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Yank commandos already in place, mag says

BY JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - U.S. commandos are hunting for secret nuclear and chemical weapons sites and other targets in Iran, and have a plan to turn the hard-line Islamic country into the next front in the war on terrorism.
"It's not if we're going to do anything against Iran. They're doing it," an ex-intelligence official tells this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Since at least last summer, the U.S. teams have penetrated eastern Iran, reportedly with Pakistan's help, the magazine said.

"Iraq is just one campaign," the official told investigative reporter Seymour Hersh. "The Bush administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign."

The aim is to rid America and its allies of a major state sponsor of terrorism, Hersh writes.

"We've declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy," the official tells Hersh. "This is the last hurrah - we've got four years and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, whom President Bush has asked to stay on in his second term, has been jockeying for more power to conduct covert ops without nagging congressional oversight.

"It's a global free-fire zone," said one Pentagon adviser.

Iran has fought tooth and nail demands that it open its nuclear energy program for inspection, fueling suspicion that the charter member of President Bush's "axis of evil" is up to no good.

That same secrecy also has heightened tensions with another axis member with nuclear ambitions, North Korea.

Pentagon neoconservatives - hard-liners who include Rumsfeld and his deputy Paul Wolfowitz - believe that surgical strikes on a small list of military targets will minimize civilian casualties and may spark an uprising by reformers against the ruling fundamentalist mullahs, current and ex-officials said.

Hersh told CNN that if targets are lined up by this summer, U.S. attacks could soon follow.

They "want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible," a Pentagon consultant told Hersh.

Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz believe that, just as with some Soviet-bloc countries, "the minute the aura of invincibility the mullahs enjoy is shattered ... the Iranian regime will collapse," the consultant said.

Yet Rep. Peter King (R-L.I.) of the House International Relations Committee said, "I wouldn't assume the Iranian regime will just collapse."

With combat operations still raging in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the hunt for weapons of mass destruction came up empty, Bush would have to explain fully a new call for military action against Iran, King said.

"He'd have to get the people behind it," King told the Daily News. "But you'd have to factor in that the American public would be somewhat suspicious."

But Bush aides are "compulsively optimistic" that the mullahs have a fragile hold on power, and they are sure to strike soon, predicted defense analyst John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org.

"I think they're going to do it," he told The News. "I'm skeptical that diplomacy will succeed."

While presidential counselor Dan Bartlett complained that Hersh's story was "riddled with inaccuracies," he notably did not outright deny any of it.

"No President at any juncture in history has ever taken military options off the table," Bartlett told CNN's "Late Edition." "What President Bush has shown [is] that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are under way right now."
 

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Next stop Iran, stop after that, Cleveland. Start ordering your bunker material now. July 2005. Stock up. Those of you with inventory left over from Y2K have a leg up
 

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AR182 said:
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been jockeying for more power to conduct covert ops without nagging congressional oversight.

Yeah, that 'nagging congressional oversight'. He's done such a great job with the Iraq campaign, it's only natural that he'd get more autonomy and power for an action against Iran.

It's great that this is splashed all over TV, as well.

We should probably wait until we get a handle on our current 'stops' before going after a country much more lethal and large than Iraq and Afghanistan put together.

There's a great article in this months 'Atlantic' that outlines why commando type surgical strikes will backfire. Mostly because we don't have near the amount of intelligence necessary needed on the precise locations of all key elements of the program.

And once that genie is out of the bottle, Iran can and will enflame the situation in Iraq, which they haven't really done yet. Let alone dealing with Iran itself.
 

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hey eddie....how are things ?


before the war in iraq started i heard a few ex-cia people say that iran was the place to go.

i doubt that this will happen....we'll see.
 

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Hey my Scottsdalian friend:

I never thought I would say this but its too bad the Soviet Union didn't make it. At least with a balance of power, we couldn't go running amuck killing everybody who we perceive to be a threat.

In our effort to wipe out tyranny, we have become the tyrant.

Eddie
 

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Iraq was never the place to go in the first place! Iran and Saudi Arabia are the two most dangerous countries in that area, Iraz because they more than likely have some form of a NUK weapons system and Saudi Arabia because this is where the vast majority of the funding for terror comes from. Going into Iran at this point would be a error as we cannot handle Iraq on the ground and more than likely we will be in Iraq for the next ten years. The best case scenerio is to fund a revouloution within Iran and arm them so that the can stage the coup themselves. Sooner or later someone is going to have to take a hard line on Saudi Arabia and we know this will not be Bush due to his financial ties to the country, but we cannot allow them to continue funding terror.
 

