obama vs obama
- Thread starter DOGS THAT BARK
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Which one do you agree with--
--and did you agree with funding pre election before flop or after flop
--Believe you were for his bringing troops home--we have more troops in Afgan/Iraq than day GW left office--which Gumby do you prefer
What about survailence--pre election or post flop
He's been in office over 3 months and gitmos still open for business--
What no tax increase for middle class? I guess Gumby's middle class or those that don't pay taxes.
era of responsibilty--small gov--pay as you go
I told you he was a grifter--listen to his speech to naacp--about half way through to the end--and close your eyes--sounds just like the rev.
"Can I get an amen brother" Where'd he get that "new accent overnite"
One thing about it--he'll always have a way out--either it was GW's fault--or I was for it before I was against. He's taken both sides to every arguement--but you were warned about that also--its the alternative to voting present.
Cant speak for anyone else but I prefer most of the later that you posted above if I was forced to choose. He obviously had no clue what being president consisted of when he was campaigning and said stuff that he probably believed at the time in order to get elected(havent seen an elected official yet that hasnt used this approach). Much like the childless parent that says "my kids will never do that" he quickly found out that giving lip service and what is in the best intrest of the country doesnt always match. If he wants to go back on some of the things he said then good for him that he has enough to him to accept the consequences because as we learned with bush the 1st, regardless if you feel it is right for the country or not, when you start reversing course on campaign promises you become a 1 term president. He could survive this if the economy is rolling again by 2012, but does anyone really see that happening. As much as I disagree with most of what he believes in, I will give him the same credit I gave bush for doing what he felt was right, even if it was unpopular. People dont like that, then put someone else in office in 4 years:shrug:
I thought there wasn't enough stimulus as soon as it was passed. Probably on record for that. And there is no flip flop in that video you posted, but you probably knew that
We'll have a base in Iraq for the next 100 years and we'd be dumb not to
pre election - I'm just wondering why your complaining about it
He's been in office over 3 months and gitmos still open for business--
Still no tax increase under the definitions that you've posted on the amount of people that pay taxes over and over and over again . . . I'm not sure why you're changing midstream. . . . .well, I know why, but it would help your argument if you would stay consistent
not the time for a balanced budget
ummm...:shrug:
You ask on which candidate the libs were for? the pre-election or post-election Obama. You ever gonna say which Obama you're against? pre- or post-? or is the one characteristic that you really don't like about him remained constant?
The Obama I am against is same one I told you pre election
--no experience or qualifications.
Only thing I could gauge him on was
-- his record in senate
--how he got to politics--and the associates responsible
--what were his accomplishments pre politics
--commmunty organizer/acorn cronie
Can be summed up in phrase I'm sure you'll remember--all hat no cattle
The Tony Robbins of politics
--Tell em what they want to hear--
He had most liberal record in senate --and has proved in 6 months to be most liberal pres--taking the tax and spend to uncharted areas.
on his flops--I certainly have been most those regarding security issues--but believe he had little choice as the powers that be explained to him in no uncertain terms--this in not the land of oz he envisioned pre election.
Can't see any suprises in his basic agenda--
he used stimulus (never let a good crisis go to waste) to support his liberal agenda sliding 1/3 of 700+ billion to non stimulating social programs--and certainly no surprise who'd be the recipient-
Matt might have to take back his vote as Gumby put Fla (reeling from real estate/tourism crunch) as low state on totum pole at about $500 per capita--
---any guess on who's # 1 @ over $3,000 per capita--use a little logic--
--Wash DC--how fcking predictible.
Oh by the way Bobby--Yes you did
--no experience or qualifications.
Only thing I could gauge him on was
-- his record in senate
--how he got to politics--and the associates responsible
--what were his accomplishments pre politics
--commmunty organizer/acorn cronie
Can be summed up in phrase I'm sure you'll remember--all hat no cattle
The Tony Robbins of politics
--Tell em what they want to hear--
He had most liberal record in senate --and has proved in 6 months to be most liberal pres--taking the tax and spend to uncharted areas.
on his flops--I certainly have been most those regarding security issues--but believe he had little choice as the powers that be explained to him in no uncertain terms--this in not the land of oz he envisioned pre election.
Can't see any suprises in his basic agenda--
he used stimulus (never let a good crisis go to waste) to support his liberal agenda sliding 1/3 of 700+ billion to non stimulating social programs--and certainly no surprise who'd be the recipient-
Matt might have to take back his vote as Gumby put Fla (reeling from real estate/tourism crunch) as low state on totum pole at about $500 per capita--
---any guess on who's # 1 @ over $3,000 per capita--use a little logic--
--Wash DC--how fcking predictible.
Oh by the way Bobby--Yes you did
On putting the stimulus into social problems. Because of unemployment that money had to go to social problems as more families depended on them due to unemployment and no money coming in due to the recession.
I am not an Obama fan but what is right is right. If we keep believing these lies being spread by the neocons we will never recover.
Is he making a mistake in Iraq and Afghan yes he is. Get out now. Bomb the crap out of them if he wants but no need for boots on the ground.
He needs to focus on helpingthe middle class because they are the ones that spend money and keep the economy going.
He needs to stop reaching out to the Republicans. Who cares what they think we voted them out.
I am not an Obama fan but what is right is right. If we keep believing these lies being spread by the neocons we will never recover.
Is he making a mistake in Iraq and Afghan yes he is. Get out now. Bomb the crap out of them if he wants but no need for boots on the ground.
He needs to focus on helpingthe middle class because they are the ones that spend money and keep the economy going.
He needs to stop reaching out to the Republicans. Who cares what they think we voted them out.
