Oklahoma State down to -1???
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Oregon was a huge ML dog winner last year,about a 30+point victory,major yardage running with the Rookie now at Carolina leading the way,going way over the total.(Okie st went way over in last years bowl game too.)Doesn't mean Oregon can't cover or win again,they lost a bunch in a row before that(4 I think),so they may be due for two in arow.Gotta watch the game with some oregon kids,wouldn't be able to root against them in front of that crowd.They also scored the highest point total ever by an opponent on hated oregon st in their civil war season ender(65),so the the one thing I don't expect is for them to light up okie st both covering and going over I mean.I'm playing under 77,the outcome of the team part will be interesting to see if the money wins.My local thinks he knows,he's stuck with okie st-2!!!!!
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Corner get back in your thread in general... we need an update
If you don't know who Billy Walters is, you shouldn't be betting sports.
To me:
These two teams are evenly matched. Very similar on offense, both sub-par on defense. Both teams very experienced on the OL. OSU however has a decided edge in the 3rd down conversion dept.
I think some of this line-movement could be a reaction to what Missouri did last night and how it reflects upon the Big 12 as a whole.
Oklahoma State has a slight edge in the penalty dept. Oregon is good for at least 2 major penalties per game due to stupid mistakes and losing their temper, bone-head type plays. I like the swagger that Oregon plays with, the omnipresent chip that is on their shoulders can offset their lack of talent. However, it can hurt also as aforementioned.
Both teams had good seasons and proved they are not quite ready to run with the Big Dogs. Both teams dead-even in turnover margin, so attempting to handicap that angle is difficult as well. I think both teams want to be in SD. The Holiday Bowl is a good bowl in a great setting.
The advantage in the kicking game however goes to OSU. Their kicker is much more accurate than Oregon, and they get a few more hidden yards in kick returns and punt returns.
In the end, I think this game is a tossup and there was value with Oregon catching the 3. However with the game as a pick-em; flipping a coin may be the best strategy.
Good luck to everyone that plays this one!!!
kurby
These two teams are evenly matched. Very similar on offense, both sub-par on defense. Both teams very experienced on the OL. OSU however has a decided edge in the 3rd down conversion dept.
I think some of this line-movement could be a reaction to what Missouri did last night and how it reflects upon the Big 12 as a whole.
Oklahoma State has a slight edge in the penalty dept. Oregon is good for at least 2 major penalties per game due to stupid mistakes and losing their temper, bone-head type plays. I like the swagger that Oregon plays with, the omnipresent chip that is on their shoulders can offset their lack of talent. However, it can hurt also as aforementioned.
Both teams had good seasons and proved they are not quite ready to run with the Big Dogs. Both teams dead-even in turnover margin, so attempting to handicap that angle is difficult as well. I think both teams want to be in SD. The Holiday Bowl is a good bowl in a great setting.
The advantage in the kicking game however goes to OSU. Their kicker is much more accurate than Oregon, and they get a few more hidden yards in kick returns and punt returns.
In the end, I think this game is a tossup and there was value with Oregon catching the 3. However with the game as a pick-em; flipping a coin may be the best strategy.
Good luck to everyone that plays this one!!!
kurby
all the late action has been on oregon, maybe the lines makers knew that people were waiting. OSU is down to 62% of the bets at a site that i trust is giving close to honest numbers.
Even match up and i origanally was leaning towards osu which makes me think the ducks are probaly the play
Maybe Phil Knight dropped a truckful of cash on his Ducks and Vegas adjusted in hopes of luring a big wager from T. Boone Pickens. :shrug:
Papi, where did you see it oregon -1.....seeing it as a pick right now at places I have accounts and memberships set up.....maybe thats now from -1 at this point. :SIB
Anyway, just curious for discussion sake.
Didn't you just cry to the board with 10 Grand on a team that was 0-15...
If you don't listen to Billy Walters, you shouldn't be making douchebag bets, you slimy fuck.
Clear enough?
Go save your marriage
This line movement intrigues me.
So far this year in the bowls, these games saw line movement in the final day before the bowl.
Missouri -12.5 to -14
WVA -1 to -2.5
Cal -8 to -10
In those cases, the steam (is that the right term?) lost.
NCST +7 to +6......in this case the steam won or pushed on the closing line.
FSU -5.5 to -7.....in this case the steam won.
Thoughts anyone? Does this mean anything?
This movement in the last 12 hours seems insane!
Pac 10 Dogs are 16-5 ATS, maybe thats at play.....i know i was interested in them because of that history.
So far this year in the bowls, these games saw line movement in the final day before the bowl.
Missouri -12.5 to -14
WVA -1 to -2.5
Cal -8 to -10
In those cases, the steam (is that the right term?) lost.
NCST +7 to +6......in this case the steam won or pushed on the closing line.
FSU -5.5 to -7.....in this case the steam won.
Thoughts anyone? Does this mean anything?
This movement in the last 12 hours seems insane!
Pac 10 Dogs are 16-5 ATS, maybe thats at play.....i know i was interested in them because of that history.
i think this is a pretty solid assessment.....it`s a crap shoot as to who comes out prepared to play.....
really like mirror images.....
i don't know who was on what...but if you really looked at the game carefully you would have noticed that oregon is a better team than ok st from the line of scrimmage...they rush the ball 1 ypc more than ok st & stop the run better than ok st....& belotti usually has his team prepared after a layoff.....
I was looking for this info in another thread but was too tired to look in the forum and waited for someone to answer this question in my thread. This was a HUGE indicator that it was a false line move and ORG was the auto cover..... Hope you cashed everyone!!!!
i totally disagree,ar...i think that if bryant doesn`t bite the dust before the end of the 1st half,okie st may have run them out of the gym....very possibly would have caused them to pass more instead of hunker down and run the spread..
i don`t see how you can ignore what went on before the injury and after it...
it not only grounded theiir passing game but sucked the life out of the team...changed time of possession...the number of hits the qb took...the reckless abandon with which oregon rushed the qb after the injury...i don`t think they would have been blitzing like they were if they were forced to double cover bryant(which didn`t seem to be working,btw)...
it seemed pretty obvious to me..that`s why i offed some okie st at halftime...
i think we may have just seen the next big thing, receiver-wise,in the nfl...that guy was amazing..
big,game altering injuries seem to be a pattern in these bowl games...
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