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DOGS THAT BARK

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"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
 

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Really--don't believe Judges primary job job is disributing welfare unless things have changed.

You remind me of Biden and remark when asked about O marxist's ties--when he said are you serious?


"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."
--but then again Smurph-you got to follow your personal convictions--

Odd thing is all these go right along with his lifetimes associations but when he'll trow you unde the bus at drop of a hat to get elected.

You might want to go back to the Rev's statement before being tossed--I know him-he's telling you want you want to hear-not what he believes.
 

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Wayne:

You have often yacked about liberal courts and judges and I have constantly rebuffed your lies. Here is a recent article from US News and World Report.

As you can plainly see, 4 of the 5 most conservative justices since 1937 are currently serving on the US Supreme Court. The article below will point out how republican appointed justices tend to vote (more conservative) while justices appointed by democratic presidents do not.

What the country should really be scared about is McAncient appoint more justices in the vein of Scalia and Thomas. These two psycho's would ignore the constitution in favor of their own construction.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...g-the-politics-of-supreme-court-justices.html

By the way, don't mess with Posner, he is brilliant.

Eddie
 

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Wayne:

You have often yacked about liberal courts and judges and I have constantly rebuffed your lies. Here is a recent article from US News and World Report.

As you can plainly see, 4 of the 5 most conservative justices since 1937 are currently serving on the US Supreme Court. The article below will point out how republican appointed justices tend to vote (more conservative) while justices appointed by democratic presidents do not.

What the country should really be scared about is McAncient appoint more justices in the vein of Scalia and Thomas. These two psycho's would ignore the constitution in favor of their own construction.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...g-the-politics-of-supreme-court-justices.html

By the way, don't mess with Posner, he is brilliant.

Eddie

"Lies"--pretty strong coming from would be ambulance chaser who doesn't know pergury from a BJ.

It's Tuesday night--you better get be getting ready for your weekly --help me I'm a loser--get together--don't ya think. ;)

which reminds me--do you where same disguise there you wore to golf outing so no one can recognize you--as I'm sure you run into many potential clients there?
 
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"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

I think that - whether some of you like it or not - that these people in this country do deserve to be thought of in determining what the laws of the land should be. I know some of you would prefer these people don't have a voice, or a say, or a role, or even to be allowed to have any of these things, but, there are other countries that share that thinking. Maybe America isn't the best place for some of you "true Americans."

Of course, I'm guessing that this comment is taken as part of a larger commentary, and that Obama will not ONLY think of these things as the things he will base his opinion on. Of course, a couple of you will raise this as some kind of ultimate statement by him, and try to paint him as a freak that we should all be afraid of.

It's not working. But keep up the fight...you have a few days left.
 

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I think that - whether some of you like it or not - that these people in this country do deserve to be thought of in determining what the laws of the land should be. I know some of you would prefer these people don't have a voice, or a say, or a role, or even to be allowed to have any of these things, but, there are other countries that share that thinking. Maybe America isn't the best place for some of you "true Americans."

Of course, I'm guessing that this comment is taken as part of a larger commentary, and that Obama will not ONLY think of these things as the things he will base his opinion on. Of course, a couple of you will raise this as some kind of ultimate statement by him, and try to paint him as a freak that we should all be afraid of.

It's not working. But keep up the fight...you have a few days left.

I agree Chad-its just I don't think its supreme court or any court to dictate welfare.

--Believe Smurph and Matt's brother Sowell sys it better than I can--

Obama and the Law
By Thomas Sowell

One of the biggest and most long-lasting "change" to expect if Barack Obama becomes President of the United States is in the kinds of federal judges he appoints. These include Supreme Court justices, as well as other federal justices all across the country, all of whom will have lifetime tenure.

Senator Obama has stated very clearly what kinds of Supreme Court justices he wants-- those with "the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old."

Like so many things that Obama says, it may sound nice if you don't stop and think-- and chilling if you do stop and think. Do we really want judges who decide cases based on who you are, rather than on the facts and the law?

If the case involves a white man versus a black woman, should the judge decide that case differently than if both litigants are of the same race or sex?

The kind of criteria that Barack Obama promotes could have gotten three young men at Duke University sent to prison for a crime that neither they nor anybody else committed.

Didn't we spend decades in America, and centuries in Western civilization, trying to get away from the idea that who you are determines what your legal rights are?

What kind of judges are we talking about?

A classic example is federal Judge H. Lee Sarokin, who could have bankrupted a small New Jersey town because they decided to stop putting up with belligerent homeless men who kept disrupting their local public library. Judge Sarokin's rulings threatened the town with heavy damage awards, and the town settled the case by paying $150,000 to the leading disrupter of its public library.

After Bill Clinton became president, he elevated Judge Sarokin from the district court to the Circuit Court of Appeals. Would President Barack Obama elevate him-- or others like him-- to the Supreme Court? Judge Sarokin certainly fits Obama's job description for a Supreme Court justice.

A court case should not depend on who you are and who the judge is. We are supposed to be a country with "the rule of law and not of men."

Like all human beings, Americans haven't always lived up to our ideals. But Obama is proposing the explicit repudiation of that ideal itself.

That is certainly "change," but is it one that most Americans believe in? Or is it something that we may end up with anyway, just because too many voters cannot be bothered to look beyond rhetoric and style?

