NFL Total Wins 2013

[WildBillPicks7]

Odds out from ESPN from C Cowherd show today:

N England 11 1/2
Miami 7 1/2 (Show stated very undervalued, 2nd year QB and good talent, addition of WR - Wallace)
Jets 6 1/2 (Stated on the show, "Ryan is one of the best HC in the NFL"..... You have to be fucking kidding me!!)
Bills 6 1/2 (New HC, new scheme, new QB)
Pittsboygh 9
Baltimore 8 1/2 (WTF?, Really?)
Cincy 8 1/2
Cleveburgh 6
Houston 10
Indy 8 1/2
Tennessee 6 1/2
Jax 5
Denver 11 1/2
San Diego 7 1/2 (New HC)
KC 7 (Colonel Reid in the KFC kitchen)
Oakland 5 1/2

Giants 9
Cowboys 8 1/2
Skins 8
Eagles 7 (New HC)
Green Bay 10
Bears 8 1/2 (New Coach from CFL)
Lions 7 1/2 (Really?)
Minnesota 7 1/2
Falcons 10
Saints 9 (Peyton is back)
Tampa 7 1/2
Carolina 7 (How many 3 pt or less losses last year?)
49ers 11 1/2
Seattle 10 1/2 (easier schedule other than their division, last year several east coast trips)
ST Louie 7 1/2
AZ 5 1/2 (New Coach, New QB)

Too early for me to give my picks on these, I'm usually 57% on them, best year 2001, I was 13-3. Things to factor here, new coaches, new philosophies and talent swings, also pre-season, injuries that happen, if star QB/WR/RB go down then what? What's the bench. Many many factors and much more to come!!

College foots just 100 days away? WOW!!

Gotta build some bankroll with bases, LOL!!

GL!

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[Old School]

Baltimore 8 1/2

no need to place anyother wager this coming season IF it is all about winning money.

ya bet the OVER for....

THE DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

lets hear it Raven fans...

like stealing only it ain't..

it's free money:0003

 

[the addict]

Couple look easy to me.


Skins over

Packers over

Dallas under

 

[WildBillPicks7]

Baltimore looks way too easy, Old School, I was shocked to see that line too. I like your thinking on it!! :0074

Addict, I like your thinking on those 3, Dallas is a mess, the other two, have to check their depth and how they do in pre-season.

These are the lines I got from my book shops:

Denver Broncos 11.5 Over 11.5/-115 Under 11.5/-115
Indianapolis Colts 8.5 Over 8.5/-115 Under 8.5/-115
Houston Texans 10.5 Over 10.5/-115 Under 10.5/-115
Philadelphia Eagles 7.0 Over 7/-110 Under 7/-120
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7.5 Over 7.5/-150 Under 7.5/+120
Tennessee Titans 6.5 Over 6.5/-115 Under 6.5/-115
Dallas Cowboys 8.5 Over 8.5/-110 Under 8.5/-120
Detroit Lions 7.5 Over 7.5/-135 Under 7.5/+105

Kansas City Chiefs 7.0 Over 7/-150
Under 7/+120
New York Giants 9.0 Over 9/-115 Under 9/-115
Carolina Panthers 7.0 Over 7/-140 Under 7/+110
Oakland Raiders 5.5 Over 5.5/+110 Under 5.5/-140
Pittsburgh Steelers 9.5 Over 9.5/-115 Under 9.5/-115
San Diego Chargers 7.5 Over 7.5/+110 Under 7.5/-140
St Louis Rams 7.5 Over 7.5/+120 Under 7.5/-150
Atlanta Falcons 10.0 Over 10/+110 Under 10/-140

Baltimore Ravens 8.5 Over 8.5/-105 Under 8.5/-125

Chicago Bears 8.5 Over 8.5/-130 Under 8.5/+100

Miami 7 1/2 Over 7.5/-125 Under 7.5/-105

Minnesota Vikings 7.5 Over 7.5/+100 Under 7.5/-130
New Orleans Saints 9.5 Over 9.5/-115 Under 9.5/-115
San Francisco 49ers 11.5 Over 11.5/+100 Under 11.5/-130

Seattle Seahawks 10.5 Over 10.5/-140 Under 10.5/+110

Cleveland Browns 6.0 Over 6/-130 Under 6/+100
New York Jets 6.5 Over 6.5/+105 Under 6.5/-135

Buffalo Bills 6.5 Over 6.5/+120 Under 6.5/-150

Cincinnati Bengals 8.5 Over 8.5/-120 Under 8.5/-110
Green Bay Packers 10.5 Over 10.5/-130 Under 10.5/+100

