Obamacare is a big government boondoggle

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Soaring costs, assaults on privacy, and a nanny state gone wild

Paul Joseph Watson
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October 18, 2013

Obamacare is a big government boondoggle that will empower the nanny state to extort, intimidate, harass and surveil Americans like never before. Here are ten ways in which the Obamacare train wreck is screwing the American people.Image: Wikimedia Commons.

1) Research by the Manhattan Institute documents how average insurance rate premiums will rise 99 per cent for men and 62 per cent for women under Obamacare. In states like North Carolina, men face a whopping 305 per cent average rate hike, whereas women in Nebraska will be paying on average 237 per cent more. Studies by the Congressional Budget Office found that some Americans will face premium increases of 203% under Obamacare. The new law will increase health care spending by over $7000 for a typical family of four. When we asked Americans on Facebook and Twitter if their costs would be higher or lower under Obamacare, virtually all said they would be paying significantly more.

2) The Obama administration claims that federal subsidies will counteract these rate hikes, but according to health care expert Avik Roy that?s simply not true. ?You hear all these excuses from the [Obama] administration ? that people are exaggerating the effect of the law,? Roy told CBS News. ?But real people are getting notices from their insurers now. My blog is flooded with comments from people saying that they just got a huge premium hike,?

3) The Obama administration lied to the American people when it claimed that existing health insurance plans could be kept. Obama?s promise that, ?If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what,? was complete baloney. Americans across the country are being informedthat their existing health care plans are being canceled because of ?changes from health care reform (also called the Affordable Care Act or ACA).? ?The promise that you could keep your old policy, if you liked it, has proved illusory, writes Kathy Kristof. ?My insurer, Kaiser Permanente, informed me in a glossy booklet that ?At midnight on December 31, we will discontinue your current plan because it will not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act.? My premium, the letter added, would go from $209 a month to $348, a 66.5 percent increase that will cost $1,668 annually.?

4) Numerous analysts have concluded that the complete train wreck that was the launch of Healthcare.gov was in fact designed to fail in order to avoid a sudden backlash from Americans irate at the massive premium increases. Online database experts say the system wasn?t even tested before it was launched. ?So far, the Affordable Care Act?s launch has been a failure. Not ?troubled.? Not ?glitchy.? A failure,? wrote the Washington Post?s Ezra Klein. Even CNN?s Wolf Blitzer said it should be delayed for a year. Only about 1 out of every 100 people who have attempted to enroll for a health care plan (if they could even access the website in the first place) have been successful.

5) For those Americans who are able to enroll in Obamacare, they are putting their private information at the mercy of hackers and NSA spies. IP addresses, social security numbers, private bank account details, employer details, email addresses and passwords are all being uploaded to a shoddily designed database that is wide open to penetration, and the record can never be deleted. ?Obamacare is the meta-level con of tricking Americans into thinking they?re signing up for free health insurance when, in reality, the website primarily exists to scrape personal financial details, passwords, emails and social security numbers from Americans who will later be targeted by the government itself,? writes Mike Adams.

6) As a result of Obamacare, the general precedent has now been set, thanks to last year?s Supreme Court ruling, that the federal government has the power to force Americans to purchase private goods and services. What?s next? Will the government force Americans to buy a certain brand of ?eco-friendly? vehicle only? Will the feds force Americans to buy ?licenses? to watch television, as happens in the UK? The door has now been opened with potentially disastrous consequences for financial freedom and the cancerous growth of big government.

7) Obamacare provides the IRS with a new justification to hunt down Americans deemed to be evading the new system. While claiming that the IRS will not target Americans who don?t sign up, the administration last year directed $500 million to the IRS ?to help implement the president?s healthcare law.? With the IRS already claiming the power to prevent Americans who are merely under investigation from leaving the country, a House Ways and Means Committee study last year concluded that 16,500 new IRS agents would be hired to oversee the nearly two dozen tax levies imposed by Obamacare.

