Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3

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Maybe Obama is getting some balls. This will shake up the GOP supporters. :mj07:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078789-503544.html

President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

The Obama administration and many economists have warned of economic catastrophe if the United States does not raise the amount it is legally allowed to borrow by August 2.

Lawmakers from both parties want to use the threat of that deadline to work out a broader package on long-term deficit reduction, with Republicans looking to cut trillions of dollars in federal spending, while Democrats are pushing for a more "balanced approach," which would include both spending cuts and increased revenue through taxes.

The Debt Limit fight: A primer

Democratic and Republican lawmakers are expected to hold another round of negotiations with Mr. Obama at the White House Tuesday afternoon on long-term deficit reduction, though talks have yielded little results to date.

Mr. Obama told Pelley "this is not just a matter of Social Security checks. These are veterans checks, these are folks on disability and their checks. There are about 70 million checks that go out."

The interview will air Tuesday evening on the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley.

Mr. Obama's comments followed remarks from the Senate's top Republican, who said Tuesday that he did not see a way for Republicans and Democrats to come to agreement on meaningful deficit reduction as long as Mr. Obama remains in office.

"After years of discussions and months of negotiations, I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office, a real solution is probably unattainable," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in remarks on the Senate floor.

Still, McConnell said Republicans would "do the responsible thing" to avoid default, suggesting that a deal on the debt ceiling could be reached without a "real" deficit reduction package.

"The president has presented us with three choices: smoke and mirrors, tax hikes, or default. Republicans choose none of the above. I had hoped to do good, but I refuse to do harm. So Republicans will choose a path that actually reflects the will of the people, which is to do the responsible thing and ensure that the government doesn't default on its obligations," he said.

Mr. Obama has repeatedly said he wants a deal that would allow the U.S. to avoid confronting the issue again until after the 2012 elections and vowed on Monday that he would "not sign a 30-day or a 60-day or a 90-day extension."

"This the United States of America and, you know, we don't manage our affairs in three-month increments. You know, we don't risk U.S. default on our obligations because we can't put politics aside," Mr. Obama told reporters at the White House yesterday.
 

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Republicans think they have Obama black mailed. Do what we want, or we will let the government shut down.

I too hope he has grown a pair. If he'll just remember his history, Gingrich pulled something similar, Clinton called Gs bluff, and shortly thereafter Gingrich was out of a job.
 

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you even posting that link about ignorant no count black people over and over throws you completely off from the billionaires that have their hand in America's pockets and are laughing at ppl like you
through their teeth.

you are no better than that black woman asking for her rent to be paid.

you are the same.

congrats
 

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you even posting that link about ignorant no count black people over and over throws you completely off from the billionaires that have their hand in America's pockets and are laughing at ppl like you
through their teeth.

you are no better than that black woman asking for her rent to be paid.

you are the same.

congrats

hedgie needs to sit down and look in the mirror and come to terms with why his life is a mess. Then maybe he can start to make some changes. Until then, well.....
 

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No, SS is not in the red. It is currently very much in the green with $2 trillion in hand, and it will remain in the green through 2036 if no changes are made.

After that it will still be able to pay 75% of current benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/index.html

If action is taken now, only small changes are necessary for SS to remain solvent and pay full benefits as far into the future as can be predicted. A 1% increase in employer/employee payments will do the job, as will a tax on income above the present maximum of $106K. The problem cam also be solved with a small decrease in benefits such as using a different inflation index, or raising the retirement age one year. A small combination of those three things will make SS solvent forever, with little pain to anyone.


Hey Duff, quick question...you seem to have this social security mess down...if SS is truly "in the money" why would raising the debt matter? Shouldn't they be able to pay no problem with $2 Trillion in hand?

Thanks.
 

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Hey Duff, quick question...you seem to have this social security mess down...if SS is truly "in the money" why would raising the debt matter? Shouldn't they be able to pay no problem with $2 Trillion in hand?

Thanks.

Social Security is not included in the Federal operating budget. It puts nothing in the general fund, and takes nothing out. It is financially separate from all other government activity. Social Security has nothing to to with the debt, one way or another.

Over the past 70 years, SS has built up a large $2 trillion surplus. Revenues have always exceeded expenditures except for 1983 and this year.

Actuarial forecasts show SS spending down it's
surplus by 2036. If nothing is done, it will then be able to pay 75% of current levels after 2036.

So, something needs to be done to keep SS able to pay full benefits *forever*. A small FICA tax increase, 1%, will get the job done, as would an increase in retirement age of one year, if those things are done now. It is something the Congress should address. It is not a very difficult problem to solve.

But you're right, SS should not be part of a deficit reduction discussion. It has nothing to top with general fund receipts or expenses, and nothing to do with the debt.

Why is it being discussed? I donno', maybe because Obama wants a "Grand Plan" that addresses everything, maybe because the Republicans want to destroy it, maybe because both parties want to frighten people.

Obama's threat that SS checks might not go out on time is not based on any lack of money in the SS fund. It may be that he is threatening that Federal workers in another Department, like Treasury, might be furloughed and unavailable to write the checks.

It's any empty threat. Let old folks, who vote in high percentages, get their checks late, and they'll throw out ALL the bums in Washington.
 
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