OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS ? HUH?

[Lumi]

ATF let hundreds of U.S. weapons fall into hands of suspected Mexican gunrunners

Where are all the Anti-Gunners here?

This is Barry's pile of shit here?

What?

me worry?

 

[Lumi]

Another 'Fast and Furious' Obama Fiasco

Next question is?


Who is going to bring up Bush or Cheney first?

Shit !

I just did ! :toast:

 

[StevieD]

Another 'Fast and Furious' Obama Fiasco

Next question is?


Who is going to bring up Bush or Cheney first?

Shit !

I just did ! :toast:

Well not for nothing but none of this should be that much of a surprise as this is no doubt brought on by the same folks who gave us Iraq. Obama kept a lot of the Bush folks onboard if you remember. We vote for change but we did not get it. I find it amazing though that the Bush people love to bash Obama while defending the same actions taken by Bush. And so do some of the Obamas people defend him and blasing Bush. No one seems to notice they are cut from the same mold and are both Neocons though neither one admits it.

 

[Lumi]

Well not for nothing but none of this should be that much of a surprise as this is no doubt brought on by the same folks who gave us Iraq. Obama kept a lot of the Bush folks onboard if you remember. We vote for change but we did not get it. I find it amazing though that the Bush people love to bash Obama while defending the same actions taken by Bush. And so do some of the Obamas people defend him and blasing Bush. No one seems to notice they are cut from the same mold and are both Neocons though neither one admits it.

Stevie,

Taking not for nothing, gathering alot from something...

confused yet?

I am, almost....

All of these shills on the hill,
these turds that pretend to represent us,
are criminals ! !

Sure they fight each other on TV, Radio, Crapitol Shill, et al....

They are cut from the same mold, uhh, turd more like it.

Why isn't there more OUTRAGE HERE STEVE?

We constantly are bombarded with anti 2nd A propaganda in the media. Lies printed and spoken about how all the firearms in Mexico from American Gun Dealers, and here it is the ATF/US GOVT ran the OP !

 

[Lumi]

Chairman Issa Subpoenas ATF for 'Project Gunrunner' Documents

Chairman Issa Subpoenas ATF for 'Project Gunrunner' Documents

Chairman Issa Subpoenas ATF for 'Project Gunrunner' Documents


Subpoena comes after ATF fails to meet earlier deadline

 

[StevieD]

Stevie,

Taking not for nothing, gathering alot from something...

confused yet?

I am, almost....

All of these shills on the hill,
these turds that pretend to represent us,
are criminals ! !

Sure they fight each other on TV, Radio, Crapitol Shill, et al....

They are cut from the same mold, uhh, turd more like it.

Why isn't there more OUTRAGE HERE STEVE?

We constantly are bombarded with anti 2nd A propaganda in the media. Lies printed and spoken about how all the firearms in Mexico from American Gun Dealers, and here it is the ATF/US GOVT ran the OP !

There is outrage but is just directed in the wrong place. The Neocons have been sucessful in dividing the middle class. The Dems hate the Repubs but they both do the same thing!!!!!!!! Just like you said but they are masters at blaming each other.

Look Obama despite the Republicans getting voted out in record numbers in 08, Kept Bush's wars going, bailed out the rich, kept the Bush tax cuts, and has done nothing to help the middle class. If I didn't know better I would think Bush was elected to a third term. Masters of confusion!
You can't make this stuff up!

 

[Lumi]

Masters of confusion!

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1]</SUP>):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality?judiciously, as you will?we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors?and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."<SUP id=cite_ref-1 class=reference>[2]</SUP>
​

 

[StevieD]

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1]</SUP>):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality?judiciously, as you will?we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors?and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."<SUP id=cite_ref-1 class=reference>[2]</SUP>
​

Reminds me of Doggies posts. Creating his own reality!:142smilie But really, it is what we are left with here. And the fact that we at the mercy of the Corporate Media we have very little chance to change things. As Obama proved, even when we thought we did change things we didn't.

 

[Lumi]

We are left with the POWER OF THE MEPLE !