8) Many small businesses are firing workers and scaling back working hours in a desperate effort to avoid exorbitant Obamacare costs. Whereas giant companies like McDonalds have received waivers, almost half of small businesses said they froze hiring as a result of the Affordable Care Act and one fifth said they had been forced to fire workers. Numerous companies announced last year that they would be laying off hundreds of employees. Many businesses are also reducing the number of hours their employees work in order to avoid Obamacare mandates. According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Obamacare will be a disaster for the US economy, expanding the deficit by billions of dollars every year and ?further spiraling America into an uncontrollable debt.?

9) Other small businesses have chosen to close down entirely. A chiropractic clinic in Pennsylvania was forced to close down as a result of receiving reduced payments from insurance companies thanks to Obamacare. CiCi?s Pizza franchise owner Bob Westford pointed out that the additional $221,000 in taxes as a result of Obamacare was $78,000 more than the combined profit of his three restaurants, making the decision to shut up shop a no brainer.

10) The only entities that seem to be benefiting from Obamacare are giant insurance companies, who have all seen their stock prices soarover the last three years. That?s unsurprising given that it was the insurance companies who wrote the foundational document for Obamacare in the first place.
 

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Obamacare is taking shape and will save us money over the long run.


I like the plan my wife and I have and its less than years ago.



maybe you want to revert back to where insurance companys deny pre existing conditions and the rates to get insurance were impossible.



or when the politicians lined their money grubbing pockets under the table with insurance money lobby money year after year. Billions were made and it was not the American people who came out ahead. The dirty fuckers.


good concept though Ronnie


I notice the debates they dont say anything anymore about Obamacare.

They dont have a better plan is why. The dumb asses.
 

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Soaring costs, assaults on privacy, and a nanny state gone wild

Paul Joseph Watson
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October 18, 2013

Obamacare is a big government boondoggle that will empower the nanny state to extort, intimidate, harass and surveil Americans like never before. Here are ten ways in which the Obamacare train wreck is screwing the American people.Image: Wikimedia Commons.

1) Research by the Manhattan Institute documents how average insurance rate premiums will rise 99 per cent for men and 62 per cent for women under Obamacare. In states like North Carolina, men face a whopping 305 per cent average rate hike, whereas women in Nebraska will be paying on average 237 per cent more. Studies by the Congressional Budget Office found that some Americans will face premium increases of 203% under Obamacare. The new law will increase health care spending by over $7000 for a typical family of four. When we asked Americans on Facebook and Twitter if their costs would be higher or lower under Obamacare, virtually all said they would be paying significantly more.

2) The Obama administration claims that federal subsidies will counteract these rate hikes, but according to health care expert Avik Roy that?s simply not true. ?You hear all these excuses from the [Obama] administration ? that people are exaggerating the effect of the law,? Roy told CBS News. ?But real people are getting notices from their insurers now. My blog is flooded with comments from people saying that they just got a huge premium hike,?

3) The Obama administration lied to the American people when it claimed that existing health insurance plans could be kept. Obama?s promise that, ?If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what,? was complete baloney. Americans across the country are being informedthat their existing health care plans are being canceled because of ?changes from health care reform (also called the Affordable Care Act or ACA).? ?The promise that you could keep your old policy, if you liked it, has proved illusory, writes Kathy Kristof. ?My insurer, Kaiser Permanente, informed me in a glossy booklet that ?At midnight on December 31, we will discontinue your current plan because it will not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act.? My premium, the letter added, would go from $209 a month to $348, a 66.5 percent increase that will cost $1,668 annually.?

4) Numerous analysts have concluded that the complete train wreck that was the launch of Healthcare.gov was in fact designed to fail in order to avoid a sudden backlash from Americans irate at the massive premium increases. Online database experts say the system wasn?t even tested before it was launched. ?So far, the Affordable Care Act?s launch has been a failure. Not ?troubled.? Not ?glitchy.? A failure,? wrote the Washington Post?s Ezra Klein. Even CNN?s Wolf Blitzer said it should be delayed for a year. Only about 1 out of every 100 people who have attempted to enroll for a health care plan (if they could even access the website in the first place) have been successful.

