Olbermann vs. O'Reilly

[Roger Baltrey]

Bryanz nails it! And dont' forget Sean O hannity, who would applaud if Dick Cheney took a shit on the front lawn of the White House. At least Robert Novak and George Will will blast a Republican from time to time. Limbaugh is the worst fraud on the face of the earth. "Throw all the drug addicts in Prison"..........WHOOOOOOOPPPPPSSS!!!

 

[smurphy]

Limbaugh is the worst fraud on the face of the earth. "Throw all the drug addicts in Prison"..........WHOOOOOOOPPPPPSSS!!!

He still feels that way. He hasn't flip-flopped, he just forgot o mention before his own problem that he only meant black and liberal addicts.

I really hope all these political talk host, non news type shows are just a trend that will go away. People actually watch shows like O'Reilly as their exclusive source of news. They have so much power over the way people think, it's kinda scary.

 

[Chadman]

I think the blanket criticism of Air America is a little deserved, as many of the shows there are just a hate Bush gathering every day. Of course he has asked for that, but it just doesn't get anything accomplished. There are a couple of quality Air America programs - Ed Schultz is terrific. He calls a spade a spade and calls a halt to senseless bashing and conspiratorial crap most of the time, while carrying the true democratic mentality through his show. If you conservatives have never listened to him, it might be worth listening to some time. I think he speaks well for the democratic side, and is fair most of the time.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"People actually watch shows like O'Reilly as their exclusive source of news. They have so much power over the way people think, it's kinda scary."

Wasn't aware Oreilly was news source??--However will say if person wants to hear from boths sides on opinion I've yet to see a show more balanced. Latest ordeal after King Funeral--whose his guest speaker imediately after reading-Carter/Sharpton the riot act--Yep Sharpton--would have had Carter had opted to come but he stays under the desk with Bill-Hilliary and Jesse--and not just picking on them--has been several rebs refuse to come on--especially after fcking up. My fav point about Oreilly is if he's got bone to pick with either side--he invites them to defend themselves. Anyone says any diff don't watch his show-- period.
If you don't like the side he takes thats fine--don't like some myself--would love to go on his show and debate him about his views on Swift boat vets.
Have not viewed his show in entirety for a while as not interested in a lot of topics--many he runs in ground--in fact news in general has been boring--you can only watch so many car chases--murder cases--brush burning that look like instant replays every day.

 

[smurphy]

You are correct DTB, "The Factor" is not officially a news show - but ask around - you you'd be amazed at how many people rely almost exclusively on shows like that for their news. It manages to tread a strange new middlegound that seems to have only popped up the last few years - it's a news channel, but it's an opinion show. I guess it's kinda like if you only read the editorials of a particular newspaper.

Yeah - sometimes he'll get after a guy on the right. But even a right winger can see that he's quite biased. Did he ever go after Cheney for saying "**** you" in congress? He definitely would have have if that was Gore as vp. ....And his typical guests and stories....they are ridiculous - almost always some psycho professor preaching some out of touch bullshit that no sane person would accept. BUT it's always painted as being exemplory of the left wing. ...This is why high ranking democrats tend to avoid O'Reilly.

His show is a joke, but his audience isn't - and that's why it's a mistake by Kerry, Hillary etc to avoid him. I admit they are not making the right move by doing that. O'Reilly is the mainstream media at this point and avoiding him is just not smart.

I love capitalism and the idea of choice in media, so I'm not too upset about any program. Fox and folks like O'Reilly really struck accord with a lot of America. In the long run, this can only be a good thing IMO. In the meantime, I'll bitch about him and Hannity and that "grapevine" guy you love so much. ......BUT I will always detest LARRY KING the most. Man, will that waste of space ever go away?

 

[djv]

By the way Clinton was applauded by Dem's and Reb's a like for how he handled King funeral. And with out any notes.

 

[Roger Baltrey]

Think most of the poster agree. The best radio shows and sources are at least somewhat non biased and will blast Dems or Repubs based on conduct. The Conservatives are firmly in charge right now so it's not even worth our time to talk about Jimmy Carter, when has he been relevant. And Al Sharpton is a boob of the highest order. Because of Supreme Court, Bush could be most important President of our lifetimes.

 

[Penguinfan]

Because of Supreme Court, Bush could be most important President of our lifetimes.

I think he will be the most important president in history simply for the death spiral he started for this country.

We will be generations recovering from the mess he has made.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"By the way Clinton was applauded by Dem's and Reb's a like for how he handled King funeral. And with out any notes."

You are quite correct DJV--and probably more emphatically so by Oreilly than any other--made big point to acknowlege that fact in his talking points. Fair and Balanced

 

[ImFeklhr]

BUT I will always detest LARRY KING the most. Man, will that waste of space ever go away?

Slyvia Brown has predicted Larry King will never go away..... sadly they are co-dependent.

 

[smurphy]

You are quite correct DJV--and probably more emphatically so by Oreilly than any other--made big point to acknowlege that fact in his talking points. Fair and Balanced

Just because I throw my dog a bone every now and then doesn't excuse me from feeding him regularly. You are truly in denial if you believe O'Reilly is balanced.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Never remotely said Oreilly is not a conservative Smurph--I do say his show is fair and balanced as he generally always has both sides present their view--granted - being the "referee" he does lead many discussions in direction of his view--however I like non-canned presentations--and if their was liberal slanted host willing to debate issues from both sides and go toe to toe with anyone--he would equally have my respect.
What I can't stand is for any person to present their view--then bring others with sameview to back his up--ala cnn.

 

[smurphy]

Ala who on CNN specifically?

 

[Roger Baltrey]

Liberals who take both sides:

Sam Donaldson (used to beat up Carter unmercifully)
David Brinkley (called Clinton a Goddamed bore)
Howard Stern

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I will make it a point to view some of these--as I am certain there are some equally fair ones.

Anyone see Oreilly last night??--Talking points was on Gore aiding and abetting terrorist(he stole my lines)

His quests in reply to talking points were both liberals(must like being double teamed)--one some gal that was Dem poltical activist-can't remember her name--who looked like utter buffoon because she just restated gores "opinions" and when asked about supporting facts (same as fox asked Gore in written memo) she as Gore could not supply any--however after Bill read the actual stats--she looked clueless for a minute and finally blurted out that not what Amnesty International (very left org) says, however could not supply what AI did say?
I don't think she will be too eager to come on factor again again as she was totally embarrassed.
The other guest was Lanny Davis ,Clintons former legal council.
Much sharper than the gal and would not step in any traps (I like this guy) His opinion is that what Gore did could not be justified -but thought Bill went too far in calling it aiding an abetting terrorist.

End result --you had hot topic of day--with points from conservative-left winger-and moderate dem--from whom to draw your own conclusion--don't know how you can be any more fair and balanced.

 

[smurphy]

when will o'reilly ever get after bush for his own symapthetic saudi ties? ....if fair and balanced, he will at least go after the most powerful person in america. enough with the irrelevent targets. that seems to be all o'reilly knows how to fight.

 

[smurphy]

and who exactly was the cnn person you were talking about again?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

No person inparticular but most I've seen in general.
Only view CNN for about a couple of hours a week at hotel in diff city--usually from 7 am to 8 am and 12 to 1.
Can't remember any of their names but all very appealing ladies for most part.
They (themselves) do not actually have much input but will have topic they show and then usually have short spiel from guest(liberal in most cases) in support of their side of topic.

 

[djv]

Lou Dobbs may have the most balanced news show on TV at this time. Now I'm talking news not B S shows.