magazine has a cover that lampoons the vision of Barack and Michelle Obama currently circulating on right-wing blogs and those endlessly forwarded e-mails.
In staff artist Barry Blitt's illustration, the Obamas are portrayed as subversive black exotics fist-bumping in the Oval Office.
Barack Obama is wearing a tunic, kufi and sandals and looking at the reader with a sideways glance.
Michelle Obama is portrayed wearing an Afro, a black v-neck and military camouflage pants.
A Kalashnikov and ammo belt are slung over her shoulders.
She could pass for Angela Davis during her exile-in-Cuba phase.
The final touch is the American flag burning in the fireplace under a portrait of a glaring Osama bin Laden.
In a predictable, but understandable, overreaction to the freewheeling tradition of American satire, Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network has been joined by the Muslim American watchdog group Project Islamic Hope in calling for retailers to pull the issue from the stands.
There is so much emotional dynamite embedded in the image that taken in isolation, each of the elements has enough resonance to deliver a gut punch to readers inclined to miss its savage irony.
Even so, I doubt that Barack Obama is comfortable with the effort to censor New Yorker, a magazine he and many of his staff probably subscribe to.
What's obvious to regular readers of the left-of-center New Yorker is that the drawing perfectly distills the nonsensical mythology that has plagued the Obama campaign since the primaries.
It is not intended as a critique of Obama per se.
The more interesting question is whether folks glimpsing the cover on newsstands beyond the Hudson will "get it" and how many will see it as confirmation of their darkest suspicions.
According to some polls, as much as 15 percent of the electorate believe the Illinois senator is a "secret Muslim" who took the oath of office with his hand on the Koran.
The Obama campaign didn't wait a news cycle before responding. "The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Sen. Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create," spokesman Bill Burton said.
"Most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree."
The Obama campaign is concerned because, unlike the New Yorker editors, they are under no illusion that Americans "get" anything when it comes to ironic portrayals of the candidate.
Ask any newspaper columnist or political cartoonist to tell you how well irony translates in the hinterlands.
The New Yorker cover is at odds with the tone of every other image of Barack Obama that has run on the front of national magazines recently.
The latest issue of Rolling Stone portrays the candidate with a sly, beatific smile.
It's a follow-up to an earlier cover which featured the Illinois senator in an aura of bluish light.
The latest Newsweek cover shows Mr. Obama in prayer, but without his usual halo.
Honestly, there's a messianic quality to much of the imagery and hype surrounding Barack Obama that doesn't allow for a lot of satire.
Treating a presidential candidate with the same awe one brings to a sacred text is un-American and a betrayal of our democratic traditions.
If Barack Obama is elected president, artists will mock him because so much art opposes whomever is in power.
The New Yorker cover is doing his fans a favor by inoculating them against truly hostile satire to come.
Tony Norman can be reached at tnorman@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1631.
First published on July 15, 2008 at 12:00 am
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
By Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
"Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere."
-- G.K. Chesterton
Last month, an art installation at a storefront gallery in New York was shut down by police and Secret Service agents before the public had a chance to pass its own judgment.
Artist Yazmany Arboleda had mounted a show inside the makeshift gallery called: "The Assassination of Hillary Clinton / The Assassination of Barack Obama."
The show featured painted nooses, sexual imagery, racist terms and other artifacts and photos attacking both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton.
"It's art," the 27-year-old artist said, explaining his muse. "It's not supposed to be harmful.
It's about character assassination -- about how Obama and Hillary have been portrayed in the media.
It's about the media."
Maybe, but it was incredibly bad art, too, because it was more about provoking a reaction by the authorities than being "art."
Still, it shouldn't have been shut down just because it was obnoxious.
It deserved the audience that would have surely sneered at it for being derivative and superficial.
Fast forward a month.
Probably the only thing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain will agree on this week is that the nexus of art and politics has become a very strange place.
The latest issue of New Yorker magazine has a cover that lampoons the vision of Barack and Michelle Obama currently circulating on right-wing blogs and those endlessly forwarded e-mails.
In staff artist Barry Blitt's illustration, the Obamas are portrayed as subversive black exotics fist-bumping in the Oval Office.
Barack Obama is wearing a tunic, kufi and sandals and looking at the reader with a sideways glance.
Michelle Obama is portrayed wearing an Afro, a black v-neck and military camouflage pants.
