Penn State Penalties will be announced this morning
- Thread starter The Boys
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As expected, NCAA HAMMERS Penn St. 4-year bowl ban. 10 fewer scholarship for 4 years. Records vacated.
I agree Cie,
They deserved it. I don't think it's harsh given the circumstances of the situation. Also, I'm glad it sends a message.
kneifl
They deserved it. I don't think it's harsh given the circumstances of the situation. Also, I'm glad it sends a message.
kneifl
no, this is essentially the death penalty though :shrug: 60 million dollar fine goes to whom? the victims
This is an incredibly complex problem and as with all complex problems, the NCAA completely screwed this up.
This penalty amounts to nothing more than penalizing the people who are currently there, who had nothing to do with this. Unlike a politician, though, I have my own recommendation for the punishment.
Give them the death penalty for 3 years, maybe even 4. Shut it down completely. Just the football program, everything else can go ahead as planned. This is one year more than SMU and extremely harsh.
ALL of the players on the current roster have two options. They can stay at PSU and finish their degree on scholarship. They can transfer to another program. Penn St. pays their scholarship. These transfers will not count against another school?s total # of scholarships (thus making the transferring easier) but each school can only pick up say up to 4 or 5 of them.
All of the coaching staff has their salaries paid for this current year (gives them one year to find a job). Ancillary staff have their salaries paid for the duration of the death penalty if they choose to stay.
INSTEAD of this, the myopic and idiotic NCAA conferred a competitive disadvantage on Penn St. I don?t give a crap about their football program, this is much larger than that. Making them bad at football doesn?t fix anything, and instead just ruins the college experiences of the kids that are there. Give them easy outs, punish the school, they are the ones that screwed it up.
This penalty amounts to nothing more than penalizing the people who are currently there, who had nothing to do with this. Unlike a politician, though, I have my own recommendation for the punishment.
Give them the death penalty for 3 years, maybe even 4. Shut it down completely. Just the football program, everything else can go ahead as planned. This is one year more than SMU and extremely harsh.
ALL of the players on the current roster have two options. They can stay at PSU and finish their degree on scholarship. They can transfer to another program. Penn St. pays their scholarship. These transfers will not count against another school?s total # of scholarships (thus making the transferring easier) but each school can only pick up say up to 4 or 5 of them.
All of the coaching staff has their salaries paid for this current year (gives them one year to find a job). Ancillary staff have their salaries paid for the duration of the death penalty if they choose to stay.
INSTEAD of this, the myopic and idiotic NCAA conferred a competitive disadvantage on Penn St. I don?t give a crap about their football program, this is much larger than that. Making them bad at football doesn?t fix anything, and instead just ruins the college experiences of the kids that are there. Give them easy outs, punish the school, they are the ones that screwed it up.
There are a lot of kids at USC that are being punished by not going to bowls and they didn't have anything to do with Reggie Bush's parents getting a house for free. Did you say anything about those kids.
Unfortunately when some people screw up with their decisions others have to pay as well. Should we just excuse adults for crimes when they have kids so those kids won't have to suffer while their parent is in prison?
These kids in all reality aren't losing anything. They can still play football and they still get the most important part and that's a free education. Using them to say this shouldn't have happened is a cop out.
Except the difference is USC was doing things that gave them a competitive advantage. What happened at PSU had nothing to do with football, it is instead a complete failure of an institution of higher learning run by adults.
When teams cheat to get ahead, you give them penalties to put them at a competitive disadvantage. When institutions allow for child rape to knowingly take place on their campus, you shut them down and put people in jail.
So if Sandusky was a retired science professor instead of a football coach, he would have been allowed to have access to the facilities after the allegations and all the incidents were brought to the administrators attention? I really have a hard time believing many could actually convince themselves that would be the case.
It did have to do with football. Were they cheating on the field or even off the field in recruiting? No. However, it is clear the football program was intertwined and the power that program has at that institution.
What did USC do? They didn't do anything, an agent did something with Bush so USC got slapped.
Penn State did something in not doing anything. I would agrue it did help their football program because it avoided bad press during those year which would or could have hurt recruiting.
I've said this 5 times on here. Why didn't they disclose in the first place? To protect the football program. Why else would they have? If JoePa had reported it in 1998, he would have been the hero, not the villian.
So why didn't they report it, then? Because they thought by doing so it would cause harm to the program. Surely, they would have lost some recruits for the short-term and some donor $$. So, by NOT reporting it, they gained an advantage they wouldn't have had if they went to the police.
This is a football issue, and I have yet to hear a legitimate argument to the statements I just made.
Finally!
I haven't heard a single sports commentator mention this point and it's the obvious!
Sure, I agree with this.
But applying typical punishments (to a larger degree of course) for recruiting and benefits violations, etc, is preposterous when compared to allowing for child rape to take place.
Why would anyone want this program to be up and running next year?? So the frats and sororities have something to do no fall Saturdays? So the alums can go back and remember the good times? That's all bullcrap. It should have been a simple you aren't playing for a few years, then you rebuild from scratch. Penn St. should have been wiped off the map.
I guess I misspoke that it didn't have to do with football. It had to do with football but did not provide a competitive advantage. Sure, covering it up preserved the program, but in no way did it help it.
That's why they should straight shut it down. They shouldn't be allowed to have a football program as they were too irresponsible to run one. Off the map, start from scratch.
while true, they have to find a school with an open scholarship. if you are not a star, good luck with that.
transfers in this case should not count against allotments, and penn st should pay their way.
That's pretty big news. It won't count against their scholarship count this year but will in future years. So if it puts you over it's no big deal for this year but next year you'll have one less available.
Sharks in the water up there I would imagine.
