Pat Buchanan: Commentary excerpt ~

[buddy]

"Is the American century over for good?"

"...How did the Democratic Party wish the commander in chief well on his mission for America?

During his first full day in Hanoi, a committee of Nancy Pelosi?s House held a public hearing featuring ex-Trump lawyer and ?fixer? Michael Cohen, a convicted perjurer and felon who cut a deal with the prosecution for a reduced sentence.

The city loved it. Cable and network TV coverage went gavel to gavel. Cohen?s testimony crowded out the Trump-Kim summit and even news of aerial clashes between India and Pakistan, two nuclear powers that have fought three wars since independence, 70 years ago.

What were the headlines Trump came home to after refusing to lift sanctions on North Korea, in return for meager concessions Kim offered?

?Cohen Paints Trump as Crooked? was the banner atop page one of The Washington Post. Cohen?s depiction of his old boss was boldly quoted above: ?He is a racist. He is a con man. And he is a cheat.?

?Cohen Accuses Trump of Lies and Cover-ups? ran the page-one headline in The New York Times.

?Cohen Declares Trump a Racist, Cheat and Conman? read the huge headline in the Financial Times.

Indulging its hatred of Trump is a preoccupation, an obsession of this capital city. Those headlines reveal not only the news judgment of the editors but the agenda of the elite who turn to them first every morning.

That agenda is the breaking of this president; his disgrace and fall; and, if impeachment proves not possible, his crushing defeat in 2020 and subsequent indictment. Our so-called Dreamers in Washington, D.C., look to the triumphal return to power of the establishment the American people threw out in 2016.

In the play unfolding, Cohen?s testimony to the House committee was scene one of act one.

Next comes the Mueller report, though it appears Robert Mueller and his team, after investigating for two years, have found no collusion between Trump and Vladimir Putin in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee or the Clinton campaign.

Hence, the hopes of Trump haters are being redirected to the U.S. Attorney?s Office for the Southern District of New York. Subjects of investigation: the Trump Organization, the Trump Inaugural Committee, the Trump Foundation, the Trump family and any entity with which Trump has been associated in 40 years.

As the president is chief of state and head of government, he cannot be indicted. He must first be removed from the presidency. But to remove him, Democrats have to impeach him in the House and convict him in a Republican Senate.

If they cannot, they will have to defeat him at the polls.

Today, a watching world is asking: If you Americans are at war with yourselves over race, religion, morality, culture and politics, if you cannot unite yourselves, how can you unite the world? And around what?

Maybe the American Century is really over.

Pat Buchanan is author of ?Nixon?s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.?

 

[Old School]

well the first thing you have to do is seat the peoples choice in any election for The President of The United States.

 

[buddy]

well the first thing you have to do is seat is the people's choice.

What does that mean?

 

[Old School]

What does that mean?

my bad Buddy did not proofread it..

well the first thing you have to do is seat the people's choice in any election for The President of The United States.

and there is a good chance that will come to pass in the near future.

one vote by each eligible voter to decide the leader..

 

[Duff Miver]

"Is the American century over for good?"

"...How did the Democratic Party wish the commander in chief well on his mission for America?

During his first full day in Hanoi, a committee of Nancy Pelosi?s House held a public hearing featuring ex-Trump lawyer and ?fixer? Michael Cohen, a convicted perjurer and felon who cut a deal with the prosecution for a reduced sentence.

The city loved it. Cable and network TV coverage went gavel to gavel. Cohen?s testimony crowded out the Trump-Kim summit and even news of aerial clashes between India and Pakistan, two nuclear powers that have fought three wars since independence, 70 years ago.

What were the headlines Trump came home to after refusing to lift sanctions on North Korea, in return for meager concessions Kim offered?

?Cohen Paints Trump as Crooked? was the banner atop page one of The Washington Post. Cohen?s depiction of his old boss was boldly quoted above: ?He is a racist. He is a con man. And he is a cheat.?

?Cohen Accuses Trump of Lies and Cover-ups? ran the page-one headline in The New York Times.

?Cohen Declares Trump a Racist, Cheat and Conman? read the huge headline in the Financial Times.

Indulging its hatred of Trump is a preoccupation, an obsession of this capital city. Those headlines reveal not only the news judgment of the editors but the agenda of the elite who turn to them first every morning.

That agenda is the breaking of this president; his disgrace and fall; and, if impeachment proves not possible, his crushing defeat in 2020 and subsequent indictment. Our so-called Dreamers in Washington, D.C., look to the triumphal return to power of the establishment the American people threw out in 2016.