5) For those Americans who are able to enroll in Obamacare, they are putting their private information at the mercy of hackers and NSA spies. IP addresses, social security numbers, private bank account details, employer details, email addresses and passwords are all being uploaded to a shoddily designed database that is wide open to penetration, and the record can never be deleted. ?Obamacare is the meta-level con of tricking Americans into thinking they?re signing up for free health insurance when, in reality, the website primarily exists to scrape personal financial details, passwords, emails and social security numbers from Americans who will later be targeted by the government itself,? writes Mike Adams.

6) As a result of Obamacare, the general precedent has now been set, thanks to last year?s Supreme Court ruling, that the federal government has the power to force Americans to purchase private goods and services. What?s next? Will the government force Americans to buy a certain brand of ?eco-friendly? vehicle only? Will the feds force Americans to buy ?licenses? to watch television, as happens in the UK? The door has now been opened with potentially disastrous consequences for financial freedom and the cancerous growth of big government.

7) Obamacare provides the IRS with a new justification to hunt down Americans deemed to be evading the new system. While claiming that the IRS will not target Americans who don?t sign up, the administration last year directed $500 million to the IRS ?to help implement the president?s healthcare law.? With the IRS already claiming the power to prevent Americans who are merely under investigation from leaving the country, a House Ways and Means Committee study last year concluded that 16,500 new IRS agents would be hired to oversee the nearly two dozen tax levies imposed by Obamacare.

8) Many small businesses are firing workers and scaling back working hours in a desperate effort to avoid exorbitant Obamacare costs. Whereas giant companies like McDonalds have received waivers, almost half of small businesses said they froze hiring as a result of the Affordable Care Act and one fifth said they had been forced to fire workers. Numerous companies announced last year that they would be laying off hundreds of employees. Many businesses are also reducing the number of hours their employees work in order to avoid Obamacare mandates. According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Obamacare will be a disaster for the US economy, expanding the deficit by billions of dollars every year and ?further spiraling America into an uncontrollable debt.?

9) Other small businesses have chosen to close down entirely. A chiropractic clinic in Pennsylvania was forced to close down as a result of receiving reduced payments from insurance companies thanks to Obamacare. CiCi?s Pizza franchise owner Bob Westford pointed out that the additional $221,000 in taxes as a result of Obamacare was $78,000 more than the combined profit of his three restaurants, making the decision to shut up shop a no brainer.

10) The only entities that seem to be benefiting from Obamacare are giant insurance companies, who have all seen their stock prices soarover the last three years. That?s unsurprising given that it was the insurance companies who wrote the foundational document for Obamacare in the first place.

Cd have been better if Dumb Fuck Republicans hadnt blocked a single payer health system like the rest of the world has. But it's way better than the dumb fucks plan *** Die Quickly ******
 
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what a great down to earth man with a great sense of humor


what a great President
 

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what a great down to earth man with a great sense of humor


what a great President

Worst, Most anti-American President EVER!!!
 

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yeh we know , he is a muslim in your head


keep listening to hannity, rush, etc to get your ideas

HA! You have no idea how wrong you are!
Maybe if you would go out and get a job you could find better healthcare than Obamacare.
Keep sucking off of Barry's teet like a sheep :mj07:
 

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There's a young woman in North Platte, Nebraska, whose ex doesn't pay child support. She hugs Cruz and says, "I'm a single mom? I've got six kids at home, and I'm working five jobs. Not a single one of those jobs is even thirty hours per week, because Obamacare kicks in at thirty hours a week." The really difficult questions to answer would have been whether a single mother of six children would qualify for significant amounts of aid, and especially whether she would have qualified for the Medicaid expansion if conservatives in the Nebraskan legislature had not rejected it, so of course the questions are not asked. Not even when he mentions the millions still without insurance, who might also live in Nebraska, or Florida, or Texas, or Louisiana, or Alabama, or Mississippi or many other conservative-controlled states that rejected the Medicaid expansion.