Jacksonville Jaguars 5.0 Over 5/-115 Under 5/-115
New England Patriots 11.5 Over 11.5/-110 Under 11.5/-120
Washington Redskins 8.5 Over 8.5/+110 Under 8.5/-140

Arizona Cardinals 5.5 Over 5.5/+120 Under 5.5/-150

Books in Vegas from what I gathered from listening to a few shows and doing some research, only a few bets are allowed before books release to entire public, so many plays on totals for wins when they are first posted, then totals for wins are adjusted, also other books wait until a few other books release totals before they post their totals for wins. Once those wagers are played, the books open to everyone. Private players or 'wiseguys' usually bang these plays early but the smarts bang them late, some try to get double the action, trying to middle the 1/2 lines.

FYI!!

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[bleedingpurple]

Packers UNDER is a LOCK!!!!!

 

[WildBillPicks7]

Packers UNDER is a LOCK!!!!!

Curious as to your reasoning, other than you don't like the Packers, Bleedin?

They were 11-5 last year, they basically have everyone back, top players signed and are bringing in several newcomers and draft picks.

Good chance they sweep their division opponents, they've owned Detroit, Minnesota is not going to be any stronger than last year, Ponder is predictable, Bears have new system and coach so it will take time and Cutler is fixated in not changing much, the Bears "D" isn't what it once was, they have makeable wins @ Cincy, have Cleveburgh & Philly at home, both winnable games, toughest home games will be Atlanta and Pittsburgh, toughest road games @ Giants & Baltimore in Wk 6, Dallas they should beat. I see a 12-4 team without any injuries to key players.

The odds are 10 1/2? looks decent on paper.

We shall see!!

Would like to hear why with rationale as to why you feel they will be a "LOCK TO GO UNDER!"?

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[bleedingpurple]

Curious as to your reasoning, other than you don't like the Packers, Bleedin?

They were 11-5 last year, they basically have everyone back, top players signed and are bringing in several newcomers and draft picks.

Good chance they sweep their division opponents, they've owned Detroit, Minnesota is not going to be any stronger than last year, Ponder is predictable, Bears have new system and coach so it will take time and Cutler is fixated in not changing much, the Bears "D" isn't what it once was, they have makeable wins @ Cincy, have Cleveburgh & Philly at home, both winnable games, toughest home games will be Atlanta and Pittsburgh, toughest road games @ Giants & Baltimore in Wk 6, Dallas they should beat. I see a 12-4 team without any injuries to key players.

The odds are 10 1/2? looks decent on paper.

We shall see!!

Would like to hear why with rationale as to why you feel they will be a "LOCK TO GO UNDER!"?

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Tonight I will

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I think there are too many Baltimore fans on this board. 8' looks about right to me. They lost a ton of starters. They won 10 last year before losing almost double digit starters.

 

[bleedingpurple]

OK first off, I do hate the Packers but have no problems with putting $$$ on them when I think they are going to cover. I predicted them to be in the Super Bowl the year they won it, bet them all through the playoffs and Super Bowl against Pitt, and thought they would make it again the following year. Predicted the entire NFC North Over / Unders correctly last year, and I rarely miss on the Vikings total, when I think they are going to lose or suck I have no problems picking against them, Packer fans are rarely objective and call people "haters" when picked against. IE: San Fran Playoff game. Easy $$$$$

You got them at 12 wins and sweeping the division? I have them getting clipped at least once by Minnesota and Detroit. The Lions scare me a lot this year.

Green Bay has done absolutely nothing this off season to improve their biggest weakness. Their defense is a joke, I know they ranked 11th last year, but they do not play a horrible schedule like last year. They lack a pass rush and have to blitz to get any pressure and their run defense is horrible.

Every team improved somewhat, although I see the Bears falling off the cliff, they still have O line issues , defense is aging and they counted on a ton of defensive TDs last year. Back to the Packers.

Packers are always a tough team to beat with Rodgers, but besides Rogers and a couple wideouts, and don't forget Matthews, their roster is light. Ted Thompson is a drafting genius? He got lucky a year or two but his past 3 drafts have been below average at best. He got DB Hayward and WR Cobb in past 3 years, but the tackles are not very good, and last year's draft was a slough d/t injuries.