In the play unfolding, Cohen?s testimony to the House committee was scene one of act one.

Next comes the Mueller report, though it appears Robert Mueller and his team, after investigating for two years, have found no collusion between Trump and Vladimir Putin in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee or the Clinton campaign.

Hence, the hopes of Trump haters are being redirected to the U.S. Attorney?s Office for the Southern District of New York. Subjects of investigation: the Trump Organization, the Trump Inaugural Committee, the Trump Foundation, the Trump family and any entity with which Trump has been associated in 40 years.

As the president is chief of state and head of government, he cannot be indicted. He must first be removed from the presidency. But to remove him, Democrats have to impeach him in the House and convict him in a Republican Senate.

If they cannot, they will have to defeat him at the polls.

Today, a watching world is asking: If you Americans are at war with yourselves over race, religion, morality, culture and politics, if you cannot unite yourselves, how can you unite the world? And around what?

Maybe the American Century is really over.

Pat Buchanan is author of ?Nixon?s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.?

Listen up, buddy. We know you're one dumb fuck, and this has been explained before, but TRY, for all of 30 seconds to focus your meager number of brain cells long enough to learn just one fact.

"Collusion" is not a crime. Nobody gives a shit whether Trump colluded or not. Not. one. shit.

Conspiracy is a crime. If Trump is guilty, he could do the rest of his life in jail.

Fraud is a crime. If Guilty, Trump could be fined or go to jail.

Tax Evasion is a crime. If guilty, Trump could be fined or go to jail.

Lying to Federal Officials is a crime. If guilty, Trump could go to jail.

All of the above for his rotten children and their spouses are crimes too, iof they are found guilty.

Trump's boys, Gates, Manafort and Cohen are already convicted and headed to jail for a very long time.

When it's found that Trump conspired with them to commit crimes, he'll be in the slammer too. With a big, mean, black homosexual cellmate.

I can see it now; Drop them draws, whitey. You gonna ride the blacksnake.

 

[buddy]

my bad Buddy did not proofread it..

well the first thing you have to do is seat the people's choice in any election for The President of The United States.

and there is a good chance that will come to pass in the near future.

one vote by each eligible voter to decide the leader..

"The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens."...

My feeling is elected officials will never allow the citizenry to have full control of their decision making.

Even the founding fathers had concerns of what may happen or they never would have established it as a "compromise".

Elected officials will always believe they are smarter, wiser and have far more aptitude than those they are supposed to represent. After all, they were ELECTED. Elected, in other words, means entitlement and entitlement means privileged. Exclusive privilege.

Having your vote actually count for something significant is little more than a pipe dream.

 

[Skulnik]

my bad Buddy did not proofread it..

well the first thing you have to do is seat the people's choice in any election for The President of The United States.

and there is a good chance that will come to pass in the near future.

one vote by each eligible voter to decide the leader..

Because Voters in California and New York know better, no thanks.

 

[Duff Miver]

Because Voters in California and New York know better, no thanks.

One man, one vote. What's your problem with that. Do tell, skulnutz. :0008

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

"The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens."...

My feeling is elected officials will never allow the citizenry to have full control of their decision making.

Even the founding fathers had concerns of what may happen or they never would have established it as a "compromise".

Elected officials will always believe they are smarter, wiser and have far more aptitude than those they are supposed to represent. After all, they were ELECTED. Elected, in other words, means entitlement and entitlement means privileged. Exclusive privilege.

Having your vote actually count for something significant is little more than a pipe dream.

It was a compromise to appease the slave states. Can you please share more on that and whether or not it seems applicable in 2019?

 

[Skulnik]

One man, one vote. What's your problem with that. Do tell, skulnutz. :0008

Easy, those FUCKED up States ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL Voting, wise up!!!


TIA

 

[buddy]

It was a compromise to appease the slave states. Can you please share more on that and whether or not it seems applicable in 2019?

Hey! I have an idea. Let me know what you think, okay?

Here on the world wide web there is a search engine called "google".
It's like an electronic encyclopedia, only better.

You can ask it all kinds of things and it provides a variety of information for you to browse
and choose that which is most in accord with your line of thinking.

For example, you could ask whether or not the electoral college was a compromise to appease the slave states and whether or not that same compromise seems applicable in 2019?