We can vote a president out of office at the next election if we don't like him. But we can never vote out the federal judges he appoints in courts across the country, including justices of the Supreme Court.

The kind of judges that Barack Obama wants to appoint can still be siding with criminals or terrorists during the lifetime of your children and grandchildren.

The Constitution of the United States will not mean much if judges carry out Obama's vision of the Constitution as "a living document"-- that is, something that judges should feel free to change by "interpretation" to favor particular individuals, groups or causes.

We have already seen where that leads with the 2005 Kelo Supreme Court decision that allows local politicians to take people's homes or businesses and transfer that property to others. Almost invariably, these are the homes of working class people and small neighborhood businesses that are confiscated under the government's power of eminent domain. And almost invariably they are transferred to developers who will build shopping malls, hotels or other businesses that will bring in more tax revenue.

The Constitution protected private property, precisely in order to prevent such abuses of political power, leaving a small exception when property is taken for "public use," such as the government's building a reservoir or a highway.

But just by expanding "public use" to mean "public purpose"-- which can be anything-- the Supreme Court opened the floodgates.

That's not "a living Constitution." That's a dying Constitution-- and an Obama presidency can kill it off.
 

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Geez....I would have thought following the Constitution and having the appropriate judicial qualifications would have been the top requirements. "Empathy" for the poor or those other things are noble ideas for a legisaltive or executive branch position, but frankly should be completely irrelevant for the Supreme Court.

Worse - arent we trying to become a society where race and gender and orientation arent supposed to matter? Dont those various groups say it shouldnt matter? But now Obama says "hey it does matter and you have to be in that group to understand." What a slippery slope...

Does a poor black man need 12 poor black men for jurors for it to be fair? Does the Enron guy need 12 white collar execs? And on and on and on...
 

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Cannot do any worse than the nominees Bush named that basically lied through their teeth at the confirmation hearings. Its good for the country to have the Supreme Court split right down the middle with one swing man or woman.
 

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Geez....I would have thought following the Constitution and having the appropriate judicial qualifications would have been the top requirements. .

Why do you assume they aren't top requirements? Nothing in his quote excludes that.
 

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Anyone else as excited as I am to carve up Sun Tzu's extra tax money?

You say that as if folks arent already carving up a shitload of my money.

It wouldnt be so bad if it all wasnt wasted.

I wish some Congressman or President would ahve the balls to say "we are starting with blank pages now lets figure out what to put in the budget." It would be cut in half -easily- because nobody would stand up and publicly support some of that shit

Of course did you see the inbterview with Biden last night. He is already backing off the tax plan...saying rasing taxes on the rich and cutting taxes and the poor (or paying handouts to people who dont pay taxes at all "wont be done immediately. It's a four year term."

They will wise up and realize what little economy thats left will get crushed by raising taxes, and also pull a 1992 Clinton and say "sorry, after i got here and looked ti over I just cant give you that tax cut I promised."

The sad thing Bobby is that tax cut - which isnt a cut but rather a relatively small check - will get more than eaten up byt the cost increases that will get passed on.

McCain's economic plan, such as it is, is very very bad. Obama's is a friggin disaster.
 
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"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

Where does Obama mention selecting judges to promote welfare ? I did not see anything in his statement that talkes about business as usual in the courts for people with the highest paid lawyers & influence..... The bigest welfare programs in America are not for the poor, Blacks, gays, or disabled.... The bigest government give aways go to the poorest majority & the richest minority.... LOOK IT UP.... The biggest welfare programs the last 8 yrs went to bankers, speculators, health care providers, big oil & military contractors & poor White People..... MONEY GOES TO MONEY, DOESN'T IT ? COME ON .... WIPE YOUR NOSE AND DO WHAT HARD WORKING AMERICANS DO ..... GO GET YOURS ! THIS IS AMERICA..... THERE IS PLENTY OUT THERE !!!
 

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THE FAR RIGHT IS STARTING TO SOUND AN AWFUL LOT LIKE THEIR BROTHERS ON THE EXTREME LEFT ! I have said it here many times, there is not much that seperates the anti Americans on the fringes, left or right..... Think about it.... These people don't care about Americans... All they care about is what they feel they are entitled to. What is the difference between entitlements for the rich & welfare for the poor ?
 

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Wayne:

I'll schleff (?) off the personal attack and indicate to you that its a little late for me to be a "would be ambulance chaser" after 26 years of this stuff. Either I am or I am not.

I also think the reference to the ga stuff was a little below the belt but I can handle it coming from a hillbilly like you.

Only wore the diguise for a few minutes at the golf outing. Not hiding from anyone. Was looking forward to talking to you afterwards but if you will recall, you were the one who failed to make the appearance.

Did you have a meeting that night? White sheets and all. After all we were in southern Indiana.

Eddie
 

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"Lies"--pretty strong coming from would be ambulance chaser who doesn't know pergury from a BJ.

It's Tuesday night--you better get be getting ready for your weekly --help me I'm a loser--get together--don't ya think. ;)

which reminds me--do you where same disguise there you wore to golf outing so no one can recognize you--as I'm sure you run into many potential clients there?

Wow, such an elitist attitude, you must be a Kentucky fan as well, and what is pergury, is that where you go when god doesn't know what to do with you kurby
 
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