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Unarmed honors student shot in the back.
Nice work by Philly's finest.
Mr. two-hours cop will be doing time.
Nice work by Philly's finest.
Mr. two-hours cop will be doing time.
Same honors student who had gun clip on him and was reportedly involved in armed robbery earlier in the day?
You forgot to mention he was black, had an Afro, a gold tooth, and said "muhfugger". too.
Gun clip? Reportedly?
None of those things are crimes. NONE OF THEM.
The cop shot a man who did not threaten him or anyone else with deadly force.
Clear case of manslaughter, minimum. Murder 1 if the prosecutor can prove intent.
Buy-bye cop. 12 years to life.
Try to smarten up sometime, lowell, yo' muhfugger.
The cop will get off free and clear, I'm actually surprised it's going to trial. The kid was confirmed to have been involved in a drive by shooting earlier in the day and was a "threat to the public at large". That gives the cop reason enough to use deadly force.
I'm not saying it's right.
"Confirmed"? Hmmm. Don't you mean suspected? And, if he were involved, was he the shooter, shootee, bystander, what? Who was he confirmed by?
The article says the kid showed his empty hands, then ran, and the officer shot him in the back. That's manslaughter.
So, no. The cop did not have reason to use deadly force. He did not know whether the kid had fired shots earlier, and he did know the kid was unarmed.
Will a white cop get convicted for gunning down an unarmed black kid?
Duff, I can only go by the details our media gives us here. To be fair, our media is heavily biased in favor of the Pittsburgh police. Yes, he was confirmed by officers to be the driver in a drive by shooting, when the car was stopped he ran. Yes, he was unarmed but reportedly turned toward police the the clip in his hand and pointed it as though it were a gun and the officer opened fire. The officer missed with the first few shots giving the kid time to turn and run but at that point the officer was not about to simply stop shooting.
Again, these are the points made by the officer and confirmed by his partner and that is what the jury is going to have to go with because the victim can't speak on his behalf. Is this all true? I have zero idea, but that's what will be accepted as fact given the circumstance.
Here in Pittsburgh if you had to trust a cop or a priest I'm not sure what decision I would make. The two outfits we were taught as kids to trust in the time of emergency or panic are the exact outfits I have taught my kids to avoid.
Tue., June 19
● 8:27 p.m.: Police respond to reports of a drive-by shooting on Kirkpatrick Avenue in North Braddock.
● 8:40 p.m.: East Pittsburgh police officer Michael Rosfeld pulls over a car that matches the description of the one involved in the drive-by. 17-year-old Antwon Rose Jr. gets out of the car and runs away from Rosfeld. Rosfeld opens fire, hitting Rose three times. Rose is unarmed at the time of the shooting. There are guns on the floor of the car, and Rose has an empty 9mm ammunition magazine in his pocket.
● 9:07 p.m.: A Facebook user named Shauny Mary posts an 18-second video of the shooting. In it, two people are seen running from a car; a police officer fires three shots at them. ?Why are they shooting?? the woman filming says. ?All they did was run, and they?re shooting at them.?
● 9:19 p.m. Rose is pronounced dead at McKeesport Hospital.
Wed., June 20
● 12:39 a.m.: In response to a viral tweet, which includes Shauny Mary?s video of the shooting, by writer and activist Shaun King, Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto tweets, ?It wasn?t in Pittsburgh. It was in the suburbs of East Pittsburgh. Not part of the city. Not Pittsburgh Police. Not Pittsburgh. Please clarify.?
● 12:51 p.m.: Peduto tweets a press release apologizing for the earlier tweet. The release reads in part: ?While Tuesday's shooting was not within the city's official borders it impacts all of us in the Pittsburgh region, and particularly those in the African American community. In my reactions to the incident I should have acknowledged that these shootings affect all of us, no matter where we live, and for that I am sorry.?
● Evening: Hundreds of protesters slowly gather outside East Pittsburgh Police headquarters, chanting and marching. Chants include a call-and-response in which a protestor with a megaphone shouts ?Say his name!? and the crowd?s response of ?Antwon Rose Jr.!?