This way, you could actually make a genuine effort to personally contribute to the forum rather than wait for someone else to do what you can do for yourself.

I really like this idea.

How about you?

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Hey! I have an idea. Let me know what you think, okay?

Here on the world wide web there is a search engine called "google".
It's like an electronic encyclopedia, only better.

You can ask it all kinds of things and it provides a variety of information for you to browse
and choose that which is most in accord with your line of thinking.

For example, you could ask whether or not the electoral college was a compromise to appease the slave states and whether or not that same compromise seems applicable in 2019?

This way, you could actually make a genuine effort to personally contribute to the forum rather than wait for someone else to do what you can do for yourself.

I really like this idea.

How about you?

You made a big point to talk about COMPROMISE, so you must have a strong understanding that I can't get from Google. Please enlighten us. Does it apply in 2019?

The Republican candidates have won the popular vote in one election in the past 30 years yet they have taken the office three times. Is that the voice of the people or the product of an antiquated COMPROMISE?

 

[Penguinfan]

One man, one vote. What's your problem with that. Do tell, skulnutz. :0008

Duff, my man, for your own good this is something you simply do not want to happen. Take the membership of the board here at MadJack's as a microcosm of what the US would be like if "one person, one vote" actually happened.

If you presented an issue to the members here to vote on, regardless of the issue, they would find a way to fuck it up beyond all recognition and then you would get outvoted by dumbasses and have to live with the consequence. America overall is just no different. The few intelligent people we have would get outvoted by the overwhelming number of dumbasses in this country and we would have to live with the results.

Think about that. Do you really want the overwhelming number of Hedgies and Skulnutz of the world to decide how our country is run? I'll pass on that. Democracy, still to this day, is nothing more than mob rules. The mob doesn't have to be right to get what it wants in a democracy, it just has to be the majority. Look out your window, what do you think the majority consists of?


Pitchforks and torches are way underrated this day and age.

 

[Duff Miver]

Duff, my man, for your own good this is something you simply do not want to happen. Take the membership of the board here at MadJack's as a microcosm of what the US would be like if "one person, one vote" actually happened.

If you presented an issue to the members here to vote on, regardless of the issue, they would find a way to fuck it up beyond all recognition and then you would get outvoted by dumbasses and have to live with the consequence. America overall is just no different. The few intelligent people we have would get outvoted by the overwhelming number of dumbasses in this country and we would have to live with the results.

Think about that. Do you really want the overwhelming number of Hedgies and Skulnutz of the world to decide how our country is run? I'll pass on that. Democracy, still to this day, is nothing more than mob rules. The mob doesn't have to be right to get what it wants in a democracy, it just has to be the majority. Look out your window, what do you think the majority consists of?


Pitchforks and torches are way underrated this day and age.

Uncle P -

Don't confuse the ignorant rabble on this board with the population overall. Our country is full of folks of 100 IQs (+ or - 20). And many of them are reasonable. Hedge and skulnutz are outliers. I mean, other than the profoundly stupid and we who enjoy exposing their stupidity, this forum is tiny, and not a microcosm of the population. I mean, where else would folks even bother to read skulnutz' stupid crap. Think of this forum as a place where the mentally competent can poke sticks at the mentally challenged. It's like pulling the lags off cockroaches. Cruel, but simple amusement on cold, rainy, boring days.

You really need to get out more.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

The electoral college has made it possible that a vote in Wyoming is worth nearly 4 times more than a vote in California. This is not equitable since populations have drastically changed over the years. It needs to be modified because the gap will continue to get larger. The numbers are something like this....California has one electoral vote per 712,000 people. Wyoming, the least populous state in the country, has one electoral vote per 195,000 people. The electoral college is not representative of the overall population and representing the population fairly and equitably, is the true definition of a Democracy.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

The electoral college has made it possible that a vote in Wyoming is worth nearly 4 times more than a vote in California. This is not equitable since populations have drastically changed over the years. It needs to be modified because the gap will continue to get larger. The numbers are something like this....California has one electoral vote per 712,000 people. Wyoming, the least populous state in the country, has one electoral vote per 195,000 people. The electoral college is not representative of the overall population and representing the population fairly and equitably, is the true definition of a Democracy.

The Republicans have won the popular vote once in 30 years but have won the presidency three times. The EC is their best hope so they'll be holding onto this antiquated anti-democratic system for the foreseeable future.

