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it's 3rd and 25 with a minute to play. Quarterback Bush goes back to pass. He fumbles, picks up the ball and runs the wrong way. He runs out of bounds on his one yard line. But he turns his ankle. New QB Obama comes in for one last play. It's fourth and 62 for a first down and he has to go 99 yards for a touchdown. He takes the snap and throws a hail mary. It get caught 60 yards down field. The receiver gets tackled as time expires. DTB blames Obama for the loss.:mj07:
believe he got elected 5 months ago--
Let me give you a hint on Da Base who voted on hope and change vs the productive.

Day he got elected you saw market reflect (with record drop) on financials worlds hopes on anticipated change.

Fast forward from day he got elected to today's headlines--

-663,000: Unemployment Rate Reaches 25-Year High of 8.5%...

--and you can book it- we hit double digit by July.

Why- What small business is going to expand with income tax increase-possibilty of carbon tax-mandatory wage increase again in june-etc

--believe me you and Da Base are only ones got any reason to be :00hour so far.

--but your going to have a small prob down the road ;)
 

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believe he got elected 5 months ago--
Let me give you a hint on Da Base who voted on hope and change vs the productive.

Day he got elected you saw market reflect (with record drop) on financials worlds hopes on anticipated change.

Fast forward from day he got elected to today's headlines--

-663,000: Unemployment Rate Reaches 25-Year High of 8.5%...

--and you can book it- we hit double digit by July.

Why- What small business is going to expand with income tax increase-possibilty of carbon tax-mandatory wage increase again in june-etc

--believe me you and Da Base are only ones got any reason to be :00hour so far.

--but your going to have a small prob down the road ;)

Let me give you a hint. You are seeing the results of the faiiled Bush policies of 8 long years. This meltdown started before Obama was elected. Do you remember McCain shutting his campaign down? Yes both Obama and McCain voted for the final Bush tax grab called the bailout. You might remember it....the bailout with no questions asked what the base does with the money.

We are going to have many problems down the road.
 

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it's 3rd and 25 with a minute to play. Quarterback Bush goes back to pass. He fumbles, picks up the ball and runs the wrong way. He runs out of bounds on his one yard line. But he turns his ankle. New QB Obama comes in for one last play. It's fourth and 62 for a first down and he has to go 99 yards for a touchdown. He takes the snap and throws a hail mary. It get caught 60 yards down field. The receiver gets tackled as time expires. DTB blames Obama for the loss.:mj07:


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it's 3rd and 25 with a minute to play. Quarterback Bush goes back to pass. He fumbles, picks up the ball and runs the wrong way. He runs out of bounds on his one yard line. But he turns his ankle. New QB Obama comes in for one last play. It's fourth and 62 for a first down and he has to go 99 yards for a touchdown. He takes the snap and throws a hail mary. It get caught 60 yards down field. The receiver gets tackled as time expires. DTB blames Obama for the loss.:mj07:
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thats funny , I got to do one like that.
 

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DTB is attending a major league ball game.


it's the ninth inning the score is 9-6 .

George W's team is behind by 3 runs.

George W is playing third base. In the course of the game George W has booted 4 easy outs and
and has gone 0-3. He also hit into two double plays and has 4 errors allowing runs to score.

George W comes up to the plate with the bases loaded. He stirkes out on 3 pitchs. There is now 2 outs. His average drops to .145

Last chance is Obama who steps into the batters box. Obama hits the first pitch deep into left center field, the center fielder runs hard and leaps and catchs the ball just as its about to go over the fence.

DTB stands and screams ................
 
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DTB stands up and screams

Obama you fawktard
 

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A couple observations - apparently Wayne has thrown caution to the wind and is applying complete blame on the current unemployment and economic problems on Obama, and I remember all too well nearly all the blame for the economic downturn during the early Bush months and years were mainly due to the problems left from the Clinton administration.

:SIB

I guess it's all about who's political ox is being Gore'd at the time, eh?

Secondly, the thing Wayne singles out as Obama's 1st actual accomplishment to occur was one very small part of a huge stimulus package which included many different programs and undertakings. Any political gain to be had from that bit of fuzzy calendar watching?

