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[fletcher]

heres a slow start.

matt williams out at least 2-3 months snaped a stick today,roids and cortisone makes for some brittle stems when you get older.

 

[wigs]

here are a few guys not nearly as ancient as williams but i thought it was amusing to see--

sure you saw this also fletch, espn ran a story "updating" the ages of several latin players:

Players who have recently been determined to be older than previously thought:

Player Team Old age New age
R. Furcal Atl. 21 23
B. Colon Cle. 26 28
R. Ortiz Ana. 26 29
N. Perez K.C. 26 28
J. Cruz ChC 21 23
J. Uribe Col. 21 22
M.Encarnacion Col. 24 26
M.Vargas Cle. 24 25
L.Taveras Atl. 24 26
E.Wilson NYY 26 28
D. Cruz S.D. 26 29
O. Dotel Hou. 26 28
T. Perez NYM 24 26
R. Ordonez NYM 29 31
L. Vizcaino Oak. 24 26

 

[taoist]

...and we wonder how that crazy chit can happen in the LL world series?? :shrug:

...be watchin' the baseball forum for the first time this year and lookin' for some good pointers from you and RAYMOND, fletch.

p.s. im still not too sure on you betting strategy for baseball, so if you get a chance and have a little time to explain it to a moron like myself, ya know.... i'll be watchin, man. thanks for all your help, man.

 

[fletcher]

i will go over it today some time.

 

[wondo]

They do that mostly because the agents that run the show down there throw the kids out of the program once they turn 18 and get another 12 yr old to join in. My buddy just got back from the DR and said there were guys running 6.2 and 6.3 and a good number out of the 150 at the workout ran 6.4 -- and that's with 5 watches and measured. They just play baseball and dont even go to school. But lots of things need to be ironed out... agents get a ton of the bonus and you dont even talk to the player until he's signed. everything through the agent.

 

[rrc]

If Fletcher doesn't mind....

If Fletcher doesn't mind....

A major part of his strategy is flat betting. We all know how lousy it feels to have $100 on a 2-1 fave, have it lose and find ourselves down $200. With his strategy you are limiting your losses to whatever your personal betting unit. If, for example your are willing to risk $100 per game, on a 2-1 fave you would bet $50 RISKING $100 (your loss limit per game). On an underdog you would bet (risk) $100 to win +150,+160 whatever. The key is never risking more than your betting unit on any one game. With this type of betting if he has a day when a bunch of heavy favorites go down he limits his losses. Hope this helps.

Hope I didn't step on any toes.

 

[Valuist]

I like that strategy. I usually try to avoid teams at lower than minus 160 so I don't have to worry about the heavy chalk often but I found myself using the run lines more last year. I think there's some good opportunities laying a run and a half, if you have a good offensive club and a solid closer to shut the door late in the game. There's also some decent opportunities getting a run and a half, esp if you're a road team where you know you'll get your 9 at-bats. But I can see that strategy being very plausible in situations where the run line may not be a good option.

 

[Stewy]

Here is a some advice.

Here is a some advice.

Limit the games you play on a daily basis. Stay away from Pedro Chalk, you will find yourself cussing the Boston Bullpen. Always bet the Yankees when they are facing Pedro, they are the only team that beats him on a regular basis. OVer Unders have alot of value early in the season till you know who the contenders and the pretenders are. During the pennant race bet on 3 game series. For example last year I bet on every Oakland and Seattle 3 game series for practically the last six weeks of the season.

When Boston plays Tampa Bay always lay the -1.5. When Texas plays Toronto always bet the over. When their are two suspect starters with no bullpen at Coors the over comes by the sixth or seventh inning. When the wind is blowing in at Wrigley on a coudy day bet the under, you wont find the line till10 minutes before the first pitch.

That's a few trends from last year, but most important is to limit your games everyday and come up with a unit system that works for you. Baseball is the marathon of all sports betting and dont get caught up in laying chalk on a bad day and you will be fine.

 

[Valuist]

Be careful on the Coors totals. They actually were 33 overs 43 unders and 5 pushes last year. I'm sure the public will perceive it as the other way around.

At Wrigley with the wind in, they'll hang a 7.5 or 8 up. If the wind is blowing out, its a 11-12. When you see a 9.5 at Wrigley they have no clue as to what the wind will do. When you see an early "7" or "12" there posted early, keep checking at weather.com because the wind here has been known to shift direction.

 

[JT]

Excellent point Valuist. Park effect is very underestimated, especially so in Coors. The problem with Colorado is the fact they think they have a good offense and poor pitching. Fact of the matter is the pitching is close to being good enough and the offense is not nearly so. Just check out the road numbers. :shrug:

 

[Stewy]

Alot of games don't go over at Coors

Alot of games don't go over at Coors

The numbers are posted high, but when you have a situation where both teams have to go to the bullpen early in the game then it's gonna go over easy. When Hampton faces, Matt Morris of course you don't just throw your money on the over because it's coors field.

 

[Terryray]

Many of the excellent under bets at Coors happen when a superb pitcher with a terrible record at Coors, like Schilling, is visiting.

And almost no one is ever worth an under 8 or 8.5 there because, as you say, when goes to the bullpen it frequently becomes batting practice.