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[Marco]

Count me in with the somewhat pessimistic people that tend to see things for what they are.......

It would be great if life was like that shown on "Leave it to Beaver"........all your neighbors were like Ward Cleaver and the biggest mistake you ever made was not setting the trash by the curb for the garbage man to pick up......hell, did the garbage even stink on that show?

Realists know there are guns and scams and people with less than humanistic intent out there, and know that locks and security systems are needed just to keep what one has worked for.....and that throwing more money out and building more prisons isn't a cure-all.........

As far as the situation in Iraq goes, just expect to bring more dead servicemen home as long as we're over there because we're more or less fighting nationals who are opposed to thier occupation by a foreign army........the deaths, whether by gunshot or roadside bombings, will continue for as long as we are over there.

Upon leaving, the rest of the political assassinations over there will still continue, along with the upcoming civil war, and the rise to power of some thug that more than likely will possess a penchant for looting the Iraqi treasury and getting rid of detractors during the course of his travels.

Call me pessimistic, but at least my feet are on the ground.

 

[StevieD]

First off I never said to throw more money at it. I said to put more cops on the street. Cops that we had to take off the streets because of budget cuts. That is not just throwing money at the problem. I don't have the answer but would rather work in this country than Iraq because I agree with Marco on Iraq.
Once again Dogs you chose to defend your postion by striking out against someone else. I take that to mean that you cannot defend DeLay and disagree with your hero Bush and you think he should be gone. Or, like Bush, you condone his corrupt money grabbing a$$.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Dogs you chose to defend your postion by striking out against someone else. I take that to mean that you cannot defend DeLay and disagree with your hero Bush and you think he should be gone. Or, like Bush, you condone his corrupt money grabbing a$$."

I don't care for DeLay but he's been accused or found quilty of nothing illegal unless you can enlighten us to the contrary. Unlike the past administration where there continue to be indictments--monthly, stealing documents to cover Bill's ass--and Hilliarys crew already looking at jail time and she's not officially running yet--todays news--David Rosen her financial director in 2000 senate campaighn is looking at 15 years in prison if convicted on may 5th for campaighn fraud.

Lets cut to the chase--You put up all the people in Bushes administration that have been indicted or prosecuted and I'll put up those in last admin--fair enough--I know ,you'll pass.

---and as far as money grubbing--don't think the Bush family needs any more money they have had generations of accummulation and success--unlike Bill's gene pool which would be embarrassment to get into. They don't have to rent out the white house for cash--pardon 10 most wanted for cash--rip public off on bogus real estate deals ect.Cinton never reported over $36,000 income in the real world--until he got into politics which is license to steal--and selling books and giving speeches to the lemmings of the left.

 

[StevieD]

I refuse to fall for your argument. I do not have to defend Clinton because for one I was not all that found of him. But in his defense he did have this guy Starr to fight off at every venue and if memory serves me right Starr spent millions of the publics money going after Hillary and I don't think he found her guilty of anything. At least I don't remember her serving any jail time.
As for Bush he doesn't have a "Public Prosecutor" on his case every minute of every day. But I would imagine the Bush allegiance with the Bil Laden family would be interesting,. The old man's allegiance with the Carlisle Group would be good fodder. We could have him check out Cheney and Haliburton. There was that guy in Texas who worked for Enron who Bush said he never met but it was proved they had and then the guy's car blew up. I forget his name off the top of his head. There is a bunch of stuff we can check out on Bush. So why don't you just stick to the point and defend Bush without being so pessimistic and dragging someone else through the mud.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"The old man's allegiance with the Carlisle Group would be good fodder. We could have him check out Cheney and Haliburton. There was that guy in Texas who worked for Enron who Bush said he never met but it was proved they had and then the guy's car blew up. I forget his name off the top of his head. There is a bunch of stuff we can check out on"

I believe I asked for (facts not opinions or speculation) on indictments or prosecussion--

 

[StevieD]

Your special prosecuter couldn't come up with anything on Hillary. Let's bring the government to a halt and spend the money like you republicans did during the Clinton years. What indictment did they get against Hillary? All those millions and they found out what? Now, just indictments and prosecutions please.
I asked you to defend Bush. I guess you can't.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Who said anythng about Hilliary --sit down --take a deep breath and "READ" the question.

"Lets cut to the chase--You put up all the people in Bushes administration that have been indicted or prosecuted and I'll put up those in last admin--fair enough--I know ,you'll pass."

Then either reply with facts or pass.

 

[kosar]

---and as far as money grubbing--don't think the Bush family needs any more money they have had generations of accummulation and success--unlike Bill's gene pool which would be embarrassment to get into. They don't have to rent out the white house for cash--pardon 10 most wanted for cash--rip public off on bogus real estate deals ect.Cinton never reported over $36,000 income in the real world--until he got into politics which is license to steal--and selling books and giving speeches to the lemmings of the left.

Your disdain for poor people in general is well-documented, but i've never really understood your constant comments about how Bubba never made more than blah, blah, blah before he got into politics.....

Politics aside, and speaking generally, isn't it just a little more admirable that a person who grew up dirt poor manages to become president rather than a silver spoon/ trust fund baby.

I mean, you despise and look down on poor people who stay poor and with Clinton, you somehow consider it a bad thing that he started out poor and became president and rich.

My God, man, I guess it's simply any person who was *ever* poor that gets your venom.

 

[kosar]

"Lets cut to the chase--You put up all the people in Bushes administration that have been indicted or prosecuted and I'll put up those in last admin--fair enough--I know ,you'll pass."

Then either reply with facts or pass.

Didn't we just play this game a month or two ago? It's the thread in which I posted evidence that showed how the Clinton admin was among the least 'convicted' out of all the presidents.

I know you like to deal with innuendo and exaggerated runaway rumors, but let's stick with the facts, Jack. I don't feel like searching for that thread, but i'm sure you remember it.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Your disdain for poor people in general is well-documented"

depends on your definition of poor people.

When young I had to pick up soda bottles to help pay for school bus because $5 a month put burden on family house hold.
However I never thought of us as poor--we had our own home--small farm grew lots of our own food which my mother canned for winter.
My beef is with the food stamp--welfare recipients--crime ridden aids infected people with 3 cell phones and a beeper hanging off them that make up the bulk of your liberal base that never worked a day in their life because some people think those that do should support those that don't or won't.

Never been against the poor--just the lazy and those that are willingly parasites of society.

Liberal logic--Illegal aliens are needed to do jobs most do want to do then complain there are no jobs to be found, which is it? Don't blame em for not wanting low paying job when they can collect more doing nothing.

 

[kosar]

Never been against the poor--just the lazy and those that are willingly parasites of society.

Ok, then why the constant harping on how little Clinton made earlier in his life? If your opinion above is actually how you feel, then I would think you would have much admiration for how a dirt poor man from Arkansas could hold our presidency for 8 years.

The American dream, ya know?

 

[StevieD]

As for people indited we don't have a special prosecuter to do it. Thankfully, we don't. I guess DTB would hate Abe Lincoln too. being born in a log cabin and all... LOL!