Keep up the good work, bud. :D
 

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got to agree chad

DTB thinks GOP first above all

and intelligent thought and logical conclusions never to be seen the light of daytime
 

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A couple observations - apparently Wayne has thrown caution to the wind and is applying complete blame on the current unemployment and economic problems on Obama, and I remember all too well nearly all the blame for the economic downturn during the early Bush months and years were mainly due to the problems left from the Clinton administration.

:SIB

I guess it's all about who's political ox is being Gore'd at the time, eh?

Secondly, the thing Wayne singles out as Obama's 1st actual accomplishment to occur was one very small part of a huge stimulus package which included many different programs and undertakings. Any political gain to be had from that bit of fuzzy calendar watching?

Keep up the good work, bud. :D

I know what he inheired Chad--and I know whats occurred since he's been elected--as I mentioned--you'd figure things would have began to abate if anyone on the productive side had same hope as the non-productive--

Glad to see you participating in this thread as I would like to get opinion from objective person on the other side--other than these "this is era of responsibilty/its bushes fault--obie clones.:)

What has Obama passed that is advantageous to business's that would make them optomistic on expanding.

I can think of one and made note of same when he finally got around to doing the obvious after hearding his social plans through 1st.
 

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GORDON Brown yesterday forced the world?s richest countries to stump up $1TRILLION to kick-start global growth.

He strong-armed America, China, Japan, the EU and nations from across the planet into historic action at a gruelling G20 summit.


And afterwards the Prime Minister declared: ?This is the day the world came together to fight back against the global recession ? not with words, but with a plan for global recovery and reform.?

He added: ?I think a new world order is emerging with the foundations of a new progressive era of international co-operation.?

US President Barack Obama, who attended the summit in London?s Docklands, hailed it as ?a turning point in our pursuit of global economic recovery?.

He compared the G20 leaders to doctors dealing with a difficult case, saying: ?We have got a sick patient ? I think we applied the right medicine. I think the patient has stabilised.

Movers and sheikhers ... national leaders line up for group photo at the summit on 'the day the world came together'

?There are still wounds that have to heal and still emergencies that could arise. But I think that we have got some pretty good care being applied.?

The $1trillion deal ? equal to ?700billion and intended to bring the world out of recession next year ? will see a huge injection of cash from rich countries into the International Monetary Fund.

They will then offer one-off, no-strings-attached loans at super-low interest rates to emerging countries from eastern Europe, Africa and Asia.

In turn, they will start buying Western exports, which will ensure the world?s economy will breathe again.

There will also be a fund for trade to ensure that businesses are able to borrow more easily.

The PM won a standing ovation from world leaders after securing the deal yesterday.

He promised the G20 action plan will ensure all countries are well on the road to recovery by the end of next year.

He said world industrial growth would be heading back towards its usual four per cent by then ? despite IMF predictions of just two per cent.

Mr Brown ? who, like movie villain Dr Evil had demanded a vast sum to avert world catastrophe ? said: ?These actions give us confidence that the global economy can return to trend growth even faster than the IMF is predicting.?

The Premier refused to take personal credit for the deal, despite jetting 50,000 miles around the world persuading leaders to back him in recent weeks.

He said: ?This is an example of the world actually working together. This is a collective action of people around the world working at their best.

?These decisions, of course, will not immediately solve the crisis. But we have begun the process by which it will be solved. Today the largest countries of the world have agreed a global plan for recovery and reform.

?The issues people thought divided us did not at all. There was substantial agreement on the need to do whatever is necessary to return to growth.?

Mr Brown said the increased cash for the IMF included $40billion dollars from China, $100billion from the EU and the same from Japan.

The total package ? added to the amount countries have already pumped into their economies ? totals $5trillion.

The world leaders, among them Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, also agreed to name and shame countries which close their doors to foreign competition to protect home-grown jobs.
A crackdown on nations which provide tax havens.