A Kalashnikov and ammo belt are slung over her shoulders.
She could pass for Angela Davis during her exile-in-Cuba phase.
The final touch is the American flag burning in the fireplace under a portrait of a glaring Osama bin Laden.
In a predictable, but understandable, overreaction to the freewheeling tradition of American satire, Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network has been joined by the Muslim American watchdog group Project Islamic Hope in calling for retailers to pull the issue from the stands.
There is so much emotional dynamite embedded in the image that taken in isolation, each of the elements has enough resonance to deliver a gut punch to readers inclined to miss its savage irony.
Even so, I doubt that Barack Obama is comfortable with the effort to censor New Yorker, a magazine he and many of his staff probably subscribe to.
What's obvious to regular readers of the left-of-center New Yorker is that the drawing perfectly distills the nonsensical mythology that has plagued the Obama campaign since the primaries.
It is not intended as a critique of Obama per se.
The more interesting question is whether folks glimpsing the cover on newsstands beyond the Hudson will "get it" and how many will see it as confirmation of their darkest suspicions.
According to some polls, as much as 15 percent of the electorate believe the Illinois senator is a "secret Muslim" who took the oath of office with his hand on the Koran.
The Obama campaign didn't wait a news cycle before responding. "The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Sen. Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create," spokesman Bill Burton said.
"Most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree."
The Obama campaign is concerned because, unlike the New Yorker editors, they are under no illusion that Americans "get" anything when it comes to ironic portrayals of the candidate.
Ask any newspaper columnist or political cartoonist to tell you how well irony translates in the hinterlands.
The New Yorker cover is at odds with the tone of every other image of Barack Obama that has run on the front of national magazines recently.
The latest issue of Rolling Stone portrays the candidate with a sly, beatific smile.
It's a follow-up to an earlier cover which featured the Illinois senator in an aura of bluish light.
The latest Newsweek cover shows Mr. Obama in prayer, but without his usual halo.
Honestly, there's a messianic quality to much of the imagery and hype surrounding Barack Obama that doesn't allow for a lot of satire.
Treating a presidential candidate with the same awe one brings to a sacred text is un-American and a betrayal of our democratic traditions.
If Barack Obama is elected president, artists will mock him because so much art opposes whomever is in power.
The New Yorker cover is doing his fans a favor by inoculating them against truly hostile satire to come.
Tony Norman can be reached at tnorman@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1631.
First published on July 15, 2008 at 12:00 am
I'm listening to NPR, the guest is Jane Mayer, a staff writer for The New Yorker. I'm sure she is a very very intelligent person but there is a reason she is a writer. She can't put her thoughts together without studdering like crazy and running on. I highly doubt her or others of her ilke would be able to handle a free flowing live press conference. Time, typing, and the ability to edit makes life easier sometimes. At best she is coming across very poorly. She is writing investigative pieces on the War on Terror. She has a new book out.
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This is exactly how I feel. The cover makes perfect sense to me AND it wouldn't "bother me" if I was liberal or conservative.
I just don't get the outrage.
I do agree with Bryanz about it being a good conversation starter.
As for fist bumping not being presedential... How much does anyone know about our past presidents? John Quincy Adams swam naked every morning in the Potomac river. Bush does some chest thump with some army guy. Which of our presidents was actually presidential?
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thankfully we didn't have to witness jq adams swimming in the buff...because i am pretty sure that it wasn't a pretty sight....:mj07:
i read a book that gmorozz recommended called..."secret lives of amrican president"...if you haven't read i would recommend it....
as far as the fist bump is concerned...i wouldn't care if obama did this with his staff...but not publically....
and i would say most president's, except our present one tried acting presidential....
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Christ, he holds hands with the 'royalty' of Saudi Arabia, whose citizens were responsible for 9/11, strolling through the White House Rose Garden.
Escorts all the Saudi 'royalty' out of the country by plane when not one American citizen was allowed to fly.
But a 'fist bump' between man and wife? :scared
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black people dont fist bump in business situations AR. It is only with family or close friends. Its a culture thing. Its not that hard to understand.
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I know that you know this, but that is the custom there and Bush was trying to fit in as he is prone to do when Cheney is not around.
It would have been disrespectfull not to have.
When they are over here they have to take their dresses off and wear blue jeans there in Crawford.
