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I am sure some friends play will show up that is my free play hell had 5-0 nit run with the same mine were up at leat 8 hours before , the friend is like the little girl who has the tea parties only she can see them but she has a fun time still pouring the tea and dishing out the cookies
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Good luck

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good luck buddy, hope it comes in for ya, Im probably going to take a stab with it as well, think they have the horses and that mich will play obviously worse than the other night, I dont see them shooting that well again, have a good baseball season and speak to you down the road about my potential move to fla

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he may be on his camel by now , hope he gas up and hope he don't forget to change his oil:tongue
 

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he may be on his camel by now , hope he gas up and hope he don't forget to change his oil:tongue

funny chit ray, sorry for jumping on you for saying "jew lover" I know you aren't an ignorant and hatred guy towards other americans, all's well, good luck this baseball season my fellow guy from the northeast, even though I hate the eagles and phillies and 76ers ;) ;)
 

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good luck

some people are like ticks...they just keep sucking and sucking off of people until they can't suck anymore then they explode and run back to the middle east
 

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WTF freeze, you've got 2 guys with pay services giving all kinds of chit to a guy who gave out more winners than anybody else on this forum. It is still America where somebody can speak their on minds. I for one would like to hear what he has to say. I personally think he is the most qualified to answer a lot of the questions that need to be asked. He HAS been there and done that. As far as I know he has never tried to charge a dime for any of his info. I'd put his record up against anybody here.
 

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if i were down 246.30 percent on my service picks i would be spending time on my own service trying to dig people out of a financial hole that i put them in.
 

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WTF freeze, you've got 2 guys with pay services giving all kinds of chit to a guy who gave out more winners than anybody else on this forum. It is still America where somebody can speak their on minds. I for one would like to hear what he has to say. I personally think he is the most qualified to answer a lot of the questions that need to be asked. He HAS been there and done that. As far as I know he has never tried to charge a dime for any of his info. I'd put his record up against anybody here.

lmao...his inflated record that is

his record is no better than .500 if kept accurately

can't think of a worse thing than to have Hanoi Hellah over there giving inspiration to our troops....people who have died for things he takes advantage of then slaps the face of

our country means something to many of us and there is a certain degree of loyalty and respect for our nations laws -- including citizenship laws which some people mock

as far as i am concerned, the camel is leaving so dont wipe the sand off your ass on the way out....no room for American and Jew haters and pro-terrorists in our country....we already have enough things to worry about rather than being infiltrated with this trash
 

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good luck

some people are like ticks...they just keep sucking and sucking off of people until they can't suck anymore then they explode and run back to the middle east
Did I miss something?
 

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Honestly, I have no idea how you could accuse Hellah of stealing your picks. It's an absolute joke, with all the picks he has contributed on this board.

I haven't followed this whole saga, but I guarantee you he wasn't stealing your picks - it's not his style. He has no incentive to do so.
 

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freeze, youre an idiot.....and change that moniker, you haven't been the Big 12 king in quite some time. Go back to your park bench.
 

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go ahead pd1 go to my site ask my clients which about 29 some are from here they can tell you where i stand in every sport, and yes he is a pay service ask jack about that one, kosar, You need to know all the facts before you spout off maybe check my whole hoops season here that i gave out, then tell me i was not way in the + side here, i have emails sent to me from clients he tried to recruite, i have always been a sevice and have always held back a few plays each day for this site also not to gain business,i have enough of that, to help thoughs who do not want to pay and i respect that as well check my boxing, and fb this year all have been at around the 59% mark and check out units won, then check out halftime plays, go ahead and match him up to me, nfl 41-17 ncaah and nba lost 3 weeks in each for the year boxing 82-17-1 baseball has won 42 out of last 47 weeks and a carry over from last year to this year is on a 11 week run, ask jack who is honest and who is not , trust me i have my facts straight before i post them, i am far more then some fly by night scam service, ask around at the books out here, is he on a handicapping radio show, that is herad national, he you believe what you want i have facts and if any of my clients feel like speaking up that is their business, i am a real nv. corp. check it out not hard to do and in good standings with the bbs in clark county and also donate a very good amount to special olympics and march of dimes from my corp. so before you speak have the facts right.

i have much better things to do then tell someone a person has used my plays and like i said I have had emails from others on here where he has tried to get their busines, i email no-one, i advertise in newspapers , here which i pay for ask jack more then lot of you guys bet in a month, and in different newspapers.

i have never stopped giving plays here or ever hid the fact that i am a service and pro gambler who makes a much better living thin a college baseball coach and professor. say all you want, and lowell please don't post misleading facts in my post, if i remember right I have a sheet on you a got you out of a whole 3 years ago in baseball for free do to a problem with someone else.