And, in any event, there are the familiar dual horrors of rising premiums and Obama saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." Naturally, Cruz ignores that premiums rose before Obamacare, that insurance companies Chicken Little all the time about rate hikes before rolling them back, and that part of the rise relates to people who are actually sick being able to get medical care that insurance companies actually have to pay for now.

On that last point, for a litigator, Cruz seems really allergic to using a wonderful legal word like "rescission," which is too bad, because it explains rate hikes and changing plans. Simply put, before Obamacare, when insurance companies could rescind your contract the moment you needed costly treatment after paying for years, it was very easy to have a cheap plan you'd want to keep. Those great plans with low premiums stopped existing when the law required that they benefit more than one party in the contract. But mentioning that would spoil the image of poor insurance companies that Cruz suggests were "lured into bed with Obamacare" via the Leninist thinking that "the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." Poor butterflies.

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dirty rat bastid
 

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There's a young woman in North Platte, Nebraska, whose ex doesn't pay child support. She hugs Cruz and says, "I'm a single mom? I've got six kids at home, and I'm working five jobs. Not a single one of those jobs is even thirty hours per week, because Obamacare kicks in at thirty hours a week." The really difficult questions to answer would have been whether a single mother of six children would qualify for significant amounts of aid, and especially whether she would have qualified for the Medicaid expansion if conservatives in the Nebraskan legislature had not rejected it, so of course the questions are not asked. Not even when he mentions the millions still without insurance, who might also live in Nebraska, or Florida, or Texas, or Louisiana, or Alabama, or Mississippi or many other conservative-controlled states that rejected the Medicaid expansion.

And, in any event, there are the familiar dual horrors of rising premiums and Obama saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." Naturally, Cruz ignores that premiums rose before Obamacare, that insurance companies Chicken Little all the time about rate hikes before rolling them back, and that part of the rise relates to people who are actually sick being able to get medical care that insurance companies actually have to pay for now.

On that last point, for a litigator, Cruz seems really allergic to using a wonderful legal word like "rescission," which is too bad, because it explains rate hikes and changing plans. Simply put, before Obamacare, when insurance companies could rescind your contract the moment you needed costly treatment after paying for years, it was very easy to have a cheap plan you'd want to keep. Those great plans with low premiums stopped existing when the law required that they benefit more than one party in the contract. But mentioning that would spoil the image of poor insurance companies that Cruz suggests were "lured into bed with Obamacare" via the Leninist thinking that "the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." Poor butterflies.

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dirty rat bastid

Cruz is a United States Senator from TEXAS, not a Nebraska State Legislator, ya big dummy.
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What would you replace the Affordable Care Act with Skully ?? Yeah i know like all the Dumb Republican Fucks the last 50 years ...



Duh ???????????????????

Healthcare was and is out of control, you think single payer is the answer, maybe it is, but LYING and changing House and Senate RULES to pass it, didn't seem like the right answer, I think there are smarter people, that don't have SKIN in the GAME, that could make it work for EVERYONE, something had to be done and maybe it had to get this bad to do it.

You can keep your plan
You can keep your doctor
You will save 2500 a year


ALL LIES!!!!
 

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You can keep your plan
You can keep your doctor
You will save 2500 a year


ALL LIES!!!!



obamacare is much better than no pre existing

insurance rate quote of 4 K a mth

insurance co paying politicians under the old table

corruption

millions without insurance at all


tell me more

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obamacare is much better than no pre existing

insurance rate quote of 4 K a mth

insurance co paying politicians under the old table

corruption

millions without insurance at all


tell me more

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Scooter, we all know that the whole Obama scheme revolves around transitioning to single payer, why wouldn't they just set up a program for the uninsured/uninsurable?
 