WE THE PEOPLE CAN PEACEFULLY OVER THROW THESE BUTT NUGGETS !

Steve,

Are you a Democrat, a Liberal?

Or do you see yourself as a Libertarian?

I know, Here we go again with Illy's Libertarian Ron Paul Rants !

Duh ! No Shit !

He is busting heads at the fed !:0074

He smokes the Faux News "Chosen Ones" at the CPAC ! And it is dismissed as a fluke !

Congress has yet to condemn Muslims in Afghanistan who have burned the U.S. flag and torched an effigy of Obama. According to MSNBC?s Chuck Todd, who filled in for Chris Matthews the other day, burning the Koran is far worse than burning the U.S. flag.

MSNBC?s Hardball Guest Tries To Explain Why Burning The Koran is Worse Than Burning The Bible


Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME ?

Seriously,

there has to come a time when one has to seperate themselves from the left/right paradigm, and think for themselves. Pull their head from their 4th point of contact, and think, "What the fuck did this ass clown just say?"

What Chuck Todd and this other dolt rambled on about is just as bad as one of Becky's M&M induced tirades.

We are giving away our rights and security to appease a group of people 10K miles away ! !

FUCK THEM

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Fuck the middle east
There's too many problems
They just get in the way
We sure could live without them
They hijack our planes
They raise our oil prices
We'll kill them all and have a ball
And end their fuckin' crisis
BEIRUT, LEBANON-Won't exist once we're done
LIBYA, IRAN-We'll flush the bastards down the can
SYRIANS and SHIITES-Crush their faces with our might
Then Israel and Egypt can live in peace without these dicks

 

[StevieD]

Steve,

Are you a Democrat, a Liberal?

Or do you see yourself as a Libertarian?

I know, Here we go again with Illy's Libertarian Ron Paul Rants !

Duh ! No Shit !

He is busting heads at the fed !:0074

He smokes the Faux News "Chosen Ones" at the CPAC ! And it is dismissed as a fluke !

Illuminati,

I am a radical.

I believe in the Free Market but I believe in keeping the playing field even.

I believe we need rock stars and the USA was a rock star. Not so sure about that anymore.

I think everyone has the right the make as money as they can but they have a responsibility to their workers. Just because a CEO can make millions in China he should still keep the work in America. Maybe only take a $10,000,000 bonus instead of a $50,000,000 one. What's the difference?

I would put curbs on the oil industry. They don't get to gouge us while making record profits. And anyone who can't see that is too stupid to vote. Let's see what Obama does if they start reporting record profits again while bringing the country to it's knees.

A bunch of other things too. I would of let the banks fail and would make the Auto CEO's return all those $7,500 rebates they got before giving themselves bonuses.

 

[Lumi]

You are off to a good start,

here....

I have no idea what else is in your grey matter?

Could be as spooky as mine? :0008

Stevie,

And whomever else is reading thru this thread.

We are beyond the baby steps to reclaiming our liberty. Let's not confuse this state in thinking that I want a Second Armed Revolution ! NEGATIVE ! I have already had my trigger time, and it was what it was.

We need a Second Political Revolution, a new understanding of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is what we need ! Who can be the new "Founding Father" of this Revolution?

How many people can you educate about this wave? And how many can they educate and so on...?

Look at how Facebook took off, same as Mad Jacks, these 2 social networks didn't start with a large community. 1 person told 3 and 3 told 5 each and so on !

We own this country and it is time to take it back. Brick by brick, start by removing the dog catcher and the criminal HOA, the mayor, the sheriff and work to the top.

Topple the large banks, boot the insurance companies that corn hole the people. Hold the media accountable for their actions, for their lap dog behavior.

Come to realize that Facebook, Google, Youtube are CIA Govt operations !

Go ahead now, laugh at Lumi.... but before you do, look it up !

Go to youtube, bring up any video.

Right Click on the video, go to settings, TA DA ! Would you look at that !

The info needs to spread now,
you know Lumi has it !

You want it ?