it does not make a difference to me if i post plays here or not, and don't tell me they don't and have not won good money in hoops this season or nfl this season and halftime plays, what abunch of shit you need to know the whole story and have all your facts before you try and post because I had them way before i ever said anything and so did others from this board, and not one time after being ask over 20 sometimes if he was trying to get a service running did he give a straight forward message, hel emailed me yesterday and it was different then what he said in his post caught in another lie and sent it right to jack as proff of his lies. but you all know everything trust me you don't. but no skin off my back besides giving out plays i have gone way abovr that on this form, to get people show tickets fight tickets a ride to their resort when they were coming to vegas never turned my back on a single person, got people comp rooms or lower rates then they could get at some of the megas resorts, so don't refer to me as some service, and have put many hours into the super bowl parties setting them up each year, not as easy as youthink to get a privite party and ballroom during super bowl time as you might think,it takes many meetings with many different people and takes a good 6 months to get all the work done and approved, but think what you want, why don't you ask him yourself if he did not have a service link up in his thread a month ago and evened threatened the staff of this site not to remove his link which more then i saw, check into that one.

i don't need to bash anyone to gain a edge and i sure in the hell never brag over a win and if i had a bad day here or anywhere else it is said right in print.

will let you post up the baseball this year for me since i am not good enough to do so because I am a service so that makes me slime and a scammer, least i have always had the balls to be upfront , i was a service before madjacks and a pro gambler and will be long after i will leave at some point, this is extra work for me, trust me my house is paid for out here and in a nice upscale nighborhood due to my hard work not a bunch of bs posting. most ever book in town knows me and knows i am not a runner and the money i play is my own, and have even been cut down at stations casinos 2 years ago to 500 per play, so i know who i am and what i do.
 

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Sorry if I offended you. That was not the intent of my post. From following this board for the last 4 years it is very obvious to me you are a very stand up straight forward guy. I would really like to meet you and shake your hand. I'm sure your service is 100% honest, and if I ever did subscribe to one it would be yours. I have been doing this for over 25 years and I found out a long time ago it is best for me to live and die with my own plays.
My point I was trying to make is hellah has a right to his opinion and I wanted to hear his reasoning. I don't think any of us will ever know the whole story. I'm afraid he my be in a distressed state of mind and not thinking normally. If he is having problems I hope he can get them corrected.
Best of luck to everyone.
 

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hey so would i i use to like the kid and like I said worried about him, and even sent emails though others to see how he was, but since 4 months ago he has snapped and if he has problems which i could see , hell i did after hurricane andrew no sense in being afrauid to ask for help, i don't hate the kid, but the kid i knew for 3 years is not the same jid now, and people trying to act like they know everything about what has gone on is bs, not saying you, but i know 99% of what has gone on between here and him, his service and him and my plays and him, as well as the threats made towards adm people of this site about a link to a service, i always wished him well and he went off on a different omar the last 4 months, it started with things that don't need to be brought back up, emails to other people which got back to me, and just lies about things and service, hey i understand lot of slime out there in a service more slime 3-1 then good , but he started off the wrong way with that and still never has told the truth about it, so what people have tried it many times that is their right but few have made it, and then he post at a few places which were also sent to me that said he was kicked off the board and ran out of the site, and that is not true atall, he was ask to tone it down, it is all past and should move on i would be the first to help him if he ask even though he has got on my bad side, but it could be something he went through who knows, but when people chime in not saying you but others with out all the facts then they need to have, them, i have enough before i even said a word about him, but i have the facts to back it up or would never of called him out. i am with you if you have the time to work the games and can win on your own and learn then you should, but some people don't have the time or invest money and a good chunk on games that they do pay a service for if they feel they are a good service, hell i hit 58-595 over the year and that makes good money nfl hit almost 65% that will never IMO happen again, but he is far from the one being picked on , he started this by emails and im's to people and even post, and then the anti us govermnet syuff, that is why i think it is good to keep politics and reglion out of forms only causes a problem sooner or later in times like this, and we are not going to fix it like anyone listens to the little guys in the word, hell it will never be fixed, i am not the biggest backer of the feds but i do support my country and will if i can't then time for me to move to canada or one of theoslands off of fl and that is where i would go. but the funny thing is people always want to jump in before they know the real story, and there is a small part we will never know and maybe it is because he saw stuff he does not want anyone to know, but what i said i do know, let it go i am done with it, but to take the time to find out what i am posting before i post it and check my facts more then one time to make sure i am right. and i stand behind what i said in my post with out telling things and i also don't cut and paste emails others send me for all to see because what is sent to me is because the people have trust that i will not post it up on a form, it is between me and them the same as names and phone calls. i am not some hayseed who just fell off the truck i know the pro gaming business as well as i know my coaching , and i also know the service end and how people try and scam people all the time. and i have called many services out in print and on radio with cold hard facts.
 
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