Oregon man sues Costco

[Old School]

Oregon man sues Costco, claims store security broke his leg


http://news.msn.com/us/oregon-man-sues-costco-claims-store-security-broke-his-leg

 

[MadJack]

When Walls refused, another Costco employee used a ?martial arts type strike? that fractured his leg in multiple locations, according to his civil complaint.

:facepalm:

 

[MadJack]

I hate that stupid policy where you have to show your receipt at the door. Costco, Samsclub and BestBuy are the only ones I've seen doing it. It creates a whole new line you have to wait in before you can GTFO. And it looks like you better show it or get a broken leg. :mj07:

 

[The Joker]

I hate that stupid policy where you have to show your receipt at the door.

I have walked right out on two occasions while there is a long line. I didn't care.

-Hedgehog

 

[hedgehog]

I have walked right out on two occasions while there is a long line. I didn't care.

-Hedgehog

EEEEEEEEERRRRRR wrong, I show my receipt every time and play by the rules :0003

I'm headed to Sams Saturday I will let you know :0074

this sounds like a bs lawsuit to me, should be thrown out of court

 

[ImFeklhr]

Very interesting. Is simply not showing your receipt sufficient evidence for them to attempt to detain you? Seems at best a grey area.

 

[Betone]

:bsflag

 

[yyz]

Very interesting. Is simply not showing your receipt sufficient evidence for them to attempt to detain you? Seems at best a grey area.

Well, where does it stop, then?


If I now know that you can't stop me, why wouldn't I toss a big screen TV in my cart after I checked out?

If security says that they saw me do this, can I just say, "Fuck off"? Again, where does it end? At some point, you have the right to protect your goods, and if some asshole refuses to show you his receipt, I have no sympathy for him getting 'held up' for a while.


Everyone in the country would be doing the "Ferguson Shuffle" right out the front door of every place they could if they could get away with it!

 

[ImFeklhr]

Well, where does it stop, then?


If I now know that you can't stop me, why wouldn't I toss a big screen TV in my cart after I checked out?

If security says that they saw me do this, can I just say, "Fuck off"? Again, where does it end? At some point, you have the right to protect your goods, and if some asshole refuses to show you his receipt, I have no sympathy for him getting 'held up' for a while.


Everyone in the country would be doing the "Ferguson Shuffle" right out the front door of every place they could if they could get away with it!

Don't have an answer. I just think we always have to be careful in allowing 1 person to detain another person. False imprisonment is against the law for a reason.
I guess retail stores are given some latitude if they have proof of shoplifting, but is opting out of a mandatory exit checkpoint enough proof to detain someone? Is it against the law to ignore the receipt police at CostCo? I have no idea. If I am not breaking a law I sure as hell better not be detained by anyone, especially a private citizen.

Now in reality everyone knows Costco does this, so if you object to this policy the best bet is to not shop there to begin with.

And regarding your pessimism regarding society coming apart at the seams if we don't allow stores to beat up non-conformists who may or may not be shoplifting... well I am sorry you are so cynical. My life experience has been different, I find that most people play by the rules even if aggressive enforcement isn't involved.

 

[Betone]

:0008

 

[yyz]

And regarding your pessimism regarding society coming apart at the seams if we don't allow stores to beat up non-conformists who may or may not be shoplifting... well I am sorry you are so cynical. My life experience has been different, I find that most people play by the rules even if aggressive enforcement isn't involved.

Of course. My "everyone", was meant to mean the people who choose to steal things. If there are no safeguards, then what?



It's just odd that a lot people would tell us that if someone was stealing from their home, they "should" be allowed to protect their property as far as they need to, even if that means shooting someone. Then, in the next breath, a store can't have measures in place to do the same?

 

[ImFeklhr]

If you read farther into the article it states that the customer assaulted the employee, so I guess thats ok since he was a paying customer. I wonder how many think it would be ok for your customers to grab you by the neck? Looks like self defense to me?

Retail is a damned if you do, damned if you don't industry if there ever was one.

There is this group of female thugs that shoplift in the high-end shopping district my company is in. They brazenly walk in and practically taunt our salesman knowing if they get in a fight they can sue and if they aren't followed around, they steal thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and run out.

 

[Betone]

Retail is a damned if you do, damned if you don't industry if there ever was one.

There is this group of female thugs that shoplift in the high-end shopping district my company is in. They brazenly walk in and practically taunt our salesman knowing if they get in a fight they can sue and if they aren't followed around, they steal thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and run out.

I agree :0074

 

[ImFeklhr]

Of course. My "everyone", was meant to mean the people who choose to steal things. If there are no safeguards, then what?



It's just odd that a lot people would tell us that if someone was stealing from their home, they "should" be allowed to protect their property as far as they need to, even if that means shooting someone. Then, in the next breath, a store can't have measures in place to do the same?

Yeah I don't know, I often take my devil's advocacy to an asinine level. Still an interesting conversation!

 

[gardenweasel]

Don't have an answer. I just think we always have to be careful in allowing 1 person to detain another person. False imprisonment is against the law for a reason.
I guess retail stores are given some latitude if they have proof of shoplifting, but is opting out of a mandatory exit checkpoint enough proof to detain someone? Is it against the law to ignore the receipt police at CostCo? I have no idea. If I am not breaking a law I sure as hell better not be detained by anyone, especially a private citizen.

Now in reality everyone knows Costco does this, so if you object to this policy the best bet is to not shop there to begin with.

And regarding your pessimism regarding society coming apart at the seams if we don't allow stores to beat up non-conformists who may or may not be shoplifting... well I am sorry you are so cynical. My life experience has been different, I find that most people play by the rules even if aggressive enforcement isn't involved.

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