OK like wow YOU have to see this video really it's nuts

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NI iwasnt looking for 911 conspiracies i was just browsing through you tube for other stuff and this popped up on RHS


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NI iwasnt looking for 911 conspiracies i was just browsing through you tube for other stuff and this popped up on RHS


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Conclusive Evidence the 9/11 Planes were NOT REAL



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Flight 175 (rare video)
IT"s a CGI image proof in video still shots


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9/11 Fake Planes - No Debri No Planes PROOF from the plane crash into Emipre stste building wake up guys really also notice building 7 far away striaght down collapse like demolition ????



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HOW DID WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 FALL?


ALSO in history NO STEEL BUILDING EVER COLLAPSED FROM ANY FIRE

as you will here fire commisioner say in this video at the end


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Tell em scrapper! If you get a chance can we hear your thoughts on the moon landing, Kennedy assassination, and the attack on Pearl Harbor:0008
 

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Right scrap, that's why flame throwers were regularly used to destroy light armored vehicles, because 10k or so gallons of fuel burning at a ridiculously high temperature won't have any effect on steel. I am curious to know if somebody hacked your account and posted this stupid shit, or you've somehow become even more farcical than I originally thought.
 

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HEY Fdc buddy planes cannot ever go straight throuh steel and concrete without some breakage ......the second plane if you watch the whole fucking video you will notice the left wing goes behind the building in background which proves that it was a fake TV image while the real missle struck ...... also the other image of the NOSE of the plane coming through the other side!

EXPLAIN how that fucking happened? How can a passenger airliner made out of aluminum stay intack and go through a building.

Another fact dozens of witnesses said they DID NOT HEAR THE JEY engines it was quiet before collisions.

I'm pretty fucking sure you hear any jet plane flying over head at sea level.

Another Fact the speed of the airliners was reported at over 500 MPH ..............IT's Impossible for any huge airliner to go that fast at sea level IMPOSSIBLE . Because the engines cannot generate enough thrust to make them travel at that speed at sea level .

NOW go look at all the facts before you try and disprove what occured and explain how a fire colllapsed 100's of stories of steel and concrete into DUST.

There also was no debris from any plane none and all the office furniture in both buildings WTF happened to the chairs made out of steel all the other stuff hundreds of items barely anything found ???

There was some very scary stuff happening.....

Also if you listen to reports from fire experts several times NO FIRE ALONE ever ever in history ever collapsed a steel framed building.




Also in the videos they talk about the degrees generated by any fire are not hot enough to melt steel into dust not the fuel in the engines either it is impossible for that heat to be generated.......... NOT FUCKING FLAME FLOWERS SIR. Thats Concentrated aimed flame to stop tanks/

Through history of the world find one tall skyscraper that collapsed into dust from a massive fire ONE just one and i'll have all this stuff removed and never ever post about all these Miracles ocurring again at 9-11.

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OK explain how building 6 only had it's core removed while the outer shell remained intact and WAS NOT STRUCK BY ANY PLANE!

Also how building 7 went straight down in demolition style like the Casinos in vegas were exploded!!!

HOW can any tall building collapse like that from fires ... ??? HOW can they without explosives of immense magnitued so it complete implodes like it stepped on by a giant foot from above or sucked into the ground in seconds .
I see fires every day that gutted factories but for some reason the building remained the steel skelton stood intact ...

The fires burned for hours BUT the fucking structure remained intact.

Just saw a house fire occur other day up next street this was a brick row home very little steel used in our row homes here ......... fire burned for about an hour house is still standing the old man inside died.

I also had massive house fire years ago HOT molten Tar from kettle explosion $25,0000 in damage to front of house door windows awning gone but neighbors homes very little damage.

Hose was restored fully whole new front and was back in christmas eve.

Now before any of you call me nut job or liberal or whatever gather evidence to support your claims and then i'll STFU about this .........
 

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Serious question as you have raised some excellent points that will now force me to reevaluate this whole situation. Just making sure we are on the same page. Are you saying nothing ever hit the buildings or that something did hit them just not the planes we are "lead" to believe. Thanks bud and I look forward to your response!
 

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I'm on board with ya Scrap, don't listen to these idiots....Quick question, any idea the light was zig zagging across the sky last night around 11:45pm about 85 miles north of Portland, Maine....I damn near dropped my Vodka Martini on the rocks in my lap.....:0008
 

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Truthers make my brain hurt..