I will send it to you :toast:

 

[StevieD]

You are off to a good start,

here....

I have no idea what else is in your grey matter?

Could be as spooky as mine? :0008

:toast:

I don't see it as spooky at all. I see it as only common sense. We may not agree on everything but we want the same in the end. These other guys don't want that. I don't get how they think. Let us put the brakes on what a teacher can make but let the CEO's run wild. Let's give out all the corporate welfare we can but lets squash a single mother. I am for keeping both of them in line!

 

[ssd]

Interesting link that I think Lumi (and maybe some others would enjoy)

http://www.jrdeputyaccountant.com/2011/04/curious-case-of-fed-analyst-fired-after.html



Please end the FED.

 

[Lumi]

My view on your above statement:

Teachers should be paid right out of the box at a minimum (basing this on my location) 60K + benifits, but.... Let's really do something with the strong arm union. (I will catch shit for that)

*My mother was an educator for 28 years, in the Union, so I have an understanding how they operate*

I was a Govt. Employee as well as my father, we both served the POTUS, although he was much closer to the Commander in Chief, we both had our jobs to do, and were equally under paid.

Today's troops are under paid, under funded and it disgusts me to see and hear that troops and their dependents need further government assistance to live.

We need to certainly seperate which CEO's are in the arena of the Criminal Corps. I do take a personal interest in the statement because of my position, and my family members position in business. We do make a good living, as do the workers in the warehouse and shipping. Our sales force make a great living if the perform, BUT ! They don't want to be called on the carpet. I have spent some time on the company logo myself, mostly good, sometimes missing some ass.

The big dog, my dad, the Chairman, the CEO, gives out NO INTEREST LOANS to his employees who need financial assistance from time to time, and he has been paid back, always !

This company started with 3 people 19 years ago, those 3 people are still with the business and has grown to close to 100.

The big dog is close to 70, he doesn't want to step down, he pushes himself every day, sure he golfs, usually 77 to 83. Would he be considered rich, wealthy? I guess so, but he drives a very expensive car, I have been it the car with him when at a stop sign, if he spots a coin on the ground, he will put his car in park, get out and get the nickel. He doesn't give a shit if everyone is honking at him are cussing him out, he just replies, "Fuck them, you see what I am driving and what they drive" "Every nickel counts"

 

[StevieD]

My view on your above statement:

Teachers should be paid right out of the box at a minimum (basing this on my location) 60K + benifits, but.... Let's really do something with the strong arm union. (I will catch shit for that)

*My mother was an educator for 28 years, in the Union, so I have an understanding how they operate*

I was a Govt. Employee as well as my father, we both served the POTUS, although he was much closer to the Commander in Chief, we both had our jobs to do, and were equally under paid.

Today's troops are under paid, under funded and it disgusts me to see and hear that troops and their dependents need further government assistance to live.

We need to certainly seperate which CEO's are in the arena of the Criminal Corps. I do take a personal interest in the statement because of my position, and my family members position in business. We do make a good living, as do the workers in the warehouse and shipping. Our sales force make a great living if the perform, BUT ! They don't want to be called on the carpet. I have spent some time on the company logo myself, mostly good, sometimes missing some ass.

The big dog, my dad, the Chairman, the CEO, gives out NO INTEREST LOANS to his employees who need financial assistance from time to time, and he has been paid back, always !

This company started with 3 people 19 years ago, those 3 people are still with the business and has grown to close to 100.

The big dog is close to 70, he doesn't want to step down, he pushes himself every day, sure he golfs, usually 77 to 83. Would he be considered rich, wealthy? I guess so, but he drives a very expensive car, I have been it the car with him when at a stop sign, if he spots a coin on the ground, he will put his car in park, get out and get the nickel. He doesn't give a shit if everyone is honking at him are cussing him out, he just replies, "Fuck them, you see what I am driving and what they drive" "Every nickel counts"

That is the way a business should be. Not giving themselves so many million dollar bonuses that they nor their great grandchildren would ever spend the money if they never made another penny. But next year they will repeat the pornographic bonus again.