no spin

[DOGS THAT BARK]

No Spin Appreciation

Monday, March 06, 2006

By Bill O'Reilly



Appreciating the "No Spin Zone," that is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."

You are being deceived every day by the media and I have scores of examples to prove it. Just this week a Zogby poll reported more than 50 percent of American forces in Iraq want to pull out within the next six months. That poll got a ton of media play.

But what you were not told was that the Center for Peace and Global Studies, which worked on the survey, is a hot bed of anti-Iraq war sentiment. The associate director of the center, which is located at Le Moyne College, is a man named Kenneth Watanpugh, who actually traveled to Iraq with Bianca Jagger to assess the damage the USA is allegedly doing. Wantanpugh is a far- left guy. So shouldn't the Zogby poll people have mentioned that?

How about an example on the right? A new study says that wives working outside the home are less satisfied with their marriages than stay-at-home wives. That got some press play this week as well.

But the co-author of the study is Bradford Wilcox, the University of Virginia professor, who works at the conservative Institute for American Values. Once again, that was not widely mentioned.

One more: The San Francisco Chronicle ran a story saying homosexuals are experiencing psychological and social harm because gay marriage is banned. The Chronicle cited the study by the National Sexuality Resource Center. And who funds that center? How about the far, far, far, far left, pro-gay marriage, Ford Foundation? Somehow The San Francisco Chronicle failed to mention that as well.

The point is the American press has become a conduit for propaganda. Standards have collapsed. Very few media outlets "police" reports for accuracy and fairness.

Nearly every day, we see newspapers and TV news programs using ideological Web sites as primary sources. The result is a massive deception, a distortion of the truth, as Americans are being duped by dishonest purveyors of information.

So what can be done to get you the truth? The answer is: nothing. No one oversees the media in this country. We are unsupervised from the outside.

So that's why the "No Spin Zone" concept was invented. We do our own reporting here and our own research. There are no agenda driven fanatics trying to fool you at this operation.

That's why the Kool-Aid drinkers on both sides despise us. We debunk them. ? They can't stand it. ? Three cheers for us. Hope you agree.

And that's "The Memo."

The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day

As you know, the movie "Brokeback Mountain" is the favorite to win best picture of the year on Sunday night. But the American Humane Association doesn't like the movie, saying it sends a "dangerous and wrong message."

Nothing to do with the people. The Humane Society say they've received complaints about excessively rough handling of the sheep and horses in the film. Also, an elk was apparently given some anesthesia.

I have no wise guy remarks about this, because there's no way I could win with any of that. So I'll leave it to you to fill in the blanks, including whether it's ridiculous or not. The elk...

 

[djv]

If were smart we believe about about 75% of all we here. Including Billy. He's knows how to do a little tape cutting and paragraph assembly as they all do. And any time he needs to pick on your buddy Hillary. He brings in Dick Morris with his same old story that most is spin.

 

[smurphy]

When I was a kid I was told that the more you repeat something, the more it isn't true. I do believe this applies to O'reilly's 'no spin'. He's about as much 'yes spin' as anyone.

I think he's getting desperate. He says' no spin' friggin 100 times every episode as it is. Now he has to make it his talking points? What a narcissistic moron.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Desperate??--The Harvard post-grad overtook King in 2001 as top dog and has steadly increased lead on ALL cable news networks since-most of time all networks collectively in his time slot.

Just think Smurph--don't you think its interesting to see how and where those poll results that were put up here week were derived at? I sure was--as I told Matt at the time--something was amiss on the #'s on military--as I said then there was no way those #'s were legit unless they polled NG and reserves.
Don't know about you but all I want is facts and I can sort out the BS for most part--on both sides of the fence.

 

[smurphy]

I agree - all I want is facts. If the only facts I was interested in were ones that made the left look bad and Bush good, then I'd watch O'Reilly exclusively. Hey - he and Fox in general make Bush supporters and republicans in general feel all warm and fuzzy because of the news they choose to exclude. That's fine. They give the customer what they want.

Basically, I'm just calling the proverbial spade a spade. O'Reilly is a narcisistic and hypocritical asswipe (don't forget how he bought his way out of that harrassment deal) much like Limbaugh. His full of spin and that's UNDENIABLE.

But again, that's OK because he's giving his audience what they want. That's free enterprise and it's wonderful. Just don't try and tell me that he's not a narcisistic hypocrital jerk full of spin. "No Spin Appreciation Day".....oh man, give me a break.