The schedule is much tougher than it was last year, I mean Jacksonville, New Orleans, Tennessee, St. Louis, to name a few, the one win they had where they pumped their chest was against Houston and they proved to be a fraud. Minny whipped em. They are going to start out with a loss at San Fran so they will have to finish 11 - 4. They IMO are losing to Minny in Minny, Strong chance Detroit gets em, Giants is a loss, and Dallas is going to get em as well. Green Bay can't cover teams. This schedule is much tougher, I know they should of had one more win against Seattle cause of the blown call, but this team was outplayed by Detroit at home, Detroit was going to go up by 17 but Stafford drops back to pass and drops it with nobody around him and Packers ramble for TD, and Jax outplayed them at home but idiot fumbles without being touched and allows a blocked punt for TD. I know teams create their own luck but man that's very lucky.

You say Minny will not be stronger? It's hard to say because they have the same schedule issue as the Packers, Vikes were 10 - 6 cause of the weak schedule. Ponder is shaky and predictable but he is in his third year (make or break) He has his entire offensive line coming back from last year, intact for the first time and he has a better array of receivers assuming Jennings stays healthy. Plus he did scorch the Pack in final game at home last year. Vikings drafted two players who are going to be perennial all pros last year Matt Khalil and Harrison Smith, those guys are going to be much better. Vikes have a couple aging Super Stars but they have a roster of good young ball players who should only improve. They SHOULD be better just because of that.

I don't count this year's draft players because many are busts and just about every team gets a good grade but if you want to compare drafts, the Vikes draft was hard to beat (Projected). One thing is, you can't depend on the kicker having as great of a year.

1. Difficult Schedule on paper
2. 3 weak drafts in a row 2010 - 2012. Green Bay rarely signs a free agent and live and die by their drafts. 3 years of mediacrocy will expose them.
3. Did not improve defense
4. Relying on a lot of injured players to be healthy
5. Weak Offensive Line (Can Rodgers keep surviving the pounding)
6. Teams around them keep improving

Like I said anything is possible with Rodgers , but 11 wins is a bit much. One more point, you can tell that their talent level is slowly declining to the rest of the league, when they play good teams, they generally get whacked.

Not saying they won't make playoffs but 9 wins may win the division cause I see them beating each other up

 

[Packers4Life]

As of right now Lions over 7 1/2 look like the best bet.

 

[bleedingpurple]

As of right now Lions over 7 1/2 look like the best bet.

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[WildBillPicks7]

OK first off, I do hate the Packers but have no problems with putting $$$ on them when I think they are going to cover. I predicted them to be in the Super Bowl the year they won it, bet them all through the playoffs and Super Bowl against Pitt, and thought they would make it again the following year. Predicted the entire NFC North Over / Unders correctly last year, and I rarely miss on the Vikings total, when I think they are going to lose or suck I have no problems picking against them, Packer fans are rarely objective and call people "haters" when picked against. IE: San Fran Playoff game. Easy $$$$$

You got them at 12 wins and sweeping the division? I have them getting clipped at least once by Minnesota and Detroit. The Lions scare me a lot this year.

Green Bay has done absolutely nothing this off season to improve their biggest weakness. Their defense is a joke, I know they ranked 11th last year, but they do not play a horrible schedule like last year. They lack a pass rush and have to blitz to get any pressure and their run defense is horrible.

Every team improved somewhat, although I see the Bears falling off the cliff, they still have O line issues , defense is aging and they counted on a ton of defensive TDs last year. Back to the Packers.

Packers are always a tough team to beat with Rodgers, but besides Rogers and a couple wideouts, and don't forget Matthews, their roster is light. Ted Thompson is a drafting genius? He got lucky a year or two but his past 3 drafts have been below average at best. He got DB Hayward and WR Cobb in past 3 years, but the tackles are not very good, and last year's draft was a slough d/t injuries.

The schedule is much tougher than it was last year, I mean Jacksonville, New Orleans, Tennessee, St. Louis, to name a few, the one win they had where they pumped their chest was against Houston and they proved to be a fraud. Minny whipped em. They are going to start out with a loss at San Fran so they will have to finish 11 - 4. They IMO are losing to Minny in Minny, Strong chance Detroit gets em, Giants is a loss, and Dallas is going to get em as well. Green Bay can't cover teams. This schedule is much tougher, I know they should of had one more win against Seattle cause of the blown call, but this team was outplayed by Detroit at home, Detroit was going to go up by 17 but Stafford drops back to pass and drops it with nobody around him and Packers ramble for TD, and Jax outplayed them at home but idiot fumbles without being touched and allows a blocked punt for TD. I know teams create their own luck but man that's very lucky.