Thought this was funny

Cheney: We want to do a war in the poorest country in the world, Afghanistan.
Bush: Why?
Cheney: To steal the oil they don?t have.
(Notice the early reference to steal, which later melted. Another proof of inside job!)
Bush: Okaay, doesn?t sound very reasonable but? since we are in the power now, let?s go!
Rumsfeld: No sir, it?s not that easy. We need a pretext.
Bush: Why? Didn?t we just invade Iraq in the nineties? Let?s just invade them if we want to invade them!
Rumsfeld: No! We will create a pretext by destroying the World Trade Center.
Bush: Wooow!! sounds a little bit crazy and excessive but? Okaay
Rumsfeld: We will plant bombs and?
Bush: I see! Like terrorists did in 1993, but this time we will blame the Afghans!
Cheney: No sir, we need to do it more complex.
Bush: Why? Sounds pretty simple and direct to me!
Rumsfeld: Sir, we will bomb the towers but make people believe they were brought by planes.
Bush: Wooooow! That?s crazy! How are you going to make people confuse a bomb with a plane?! Even I can tell the difference!
Rumsfeld: Planes will distract from bombs!
Cheney: Or we won?t use planes at all!
Bush: Why don?t we just use the planes if we want to make people believe they were planes?
Rumsfeld: You don?t understand it, sir. They must be bombs! Everybody loves bombs! The planes are just a distraction!
Bush: Okaaay? So which role do the planes or no planes play in this plot?
Rumsfeld: We will say they were hijacked and crashed by terrorists.
Bush: Oh I see!! We will blame afghan or iraqi terrorists!
Rumsfeld: No sir. We will say they were saudis, egyptians, lebanese?
Bush: Why don?t we just blame afghans if we want to invade Afghanistan
Cheney: Or not use planes at all?
Rumsfeld: Guys, those are good ideas also, but you don?t understand it. They must be saudis and lebanese. Otherwise it?s too obvious.
Bush: Okaaay, doesn?t sound very reasonable to me but you are the expert? What about the bombs then? What if some amateur video camera captures the thing? What if policemen or firemen notice?
Rumsfeld: Policemen and firemen will be paid by us, so they will think whatever we tell them to think. Regarding the recordings, we will not use bombs, sir, we?
Bush: You just said we would use bombs!!
Rumsfeld: But bombs make too much noise, we will use thermite.
Bush: Termites??
Rumsfeld: No sir, thermite. An incendiary which is completely inefficient and unpredictable and therefore has never been used to demolish a building, but we will cross fingers.
Cheney: Or we won?t use thermite at all!
Bush: Okaaay, sounds a little bit risky to me but? How or when are we going to plant all the ? thermite you said? in the buildings without anyone noticing? How much will be needed? Many tons I guess...
Rumsfeld: A couple of nights before, during a blackout. We will pay of course all the security, policemen and literally anyone who could find us.
Bush: Woow!! It sounds challenging? I mean, given the size of the buildings? during a blackout? without lights? without elevators working? So the guys will carry all the stuff by hand? How many tons of thermite would be needed? Are you sure it can be done in one night?
Rumsfeld: Absolutely. And your brother will keep the dog away while they work.
Cheney: Or we won?t use dogs at all!
Bush: Sounds a little bit strange all this, like a Rube Goldberg machine that could fail in a million places but? go ahead guys! the plan is clear, I think?
Rumsfeld: Wait sir, there is more. We will also launch a missile against the Pentagon.
Bush: A missile? In the Pentagon? Isn?t it the place where you work?
Rumsfeld: Yeah, but I am a man of action, what can I say?
Bush: And how are those afghans supposed to get their hands on a missile?
Rumsfeld: We will tell the people it was a plane.
Cheney: Or we won?t use planes at all!
Bush: But someone would notice the difference! And what about the passengers? Black boxes?
Rumsfeld: We will kidnap some real people and plant their body parts in the place and pay a fortune to literally everyone in Washington who could have a chance to be in the area that day so they confirm our story.
Bush: Isn?t it easier to use a fucking plane???
Rumsfeld: Sir, you don?t understand it. We said it has to be a missile, not a plane. Where are we supposed to find a plane? We have lots of missiles instead!
Bush: Okaay, sounds unnecessarily complex, but you guys are the experts?go ahead!
Rumsfeld: Wait. There is more. We will also crash another plane in the middle of nowhere.
Bush: Why?? Isn?t the plan complete without this? But this time a real plane?
Cheney: Or no plane at all! We will dig a hole and tell them a plane crashed there.
Bush: Why!?? this is too stupid! People will notice the difference! And what is the fucking purpose of a plane crashed in the middle of nowhere??
Rumsfeld: No they won?t! Sir, you don?t understand it! The best way to make people believe 4 planes were hijacked and crashed is, of course, by not hijacking and crashing 4 planes. Everybody in Hollywood knows this! Nobody will realize! If some genius with a cardboard box manages to show the plan impossible, we will launch a lot of paid scientists onto him! There is no stopping us! Muahahahahahahahahaha
 