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The way to Bin's heart is through Saudi. Iran we have special units in there. I don't think so. If we did we would stop the leak in the border where our administration said all the insurgents are coming from. They fail to say that 50% of Iraq's insurgents are not that at all. There home growen. In fact we don't know what to do in Iraq anymore.
 

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Too bad the Bush boys spread us so thin and almost have us bankrupt. Unless he wants to go in and Bomb the crap out of them. I can't see the Bush Boys doing that. Where's the money in it if you cant bomb the crap out of them and then rebuild them?
 

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rumor has it that Bush is going to man and arm the borders with the homosexual arm of the miitary(S.E.A.L.S) using Gay bombs. Any truth to it?
 

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I never thought I would say this but its too bad the Soviet Union didn't make it. At least with a balance of power, we couldn't go running amuck killing everybody who we perceive to be a threat.

In our effort to wipe out tyranny, we have become the tyrant.

EDDIE ONCE AGAIN YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. CAN I ASSUME YOU KNOW WHY CHINA SITS BACK QUIETLY WHEN THEY COULD RAISE MAJOR HELL. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.

THE US IS LIKE THE BULLY GOING AROUND FLEXING ITS MUSCLE TO ANYONE THAT DISAGREES. CHINA IS LIKE THE BLACK BELT GUY THAT QUIETLY WAITS FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR MOVE TOWARDS THEM. THEN U SEE THE BULLY WHINING AND CRYING IN THE CORNER SAYING 'WHAT DID I DO'

BEST OF LUCK FOR ALL OF US IS ALL I CAN SAY.
 

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I LOVE WR said:
CHINA IS LIKE THE BLACK BELT GUY THAT QUIETLY WAITS FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR MOVE TOWARDS THEM.

Pretty lame statement.

BEST OF LUCK FOR ALL OF US IS ALL I CAN SAY.

Oh boy!!

More pity. :rolleyes:
 

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My business is fine AND GROWING in this "aweful" country.

And my day is comprised of a different schedule than the normal routine.
 

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I LOVE WR said:
I never thought I would say this but its too bad the Soviet Union didn't make it. At least with a balance of power, we couldn't go running amuck killing everybody who we perceive to be a threat.

In our effort to wipe out tyranny, we have become the tyrant.

EDDIE ONCE AGAIN YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. CAN I ASSUME YOU KNOW WHY CHINA SITS BACK QUIETLY WHEN THEY COULD RAISE MAJOR HELL. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.

THE US IS LIKE THE BULLY GOING AROUND FLEXING ITS MUSCLE TO ANYONE THAT DISAGREES. CHINA IS LIKE THE BLACK BELT GUY THAT QUIETLY WAITS FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR MOVE TOWARDS THEM. THEN U SEE THE BULLY WHINING AND CRYING IN THE CORNER SAYING 'WHAT DID I DO'

BEST OF LUCK FOR ALL OF US IS ALL I CAN SAY.

How's that line go....

"Who's the bigger fool? The fool, or the one that follows him?"

Being such the unwanted genius, why are you here suffering us?

Your 'talents' are being wasted in this forum. Your phony concern and fake passion is needed North (along with the ass kissing).
 

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STOP PULLING THE BS BLANKET OVER YOR HEAD. CLEAN UP YOUR COUNTRY IS ALL IM BEGGING YOU TO DO. OR DO U NOT GIVE A SHT OR HAVE A CLUE.

PLEASE I BEG U
 

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2 hours, 40 minutes ago Politics - Reuters



TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has the military might to deter attacks against it, its defense minister said in remarks published on Tuesday, one day after President Bush (news - web sites) said he would not rule out military action against Iran.

Instant replay of what the Taliban and Hussein said--except he forgot Allah Willing.:)

Record 129 journalists killed in 2004, Iraq worst hotspot: IFJ
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...afp/20050118/ts_afp/mediaifjyear_050118070344

"The report singled out Iraq, where 19 reporters and other media workers were killed last year, and the Philippines, where 13 journalists were murdered."

Amazing when you listen to liberal media the war in Iraq is responsible yet we are not allowed to use military in Phillipines--could it possible be that its makes no diff ifwe are there are not,it just the Muslim way--whereever or who ever----

--and more liberal backing from Algezeera
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B66F8570-C246-49BA-8B24-D5EF5A0813AC.htm

Could some of the liberals here tell us why they are always protesting and conservatives don't. The elections been completed once again--get over it--and get on with life,if you have one.
 
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