 

[Penguinfan]

Uncle P -

Don't confuse the ignorant rabble on this board with the population overall. Our country is full of folks of 100 IQs (+ or - 20). And many of them are reasonable. Hedge and skulnutz are outliers. I mean, other than the profoundly stupid and we who enjoy exposing their stupidity, this forum is tiny, and not a microcosm of the population. I mean, where else would folks even bother to read skulnutz' stupid crap. Think of this forum as a place where the mentally competent can poke sticks at the mentally challenged. It's like pulling the lags off cockroaches. Cruel, but simple amusement on cold, rainy, boring days.

You really need to get out more.

Bro, I want to believe you are right, I really do. The evidence all around me is simply overwhelming to the contrary, though.

Maybe it's just where I live here in Western PA, but around here you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a lethal amount of stupid.

 

[Duff Miver]

Bro, I want to believe you are right, I really do. The evidence all around me is simply overwhelming to the contrary, though.

Maybe it's just where I live here in Western PA, but around here you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a lethal amount of stupid.

I've spent some time in W. PA. Yes, it's a bit rednecky, but...you ought to visit AR, WV, south AL, or anywhere in MS. They're breathtakingly ignorant. And damned proud of it.

Just one vignette for you.

I was driving down a scarcely traveled paved road in WV. There was virtually no traffic. Standing on the shoulder was a middle aged white redneck woman with her thumb out. I stopped to give her a lift to the next town.

She told me she was leaving her husband. She didn't mind when the welfare folks took their children because the house was vermin infected, and there was no food. And she didn't mind too much when he slapped her around. But the previous night was too much. Her husband and two of his drunk buddies had come in late. Husband said "This here's my old lady. You boys can fuck her if you want." which they both did, while he sat on the couch swilling beer and laughing.

Jes' some good-ole-boys havin' fun. That's rural WV.

 

[Penguinfan]

I've spent some time in W. PA. Yes, it's a bit rednecky, but...you ought to visit AR, WV, south AL, or anywhere in MS. They're breathtakingly ignorant. And damned proud of it.

Just one vignette for you.

I was driving down a scarcely traveled paved road in WV. There was virtually no traffic. Standing on the shoulder was a middle aged white redneck woman with her thumb out. I stopped to give her a lift to the next town.

She told me she was leaving her husband. She didn't mind when the welfare folks took their children because the house was vermin infected, and there was no food. And she didn't mind too much when he slapped her around. But the previous night was too much. Her husband and two of his drunk buddies had come in late. Husband said "This here's my old lady. You boys can fuck her if you want." which they both did, while he sat on the couch swilling beer and laughing.

Jes' some good-ole-boys havin' fun. That's rural WV.

I've been to WV enough to know your story may not be true, but absolutely could be. "Breathtakingly ignorant" would be funny, it it weren't true.

Sorry, I just don't want those people voting at the same level of accountability as my finance manager at work, you know? To be fair, my finance manager and myself disagree politically on most subjects, but I respect he is educated enough to have an opinion based on something other than Red/Blue or "Guns, Merica".

 

[Duff Miver]

I've been to WV enough to know your story may not be true, but absolutely could be.

The story is true. In fact I remember the date and place - July 4, 1994, on the road from Spencer* to Ripley. Not the sort of encounter you forget.

Some time I'll tell you a true Mississippi story....Naw, in fact I'll tell you now.

A friend was driving down a paved but rural Mississippi road late at night. He's a lifelong non-drinker, so was sober, but something distracted him. Maybe he was fiddling with the radio, maybe he nodded off. To this day he does not know.

In any event he struck a man walking along the road. He stopped and went to the man, who appeared to be dead. Not knowing what to do, he flagged the first car that came along, told them what had happened and asked them to go to the nearest telephone and call the sheriff.

After a while the sheriff pulled up.

"What's the problem son?"

"I...I...hit a man and I think he's dead."

The sheriff got out his flashlight and examined the man.

"Yep, he's dead, alright."

My friend broke down, shaking and sobbing - "Oh my God, I've killed a man. Oh my God. Oh my God."

The sheriff kindly put his arm around the young man's shoulder to comfort him -

"Now son, don't take it so hard. It's just a nigger."

My friend soon left for California and hasn't set foot in Mississippi since. I left a few years later and haven't been back to that shithole since.

* Sometime when you're bored, go to the City-Data.com website. Look up Spencer WV. Scroll on down until you get to the list of convicted sex offenders. Compare the number to the total population. And that's just the ones who have been convicted.