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Very interesting Scrapman.

I didn't realize how ignorant I was about some things on 9-11, until watching these clips. .. wow... very interesting
 

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Serious question as you have raised some excellent points that will now force me to reevaluate this whole situation. Just making sure we are on the same page. Are you saying nothing ever hit the buildings or that something did hit them just not the planes we are "lead" to believe. Thanks bud and I look forward to your response!

UGA something DID hit the buildings BUT not regular passenger jet airliners..

it's a fact they cannot fly at low altitudes of speeds in excess of 500 mph

all the stuff i'm posting here is only what is reported by real top experts in thier fields.

everything that occured that morning is very ummmmmmmmmmmm scammy ....especially WTC 6 and 7 buildings which were not struck by planes but building 7 imploded demo style striaght to the ground from only fire???

Building 6 core was missing only???

Why were the jet figthers told to stand down? they had time to intercept anything headed to any monument or city and could have exploded those whatevers before they struck..

OF course we never will hear all the illegal crimes committed aginst US that day because we have no outside surce to bring in all were connected and question them at lenghty trials.

GO back to JFK assination Osawld was murdered and Jack Ruby was murdered after killing Oswald ? WHY? Because they knew something that the ones who comitted the act DID NOT want known.

WHOPPI Goldberg stone cold in comedy broadcast stopped came close to camera and said IF you know something about someone or something that will prove they lied STFU because they will find you and Kill you also! NOT excatly those words she said but any one who knew stuff about former assn's bombings etc... that was not to be known were instantly killed and dissapeared soon after.
 

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HERE WE GO GUYS another independent reportsshows lots of coverups occured about 9/11

HEY i'm just giving you the questions that are not answered that also other massive public explosions were staged to cover up something else the GOV'T wanted to do! IT's like having a criminal group create a mass mob flash in one part of a town to get all police there to stop it while others go rob a jewelry like taking a walk in a park!

READ and take it at face value ...

9/11 was a Hoax
The American government killed its own people
by John Kaminski

9/11 was a hoax. This is no longer a wild conspiracy assertion; it is a fact, supported by thousands of other verifiable facts, foremost of which are:

The attacks of 9/11 COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED without the willful failure of the American defense system. In Washington, Air Force pilots demanded to fly but were ordered to stand down. Yet instead of prosecuting the president and military leaders for this unprecedented dereliction of duty, military leaders were promoted and the

president was praised for presiding over a defense system that suspiciously failed the most crucial test in its history.

None of the deaths would have happened without the deliberate unplugging of America's air defenses.



Planes that lose contact with control towers are usually intercepted by fighter jets inside of ten minutes, as the incident with the golfer's plane a few months earlier so clearly demonstrated. Yet on 9/11, the jetliners that struck New York were allowed to proceed unmolested for more than a half-hour, and the plane that supposedly crashed in Washington was not intercepted for more than an hour and forty minutes after it was widely known that four planes had been hijacked.

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The twin towers could not have collapsed as a result of burning jet fuel. Most of that fuel was consumed on impact. In the south tower, most of the fuel was spilled outside the building. Heat caused by burning jet fuel does not reach temperatures needed to melt steel.

What does stand out as particularly suspicious and still unexplained is that fires raged out of control beneath THREE of the collapsed towers for ONE HUNDRED DAYS, clearly indicating the presence of some kind of substance utilized in the demolition of the structures.

The Twin Towers did not fall because of plane impacts or fires. Most likely explosives were placed on structural supports in the towers (as was done in Oklahoma City), and these controlled implosions snuffed out the lives of three thousand people.

FBI Director Robert Mueller insisted officials had no idea this kind of attack could happen when in fact the FBI had been investigating the possibility of EXACTLY this kind of attack for almost TEN YEARS.

