Peter Gammons is a scumbag

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Rose shows lack of respect

By Peter Gammons
Special to ESPN.com


I have always maintained that if Bud Selig decreed Pete Rose eligible for the Hall of Fame pending the vote of the Baseball Writers Association, I would vote for him as a player. Now I hear Bud is going to issue a two-year probation and make Rose eligible only by the vote of the veterans' committee. Fine. Because these last two days have made me rethink my initial decision to vote for him.

First, in betting on baseball as manager -- a position that demands standards higher than those for players -- Rose demonstrated a complete lack of respect or caring for the game.

Then came this week. Turning around on Bart Giamatti? Despicable.

Also, the fact that he has orchestrated the release of his book and his admission of guilt at a time when Dennis Eckersley and Paul Molitor -- two great people who overcame a lot, which Rose hasn't yet -- are being elected is a bold statement that he has no respect for Cooperstown, and that he wants to be in the Hall for one reason -- to make money to feed his addictions.

This is a man who admitted something in a forum in which he can make money. He has no remorse, no respect for anything but his next bet. Rose is perhaps the lowest figure in baseball in my 32 years of covering the sport.

Fay Vincent, a very good man who deserves all of baseball's apologies for the way he was treated, refuted that "the fans want Pete in Cooperstown" argument by pointing out that, in 1947, 15 of 16 owners voted not to allow Jackie Robinson into the majors -- and 85 percent of Americans were against such integration, too. Well, what Branch Rickey did against public opinion, seven years before Brown v. Board of Education, is the single most important moment in baseball and sports history, proof that it's not about what the majority wants at one moment. It's about what's right.

And until Pete Rose proves to me that he cares about something other than Pete Rose, he does not have my vote.

Eckersley had addiction problems, admitted them, confronted them and became a Hall of Famer. Same with Molitor.

What they did never impaired the integrity of baseball.

As far as I'm concerned, Rose can go to Cooperstown and sign tawdry items for those who, like him, have no respect for integrity, baseball or the Hall of Fame.
 

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I agree what Pete has done is wrong and bad for baseball but its over and done and what he did for baseball was a hell of alot more than this. It makes me sick that these players today can be busted for DRUGS over and over and are still playing getting chance after chance. So dont let him coach again fine ! but f*ck re-instate him so he can go to the HALL OF FAME. This is f*cking disgusting already. Now they will put him on probation for 2 years and he will have to be voted in by the veterans committee ??? BS

hey bud selig get your head out of your ass and do the right thing !
 

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When did he write that? I saw an interview with him on espn TODAY in which he was asked if he would vote for Rose if he was on the ballot, and Gammons said he would.
 

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I agree with Gammons. Rose stealing the thunder of Eck and Molly is hogwash. An admission of guilt long after the fire went out isn't much of an admission imho.

Gammons references Molitor's personal problems above. This never really made big national headlines, but most Milwaukee locals will tell you that Molitor had many personal problems in his early playing days. Molitor in his 20s was a very different person than the Blue Jays' Molitor in his 40s.

Molitor was a joy to watch play. He was hurt a lot, and much of that had to do with leaving his heart on the diamond every day.
 

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If my memory is correct (doubtful) isn't our own BeanTownJim a "close, personal friend" of Gammons? I believe Beanie told us he played golf with Gammons last year. Or maybe it was Yaz or Clemens or Pedro. Maybe Beanie can look in to this on behalf of all the Madjackers.
 

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agree with gammons...

liar....wife beater.....tax cheat...what`s not to like....

i will say this...listening to him talk,he may have a defense as far as incapacity is concerned.....

if he were just a few i.q. points southward,he`d be an inanimate object.....
 

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I do not beleive that Rose deserves to be re instated at all.

His time for admission was 14 years ago. If he had come clean he would have been back in baseballl and the hall along time ago. i can forgive him for the gambling. He is only human. Had he made a sincere attempt to get some help for his problem back them, all would be forgiven.

instead he chooose to deny and lie and slander men like Giambatti, Fay Vincent, John Dowd, and others. He has had a part in the downfall in the integity of baseball that has occured in the last 15 years.

If baseball wants to reinstate Rose, fine. They can do it one day after they reinstate Shoeless Joe. His case for reinstatement is much stronger then Roses IMHO. SJJ was boderline retarded, illiterate, and most likely unaware of the ramifications of taking the money. There was no evidence that he threw any game and was cleared in a court of law.

I am not advocating for SJJ to be reinstated because I agree that gambling by players is unforgiveable but if your going to reinstate Rose, then reinstate SJJ.

Prior to 14 years ago, i had nothing against Rose. The last 14 have shown him to be a true scumbag. He does not deserve our pity.
 

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Dope fiends, hypes, and wife-beaters shouldn't be in the Hall

Neither should pathetic, weak-minded, spineless, lying pukes that ran every ground ball out hard;)
 
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