You say Minny will not be stronger? It's hard to say because they have the same schedule issue as the Packers, Vikes were 10 - 6 cause of the weak schedule. Ponder is shaky and predictable but he is in his third year (make or break) He has his entire offensive line coming back from last year, intact for the first time and he has a better array of receivers assuming Jennings stays healthy. Plus he did scorch the Pack in final game at home last year. Vikings drafted two players who are going to be perennial all pros last year Matt Khalil and Harrison Smith, those guys are going to be much better. Vikes have a couple aging Super Stars but they have a roster of good young ball players who should only improve. They SHOULD be better just because of that.

I don't count this year's draft players because many are busts and just about every team gets a good grade but if you want to compare drafts, the Vikes draft was hard to beat (Projected). One thing is, you can't depend on the kicker having as great of a year.

1. Difficult Schedule on paper
2. 3 weak drafts in a row 2010 - 2012. Green Bay rarely signs a free agent and live and die by their drafts. 3 years of mediacrocy will expose them.
3. Did not improve defense
4. Relying on a lot of injured players to be healthy
5. Weak Offensive Line (Can Rodgers keep surviving the pounding)
6. Teams around them keep improving

Like I said anything is possible with Rodgers , but 11 wins is a bit much. One more point, you can tell that their talent level is slowly declining to the rest of the league, when they play good teams, they generally get whacked.

Not saying they won't make playoffs but 9 wins may win the division cause I see them beating each other up

Some good valid points Bleedin, I concur with ya on a few.

On paper right now, 10 or 10 1/2 looks good for the Over, if the line stays this way thru August, I may play it over, but too early to decide right now. The two OL that GB drafted and Atone, are legit prospects, the kid from Grand Valley keep an eye on, he's better at this stage than T O was with SF coming out of UT-Chatt. The injuries that plagued the Pack last year, all will be healed this year. The players that can't cut training camp will be gone. The RBs for the Packers are under-rated a bit, Green has had his moments, the Harris kid has a good burst of speed and I really think Lacy is going to be a beast, especially in the 5-10 yard red zone. The 3 amigo WR's, Jordy, Jones and Cobb I think are very good, who else in the Division can you name 3 Wrs this good other than Calvin Johnson with the Lions? Vikings have? Bears have? Lions have? I'm talking 3 deep now. Also TE solid position on this team.

The defense yeah, they stunk last year, but do you think the Packers are going to let that go and not address it this season in camp? I think they will and Raji has already been told to come into camp 30 lbs less than last year, and he's been working towards that goal. They will bring in tons of guys to get looks in TC and OTA's, but their DBs need some work like you stated and they should be better at LB. In the Black and Blue division, it will be a scoring division, not so much defense.

The Vikings I think are solid on DL and RB of course, but many question marks still, they do have their OL and kicking, but as you stated, Ponder needs to step it up this being his 3rd season.

We shall season. Lots of time left before pre-season games.

Thanks for the info and time you put into it. Very valid points!

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[WildBillPicks7]

One other point too on the Packers, RJ Bell from Vegas Insider, stated that Packers opened at 12 at the LVH, now the line is 10, so it dropped 2 wins, or was this an adjustment by the books?

I'm not sure cuz I'm not in Vegas, but from what I gather on the money bet, many took under "12", when hit hit 10, it went back up to 10 1/2.

Perhaps an "11" middle? not sure!

GL!

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[MadJack]

Baltimore 8 1/2

no need to place anyother wager this coming season IF it is all about winning money.

ya bet the OVER for....

THE DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

lets hear it Raven fans...

like stealing only it ain't..

it's free money:0003

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[Old School]

:0003

FREE MONEY

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[MadJack]

FREE MONEY

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The free money was last season's post season. :0003

 

[Old School]

The free money was last season's post season. :0003

OS MJ
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[Scrapman]

100% winner after the sports guys make thier picks for this over or under or predictions for teams to go bad or good go opposite of hwat they say !


Wait in a week the Marc Lawrence Playbook comes out and all his tout buddies make predictions for year

superbowl champion will be sleeper team will be etc..

they never even get one side right !

 

[bleedingpurple]

If Green Bay was at 12, I would take everything I got, sell everything I own, Take out all my retirement, take 80% of my future paychecks and place it on the UNDER. NO WAY they win 13 games.

**** I would have to move into my sister's house, explain why I was flat broke and watching only Packer games instead of Viking games. *****

 

[hedgehog]

Dallas over 8.5

Houston under 10

SF under 11.5

NE under 11.5

Tampa over 7.5

my top 5 should be easy money :0003


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