Numerous previous attempts at using planes as weapons, intimate knowledge of terror plans called Project Bojinka, and knowledge of suspicious characters attending flight schools who were being monitored by the FBI make his utterance a clear lie on its face.

In the weeks before 9/11, the U.S. received warnings from all over the world that an event just like this was about to happen, but FBI investigations into suspected terrorists were suppressed and those warnings were deliberately disregarded.



The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen.

This is an impossible twist of logic.
If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers?

Various artifacts were discovered in strategic places to try to confirm the government's story, but these have all been dismissed as suspicious planting of evidence. Since that time several names on that list have turned up alive and well, living in Arab countries.

Yet no attempt has ever been made to update the list. And why were none of these names on the airlines' passenger lists?


The hole in the Pentagon was not made by a jumbo jet. Damage to the building was simply not consistent with the size of the hole nor the absence of debris.

At the supposed point of impact, a whole bank of windows remained unbroken and there were no marks on the lawn. No airplane debris (except what was planted on the lawn) nor remains of passengers were ever found.
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The president has admitted that he continued to read a story to schoolchildren in a Florida school for 30 minutes after being informed that two planes had struck New York and that the nation was under attack. He has never explained this puzzling behavior, nor how he saw the first plane hit. It was never televised, only recorded by a French crew filming firemen in New York. In that film, the plane in question does not appear to be a passenger airliner. :mj07:

The plane in Pennsylvania was shot down and broke apart in midair. No other explanation can account for the wreckage, which was spread over a six-mile area, or the eyewitness accounts that describe debris falling from the sky.


Cellphone calls cannot be made from airliners in flight that are not close to the ground. As research by Professor A. K. Dewdney has shown, the emotional conversations between hijacked passengers and others would not have been possible under conditions that existed at that moment. These calls were cynical fabrications, exploiting the distraught emotions of those who lost loved ones.


Radio communications from firefighters on the upper floors of the Trade Center towers clearly indicate that fires were under control and the structure was in no danger of collapsing.

These are merely a few of the deliberately false statements made by U.S. officials about 9/11. They provide crystal clear evidence that our president, his staff, and many legislators should be indicted on charges of treason, obstruction of justice and mass murder. Above all, these evil men should be removed from their positions of authority before they implement more of their moneymaking murder schemes like the one they are now perpetrating on the innocent people of Iraq.

Otherwise, we face a future of endless war abroad and merciless repression at home.

Consider just a few more of the other unanswered questions from among the thousands of unexplained loose ends that all point to 9/11 being an inside job.

Who benefited from the suspiciously high numbers of put options purchased prior to September 11 for shares in companies whose stock prices subsequently plummeted, on the supposition that whoever was behind the hijacking was also behind most of the purchases of these put options? And what was the role of the new executive director of the CIA, Buzzy Krongard, who handled these transactions?

Why was the debris from the collapsed Twin Towers removed from the site with no forensic examination? Why was almost all of it sold to scrap merchants and shipped abroad where it would not be available for scientific examination?

Why does the government refuse to release any transcripts of communications or any records at all relating to signals of any form transmitted by those jets?

Why did so many people, from San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown to many employees of companies in the World Trade Center who failed to come to work that day, know in advance that something bad was going to happen on Sept. 11, 2001?

Why do all the major U.S. media continue to act as if none of these questions is legitimate or relevant?

Today, millions of people around the world are protesting the criminal destruction of the nation of Iraq. But these protests won't change the number of minds necessary to stop America's criminal madmen from continuing with their genocidal aim of enslaving the entire world.

What WILL stop them is spreading the realization that President George W. Bush and his billionaire accomplices in the oil industry perpetrated 9/11 as an excuse to begin the militarization of America for the purpose of world conquest.

History has shown all too clearly the deceived American people WILL support the destruction of faraway countries on phony pretexts of defending so-called freedom.

Thus the needless wars continue. Right now we watch high-tech weapons slaughter the defenseless people of Iraq. Soon it will be Iran, Syria, Colombia, Venezuela, North Korea, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and who knows where else. All these misguided atrocities will be possible because of the hoax known as 9/11.

But the American people will not ? and cannot ? tolerate leaders who kill our own people merely to invent a pretext ? the war on terror ? to go around killing anyone they like.

If the American people DO tolerate such an insane strategy, then they clearly do not deserve to survive as a nation or a people.

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