Hmm Have to give our liberal forum members a gold star on this one. Been waiting for 2 days for them to jump on NYT bandwagon but they were too smart as appears getting bitten on previous NYT agendas has takens it tolls on even the most ardent 
Here is NYT report for reference--
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/w...22a7a0971b08007f&ex=1159156800&pagewanted=all
Appears the heads of NIE have lined up to debunk their yet another leak by un-named source--as if we don't know where thats coming from.
Have 2 questions I'd like to ask NYT
1st if they like using NEI as source why use leak info out of context that has not been privvy to any media I am aware of yet totally ignore disclosed reports like below from NEI that doesn't fit their agenda.
"From NIE, circa 2002:
We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade. (See INR alternative view at the end of these Key Judgments.)
We judge that we are seeing only a portion of Iraq's WMD efforts, owing to Baghdad's vigorous denial and deception efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information. We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs (and here's the expanded CIA report here)
Fair and balanced
and in reading NYT article above I noticed their reference to "More recently, the Council on Global Terrorism, an independent research group of respected terrorism experts"
--and I thought who is this official sounding "independent " group I'd never heard of.
Did a little research and here are their "experts" from their website
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Council members convene on a regular basis to exchange information and discuss strategy in the struggle against terrorism.*
David Bradley
Atlantic Media Company
Washington, DC/USA
Lee Hamilton
Woodrow Wilson Center
Washington, DC/USA
Bruce Hoffman
Georgetown University
Washington, DC/USA
Brian Michael Jenkins
RAND
Santa Monica, CA/USA
Paul Pillar
Georgetown University
Washington, DC/USA
Xavier Raufer
University of Paris II
Paris/France
Walter Reich
George Washington University
Washington, DC/USA
Fernando Reinares
Rey Juan Carlos University
Elcano Royal Institute for International and Strategic Studies
Madrid/Spain
* Some members participate ex officio and, therefore, cannot be listed.
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Yep a real "independent crew with hands on experience
and one wonders why they again recently took big hit on circulation-ads revenue and stock price.
Here is NYT report for reference--
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/w...22a7a0971b08007f&ex=1159156800&pagewanted=all
Appears the heads of NIE have lined up to debunk their yet another leak by un-named source--as if we don't know where thats coming from.
Have 2 questions I'd like to ask NYT
1st if they like using NEI as source why use leak info out of context that has not been privvy to any media I am aware of yet totally ignore disclosed reports like below from NEI that doesn't fit their agenda.
"From NIE, circa 2002:
We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade. (See INR alternative view at the end of these Key Judgments.)
We judge that we are seeing only a portion of Iraq's WMD efforts, owing to Baghdad's vigorous denial and deception efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information. We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs (and here's the expanded CIA report here)
Fair and balanced
and in reading NYT article above I noticed their reference to "More recently, the Council on Global Terrorism, an independent research group of respected terrorism experts"
--and I thought who is this official sounding "independent " group I'd never heard of.
Did a little research and here are their "experts" from their website
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Council members convene on a regular basis to exchange information and discuss strategy in the struggle against terrorism.*
David Bradley
Atlantic Media Company
Washington, DC/USA
Lee Hamilton
Woodrow Wilson Center
Washington, DC/USA
Bruce Hoffman
Georgetown University
Washington, DC/USA
Brian Michael Jenkins
RAND
Santa Monica, CA/USA
Paul Pillar
Georgetown University
Washington, DC/USA
Xavier Raufer
University of Paris II
Paris/France
Walter Reich
George Washington University
Washington, DC/USA
Fernando Reinares
Rey Juan Carlos University
Elcano Royal Institute for International and Strategic Studies
Madrid/Spain
* Some members participate ex officio and, therefore, cannot be listed.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yep a real "independent crew with hands on experience
and one wonders why they again recently took big hit on circulation-ads revenue and stock price.