They will be put on a trade blacklist. New rules governing bank pay were also agreed to prevent fatcats pocketing giant bonuses without achieving profits.

Last night the FTSE soared at the end of business as markets learned news of the breakthrough deal.

Labour aides expect Mr Brown?s blueprint ? and his hosting of Mr Obama ? to give him a polls boost.

Mr Obama, who told world leaders he was the ?new kid on the block?, praised Mr Brown for ensuring ?relatively few hiccups?. Mr Medvedev called the atmosphere at the capital?s Excel Centre ?businesslike?.

He said: ?I feel that Gordon has dedicated all his heart to that. He has helped to create a substantial declaration.?
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Change we can believe in !:00hour
 

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I know what he inheired Chad--and I know whats occurred since he's been elected--as I mentioned--you'd figure things would have began to abate if anyone on the productive side had same hope as the non-productive--

Glad to see you participating in this thread as I would like to get opinion from objective person on the other side--other than these "this is era of responsibilty/its bushes fault--obie clones.:)

What has Obama passed that is advantageous to business's that would make them optomistic on expanding.

I can think of one and made note of same when he finally got around to doing the obvious after hearding his social plans through 1st.

I beg to differ. I have not praised Obama. You have trashed him for things that out of his control and are the fault of the policies that you supported the last eight years. And that is the truth. And before you blame the Dems because they took control the last two years of your boys reign. What legislation did they pass over his veto that turned things around. As you stated in another thread.
 

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which one :0corn

Putting the toxic assets under one umbrella like Resolution Trust when savings and loan catastrophe hit.

Was logical solution--but we worked on all the social engineering 1st before finally working on main prob just a couple weeks ago.

If congress axes his carbon taxing and healthcare reform we might get out of this down the road Scott--if not -it don't look pretty.
 

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hadnt heard about that one

it figures you would pick out some obscure thing that makes no sense.

I like that your optimistic though
 

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you'd figure things would have began to abate if anyone on the productive side had same hope as the non-productive--

What has Obama passed that is advantageous to business's that would make them optomistic on expanding.

Will address these two points - perhaps not completely or accurately as I am not sure what parts of his initial plan to help small (and large) businesses were enacted thus far. I will check, but I will post the Obama/Biden main points here, I'm sure some, if not all, were enacted. I personally did not expect "things to begin to abate" this quickly - far from it. To expect that IMO is unrealistic at best, and purely political fodder to claim at worst. Things were bad and turning much worse in the early part of this year, and I don't think there's much that anyone could have done to create a nice economic turnaround in less than 3 months, but I guess you can demand it of him for again - political gain. ANYway, here are some parts of the Obama plan to help business - some of it I know has been enacted and will definitely help:

1. A New American Jobs Tax Credit: Obama and Biden will provide a new temporary tax credit to companies that add jobs here in the United States. During 2009 and 2010, existing businesses will receive a $3,000 refundable tax credit for each additional full-time employee hired. For example, if a company that currently has 10 U.S. employees increases its domestic full time employment to 20 employees, this company would get a $30,000 tax credit -- enough to offset the entire added payroll tax costs to the company for the first $50,000 of income for the new employees. The tax credit will benefit all companies creating net new jobs, even those struggling to make a profit.

2. Raise the small business investment expensing limit to $250,000 through the end of 2009: Obama and Biden will give small businesses an additional incentive to make investments and start creating jobs again by providing temporary business tax incentives through 2009. The February 2008 stimulus bill increased maximum Section 179 expenses to $250,000 but this expires in December 2008. This provision will encourage all firms to pursue investment in the coming months, but will particularly benefit small firms which generally have smaller amounts of annual property purchases and so choose to expense the cost of their acquired property.

3. Zero capital gains rate for investment in small businesses: Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe that we need to encourage investment in small businesses to help create jobs and turn our economy around. That's why they will eliminate all capital gains taxes on investments made in small and start-up businesses. They also want to cut taxes for the small businesses that create jobs but are struggling with restricted access to credit on top of skyrocketing health care and energy costs.

