Obama and the teleprompter

treynolds

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Of course we will ignor the fact that the Republicans had SIX years of total control and did nothing.

How was your life 2years ago? How about 4,6???
Thats my point our votes did not get into this situation. The democrats did.

Most obama supporters dont care about anything besides a new person in control. Obamas plans arnt going to work. More government. There will be no tax cuts give me a break, theres no way you can cut taxes when you want to try to do the things he is suggesting.

Look out here comes Herbert Hoover..... And were going to vote him into office?
 

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There will be no tax cuts give me a break, theres no way you can cut taxes when you want to try to do the things he is suggesting.

Is this some sort of a joke? Bush managed to cut taxes and he is the wildest spending president in history.

Of course, that's why our deficit is where it's at, but the trillion or so dollars that our Iraq adventure will have cost us before it's all said and done might have been better spent.

Invading, blowing up, occupying and rebuilding a banana republic that was abosultely no threat to us seems like a low priority type of thing. But that's just me.
 

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Is this some sort of a joke? Bush managed to cut taxes and he is the wildest spending president in history.

Of course, that's why our deficit is where it's at, but the trillion or so dollars that our Iraq adventure will have cost us before it's all said and done might have been better spent.

Invading, blowing up, occupying and rebuilding a banana republic that was abosultely no threat to us seems like a low priority type of thing. But that's just me.

Bush cut taxes but he wasnt trying to fund health care for everyone.

They were not a threat to us at the time, but we needed to start somewhere, we need to reform the policies of these countries in the middle east.
 

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Your a fuking moron. U and Al Davis need to go hang out for awhile and share all your conspiracy strories.

What are votes have gotten us into over the the last 8 years?

the problem isnt the votes the problem is people who didnt pay back thier home loans.

OUR VOTES??? Thanks for voting in the democrats to take over senate. Thats when shit started hitting the fan.

:director: You know im right

Yes, that is when it all started :mj07: Keep on hitting that crack pipe chief. If by any chance you were even right, which you are not, why didn't Bush vote to block all this so called stuff that has suddenly ruin the country? On the home loans. Boy it is so easy to blame the poor but with clowns like you not one of you will mention the greed on Wall Street. Are the poor also to blame for everyone's 401k's taking a hit or is that the Democrats fault also? When these people lost their homes they were not giving 20 to 100 million for foreclosing like the greed on Wall Street. Keep on blaming the poor. Not sure why you guys love blaming the poor all the time because Bushed loved the poor. He created millions and millions of them with his greedy policy's. Nothing personal.
 

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Hmmm. Thats interesting, yet your gonna vote for obama who only offers you hope.

I don't care about Obama either way. I'd vote for a tree stump this year over McCain(or any other republican candidate). If you're satisfied with the executive branch's performance of the last 8 years, then i'm happy for you, but i'm not satisfied. It's been a total clusterf*ck.

I say try something different and if it doesn't work out, try something else in 4 years.
 

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you call it idealistic or naive, id call myself a realist

A realist would understand that we can't change countries in the middle east.

Our so-called allies in Europe pretty much ignore us or go against us.

Do you really think we can swoop into a middle eastern country and change them into a peaceful, pro USA democracy?
 

treynolds

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I don't care about Obama either way. I'd vote for a tree stump this year over McCain(or any other republican candidate). If you're satisfied with the executive branch's performance of the last 8 years, then i'm happy for you, but i'm not satisfied. It's been a total clusterf*ck.

I say try something different and if it doesn't work out, try something else in 4 years.

Thats exactly why obama wins the election if he wins, nobody really cares if his policies can work or not. If mc cain was running agains a treestump he would probaly bearly be winning, just because no one really cares.

Sponge- i dont know much about you but im sure your just a dilusional old man. Everything bush has wanted to do has been blocked by congress since the democrats took over.
 

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A realist would understand that we can't change countries in the middle east.

Our so-called allies in Europe pretty much ignore us or go against us.

Do you really think we can swoop into a middle eastern country and change them into a peaceful, pro USA democracy?

Yes, take a look at iraq its happening. Im sure you were saying that it could happen in iraq 2 years ago.

Its just like any buisness you start or any project your working on car, boat, house, ect, ect. It always takes more time than you think it will, and it always takes more time than you would like it to.
 

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Sponge- i dont know much about you but im sure your just a dilusional old man. Everything bush has wanted to do has been blocked by congress since the democrats took over.

Oh i got it now, the Dems block Bush from dioing great things for the country like the last six years the Republicans were in charge. Good fuking grief. Am i being punked here?
 

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Thats exactly why obama wins the election if he wins, nobody really cares if his policies can work or not.


I don't know if his proposed policies will work or not. Do you?

What I *do* know is Obama is much more likely to get us out of that hellhole Iraq and is much less likely to attack Iran and further send this country spiraling downward.

All this crap from both of them about taxes, education, healthcare etc... I could care less about.

Iraq(and the likelyhood of further 'actions' in the ME) is really the only issue that matters to me.

I mean, all these promises that these guys make go right out the window after the election, so I don't waste my time parsing every word and every promise on every possible topic that they blabber on about.

Experts on the left say Obamas policies are possible, experts on the right say they aren't, and vice versa on McCains promises. It's all just empty rhetoric.
 

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Oh i got it now, the Dems block Bush from dioing great things for the country like the last six years the Republicans were in charge. Good fuking grief. Am i being punked here?

Look at all those vetos the Congress has over ridden! :142smilie :142smilie Unreal, but these Republican Hicks buy that crap.
 

kosar

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Yes, take a look at iraq its happening. Im sure you were saying that it could happen in iraq 2 years ago.

I said the same thing 2 years ago, 6 years ago, 4 years ago, that i'm saying today.

Once the last of our troops have left, Iraq will not be a pro America peaceful democracy.
 

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Oh i got it now, the Dems block Bush from dioing great things for the country like the last six years the Republicans were in charge. Good fuking grief. Am i being punked here?

Of course you are.......

All this time I've been telling people how smart the Sponge is.

I started to reply to this garbage,but I didn't want to be the guy that got punked.:mj07:
 

The Sponge

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Of course you are.......

All this time I've been telling people how smart the Sponge is.

I started to reply to this garbage,but I didn't want to be the guy that got punked.:mj07:

Hard don't say that to loud i have a lot of enemies in this joint :mj07: I got a new enemy trying to justify this war in Iraq trying to tell us now what great strides we have made. Here is and idea. How about not going there in the first place so we don't have to worry about great strides. There is no money in peace. these rat fuk neo-con made billions going into this occupation and these guys are to ignorant to realize it unless it was Clinton. If it was Clinton and his buddies robbing this country blind with this bullshit war i would torch that fuker to.
 

treynolds

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U guys shouldnt vote if your not gonna give both canadates a fair shake.

It is your right not to vote if your not gonna do the research on the canidate your gonna vote for.

I serously would not vote for mccain if i didnt think he was the better canidate. I wasnt planing on voting this election until i realized what a fake obama is. I honestly thought he was a good person until i did the research. One way or another, my buisness's have taken as big of a hit as it can and were gonna be fine one way or the other. Its not gonna be the end of the world either way.
 
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