 

[dr. freeze]

When I was a kid I was told that the more you repeat something, the more it isn't true.

lol how many times have you told us that "Bush lied"?

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[Chadman]

This is another example of O'Reilly's "No Spin" spin. I mentioned in other threads that he generally puts up people who can be ridiculed for one thing or another to defend the liberal perspective. If anyone challenges him or is beating him in their controlled 3 minute time period, he trails off with commentary about them not dealing with the facts or some such thing, and dominates them until he gives them the last word - which he never has to answer to.

Look at the example in the "memo". He puts up Conservative talking point bastions like Iraq war sentiment of soldiers and the banning of gay marriage. He says how slanted those reports are, and galvanizes his listeners. What is his example of Right Wing deception? That all-important political hot potato regarding a new study that says wives working outside the home are less satisfied with their marriages than stay-at-home wives. We all know how important THAT issue is to all voters and his lap dog viewers, don't we?

Thanks for bringing out this all-inclusive essay from O'Reilly and showing us his no spin fairness, Wayne. He obviously is concerned with keeping it "real."

:mj10:

 

[smurphy]

lol how many times have you told us that "Bush lied"?

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

yes, yes. really not that funny. i forgot to add "about yourself" to the end of that. And for the most part, it's true. The more you boast or brag about your own quality, the less likely it is to be true.

 

[BetterUp]

The thing I admire O'Reilly most for is his no spin.




He comes right with pure bullshit. Not like those patsie lefties who just add a little spin.

 

[dawgball]

smurphy -- you gotta admit. that was pretty funny.

mj07

 

[smurphy]

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OK, now he's a liar again.

What's mj07, by the way?

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

sorry Smurphy, I hate to break it to you but If Bush lied then so did these people..........all Democrats.......


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

 

[Nick Douglas]

Thank you, DTB. This is why I love O'Reilly. I have felt the same way about the way journalists quote statistics from think tanks that are funded by radical political interests on both sides.

O'Reilly has been guilty in the past of glossing over the background of certain right wing groups that he supports (like the right wing alternative to the AARP) when he quotes studies and interviews people. Still, he does at least have the insight to see things such as this that may go unreported elsewhere.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

How do you feel about everyone calling Bush a liar when everyone else made the same assertions as Bush did Nick? (see list above)

 

[smurphy]

Manson, I never called Bush a liar regarding his belief that their were WMD's. It's great the way you assume everything though.

Bush lied when he said shortly after 9-11 that getting Osama was his top priority. He lied again when he said your either with us or against us in the war on terror.

Mostly, he's just incompetent and short-sighted. I don't call him out on his lack of honesty nearly as much as these other things.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

I guess liberating 2 terrorist nations from dictatorships and bringing freedom to 50 million people is "incompetence" huh?

What you liberals do not realize is that we cannot just go after one guy. We need to go after all threats. Everyone in Washington and all the world said Saddam had WMD's. For Bush to ignore that threat would have been irresponsible.

Hell even Clinton said regime change is the only option. Why do you think everyone voted to go to war?

Would you have preferred we only look for Bin Laden and ignore other threats? Nice thinking there lol. This is why a democrat can't get elected during wartime. You guys DONT THINK!

I'd rather have us in Iraq fighting Al Queda and killing them as opposed to allowing Saddam to develop WMDs, like Hillary, Bill, Gore, Pelosi, Kennedy, Durbin, Berger...said he was doing.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Murph----This is why Bush also went into Iraq...instead of only looking for Bin Laden and Bin Laden only.........

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA) Oct. 9, 2002


Get it now Kiddo???

 

[ctownguy]

Yes except for smurph's feeble attempt the silence is deafening :scared

 

[ImFeklhr]

What you liberals do not realize is that we cannot just go after one guy. We need to go after all threats. Everyone in Washington and all the world said Saddam had WMD's. For Bush to ignore that threat would have been irresponsible.

But, can we really afford (money/manpower) to go after every potential threat? We certainly can't afford to go after every dictator or cruel leader. We would be at war with 20 nations.

Obviously we can't just sit back and wait to be attacked, but are you ever concerned we are close to being on a very slippery slope?

 

[ctownguy]

But, can we really afford (money/manpower) to go after every potential threat? We certainly can't afford to go after every dictator or cruel leader. We would be at war with 20 nations.

Obviously we can't just sit back and wait to be attacked, but are you ever concerned we are close to being on a very slippery slope?

This is a very valid point. We have to pick and chose our fights and with what was posted above, this is where it was logical to take a stand at this time and place.