4. Save one million jobs through immediate investments to rebuild America's roads and bridges and repair our schools: The Obama-Biden emergency plan would make $25 billion immediately available in a Jobs and Growth Fund to help ensure that in-progress and fast-tracked infrastructure projects are not sidelined, and to ensure that schools can meet their energy costs and undertake key repairs starting this fall. This increased investment is necessary to stem growing budget pressures on infrastructure projects. In addition, in an environment where we may face elevated unemployment levels well into 2009, making an aggressive investment in urgent, high-priority infrastructure will serve as a triple win: generating capital deployment and job creation to boost our economy in the near-term, enhancing U.S. competitiveness in the longer term, and improving the environment by adopting energy efficient school and infrastructure repairs. In total, Obama and Biden's $25 billion investment will result in 1 million jobs created or saved, while helping to turn our economy around.

5. Partner with America's automakers to help save jobs and ensure that the next generation of clean vehicles is built in the United States: Senator Obama pushed for $50 billion in loan guarantees to help the auto industry retool, develop new battery technologies and produce the next generation of fuel efficient cars here in America. Congress passed only half of this amount -- it is critical that the administration speeds up the implementation of the first half and that Congress move quickly to enact the second half. In addition, Obama and Biden believe that with the tremendous uncertainty facing the auto industry, and the small and medium business suppliers who depend on them, it is critical that we keep all options on the table for helping them weather the financial crisis.
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I would think even the most ardent Obama hater would have to admit that some of the above will help business and the economy. But, maybe not. :shrug: I know that some here would never admit one positive thing about Obama - for various reasons - some ignorant, and some ingrained in their outlook on life in general. Not saying you, just saying some here.
 

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Thanks Chad -I appreciate your research.
On # 1 $3,000 would not be much and plan is very vague--what dictates new job--how long do they have to work to qualify--its a step but would like to know details.

# 2 is extension of previously implimented plan I believe.

# 3 I do not understand what capital gains would imply?-sorry

#4 One of ideas I like--putting people to work to rebuild roads and bridges--
However found this statement a little scarey--concerning quality of work and cost (hiring 4 trainees to do job one vet could)

ROBERT REICH, FORMER LABOR SECRETARY: I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers. I have nothing against white male construction workers. I'm just saying that there are a lot of other people who have needs as well.

#5 Nothing will help unionized auto industry.
Couple years back they had record revenues and record losses.

IMO unemployment will reach double digets by july. Part time jobs will take huge hit in June when gov jacks minimum wage again.

We have 2 things saving us now--low inflation and low interest rates--The 2 biggest factors on increasing money supply and running huge deficits are inflation and rising interest rates--it could get very nasty--I hope I'm wrong.
 

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believe he got elected 5 months ago--
Let me give you a hint on Da Base who voted on hope and change vs the productive.

Day he got elected you saw market reflect (with record drop) on financials worlds hopes on anticipated change.

Fast forward from day he got elected to today's headlines--

-663,000: Unemployment Rate Reaches 25-Year High of 8.5%...

--and you can book it- we hit double digit by July.

Why- What small business is going to expand with income tax increase-possibilty of carbon tax-mandatory wage increase again in june-etc

--believe me you and Da Base are only ones got any reason to be :00hour so far.

--but your going to have a small prob down the road ;)

Less than four months after the Obama administration argued that unemployment would top 9 percent only if Congress failed to pass a massive trillion-dollar "stimulus" spending bill, the Labor Department reported Friday that the jobless rate had soared to 9.4 percent, the highest in 25 years.
In pushing to get his $787 billion stimulus package passed in Congress, President Obama's economic team said that without the federal spending jolt, the unemployment rate would hit 8.8 percent by the last fiscal quarter of 2010. With the package, his advisers argued, the unemployment rate would reach only 7 percent.

Lets see unemployment hits 9.4 and 2 months till July

Hmmm Wonder if Gumby would consider ole dogs to take over his economic adviser team projections--as much more accurate than his pack of grifters.

:0corn
 

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Things are sooo good. But should even get better. You know this when the ex VP is running around still telling same lies. That O is on right track.
 
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