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WASHINGTON -- At long last, congressional Republicans have honored a pledge to conservatives and repealed President Barack Obama's landmark health care reform plan. Sort of.
A mere 2,116 days after Obama signed the Affordable Care Act, the House voted 240-181 Wednesday on a Senate-passed measure to eliminate the most important parts of Obamacare.
Republican leaders are portraying the move as a promise fulfilled after dozens of previous House votes to repeal, defund or otherwise trash the Affordable Care Act. And the bill heading to the White House would indeed kill vital parts of the law, such as its health insurance subsidies, its expansion of Medicaid to low-income adults and the mandates that most Americans get health coverage and that large employers provide it to workers.
The next thing that will happen is the repeal bill will speed its way to Obama's desk, where he will promptly veto it and carry on with whatever else he was doing.
Self-congratulatory press conferences won't change the fact that Republicans haven't actually repealed anything and are nowhere near proposing their long-awaited "replacement" plan, despite new pledges from House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and other leaders.

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As history shows, declaring "Mission Accomplished" isn't the same as accomplishing the mission. This also applies to congressional Republicans' attempts to repeal Obamacare.
In the meantime, millions of Americans will continue enrolling in health insurance on the law's exchange marketplaces, and millions more will keep using the health plans and Medicaid benefits they already have.
Republicans took over the House in 2011 and the Senate in 2014. GOP leaders in both chambers spent months last year hashing out this repeal bill and negotiating with the Senate parliamentarian about what they could put in it. They passed it three times (first in the House, then in the Senate, and now in the House again). But all they'll have to show for it is a stack of paper with the president's veto on it.
Repeal diehards told their supporters they could force Obama to cave on the Affordable Care Act, which they attempted to do when they shut down the government and threatened to withhold a debt limit increase and default on the country's debts. But Obama was never going to sign a bill that eliminated his signature domestic policy achievement -- especially one so tied to his presidency that it's been unofficially named after him.
And although finally sending a repeal bill all the way to the White House may look like a victory in the War on Obamacare, it's a hollow one at best. Conservative voters won't be satisfied with just a veto, and everyone is still waiting for Republicans to propose a replacement, not simply kick people off the health insurance rolls and increase the ranks of the uninsured by 24 million over 10 years.
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what a complete waste of time.


why cant they spend time on coming up with something better. doogy duhhhhhhh
 

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama notified Congress on Friday that he has vetoed their legislation to repeal huge parts of the Affordable Care Act, because of course he did.
Republicans celebrated this week after finally managing to push a repeal bill through the House and Senate for the first time, reveling in their impending failure to actually achieve anything. Obama just officially ended the party.
"Republicans in the Congress have attempted to repeal or undermine the Affordable Care Act over 50 times. Rather than refighting old political battles by once again voting to repeal basic protections that provide security for the middle class, Members of Congress should be working together to grow the economy, strengthen middle-class families, and create new jobs," Obama wrote in a message to Congress. "Because of the harm this bill would cause to the health and financial security of millions of Americans, it has earned my veto."
Congress intends to continue beating this dead horse anyway, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) made clear in a press release responding to the president.
"It?s no surprise that someone named Obama vetoed a bill repealing Obamacare," he said. "But we will hold a vote to override this veto, taking this process all the way to the end under the Constitution."
Americans may have hoped the latest of dozens of repeal votes would be the prelude to the GOP offering a health care reform platform of their own, but Republicans on Capitol Hill were quick to disabuse them of that notion, as this Politico report shows:
Senior House Republican aides and lawmakers say they do not plan to hold votes on many of the agenda items the party plans to unveil -- such as a health care plan to replace Obamacare, or tax reform -- because of a tight legislative calendar over the next few months and the reality that none of the bills would be signed by the president, anyway.
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what losers to waste more time on something they cannot do a fucking thing about


wait until Donald is President , he will fire all these worthless corksoakers.

its pathetic
 

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The one good thing Romney ever did was have single payer {He Put it in place single payer in Mass} 97 % are covered to this day. The entire 1st world has single payer coverage..Israel made it its 1st order of business when it became a state. Germany covers 100% of their citizens for 1/2 the cost we paid to have covered less than 70 %. The problems with Obama Care are 100 % due to Republicans. The Republicans have kept us in a 3rd world status for 70 years. Hurry Up And Die....Republican Health Care Plan.
 
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