Thu., June 21
● Early afternoon: Thousands of protesters gather outside the Allegheny County Courthouse Downtown. Local activist Leon Ford, who was paralyzed after a police shooting in 2012, tells a crowd, ?Antwon didn't die in vain. It is going to be Antwon who is going to help change things.?
● 6 p.m.: Hundreds of protesters gather outside East Pittsburgh Police headquarters for the second straight day.
● 9 p.m.: Those protesters march to the Parkway East, blocking traffic in both directions between the Squirrel Hill Tunnel and the Churchill exit.
Fri., June 22
● 1 a.m.: Police tell protesters on the Parkway East to disperse or be arrested.
● 1:30 a.m.: Police officers in riot gear arrive to disperse the crowd.
● 2 a.m.: Police move in on the remaining protesters to disperse them. One woman is arrested.
● 2:12 p.m.: WPXI reports that a video shows Rose firing a weapon in the North Braddock drive-by. That report is based on anonymous police sources. Allegheny County District Attorney Steven Zappala confirmed that there is video from the North Braddock drive-by, though he refused to go into detail regarding what the video shows.
● 2:51 p.m.: KDKA also reports the existence of video showing Rose firing a gun, additionally reporting that gunshot residue was found on Rose?s hands. Those reports, like WPXI?s, are based on anonymous police sources.
● 3:11 p.m.: Allegheny County Director of Communications Amie Downs releases a statement calling the reports of Rose firing a weapon false.
● 5:30 p.m.: A crowd of about 50 protesters gathers outside the Wood Street T station Downtown, beginning the third straight day of protests.
● 5:51 p.m.: That crowd begins marching down Liberty Avenue toward Market Square.
● 6:12 p.m.: That crowd occupies the intersection of Liberty Avenue and Sixth Street for more than 20 minutes.
● 7:28 p.m.: The Allegheny County Police Department releases a statement from Police Superintendent Coleman McDonough calling both the reports of Rose firing a weapon on video and of Rose having gunshot residue on his hands false. The department confirms the existence of video from the North Braddock drive-by, but states that it does not show Rose firing a weapon.
● 8:47 p.m.: The crowd of protesters Downtown, now in the hundreds, crosses the Roberto Clemente Bridge to the North Shore.
● 9:15 p.m.: The Homestead Grays Bridge is closed between the Waterfront and 8th Avenue exits due to a related but separate protest.
● 9:18 p.m.: A tow truck driver on the North Shore gets out of his truck, sits on the roof and shouts racial obscenities at protesters while giving the finger. He is arrested by police.
● 9:54 p.m.: The protesters on the North Shore gather outside PNC Park, where the Pirates and Diamondbacks are in extra innings.
● 10:30 p.m.: The Homestead Grays Bridge reopens.
● 10:57 p.m.: The Pirates lose to the Diamondbacks, 2-1, in extra innings. An announced crowd of 24,843 emerges from PNC Park to find General Robinson Street blocked by protesters.
● 11:00 p.m.: A black Mercedes-Benz sedan plows through a crowd of protesters at the intersection of Gen. Robinson St and Tony Dorsett Drive.
● 11:09 p.m.: Police in riot gear arrive on the North Shore.
● 11:56 p.m.: The crowd of protesters departs the North Shore and heads back Downtown, crossing the Roberto Clemente Bridge again.
Sat., June 23
● 12:06 a.m.: The protest ends at the intersection of Liberty Avenue and Sixth Street, over six hours after it began. Over the course of the night, four people (including the tow truck driver) are arrested.
● 10 a.m.: A crowd marches from Freedom Corner in the Hill District to Point State Park in a combination of a protest for Rose and a celebration of Juneteenth. U.S. Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Forest Hills), U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Mount Lebanon), State Rep.-elect Summer Lee (D-Swissvale) and State Rep. Ed Gainey (D-East Liberty) all speak in support of Rose at the march. Gainey says, ?There is no justification for shooting someone in the back.?
● 12:29 p.m.: The march ends at Point State Park.
● 8:07 p.m.: A protest begins to form at the intersection of East Carson and 23rd streets in the South Side.
● 9:13 p.m.: About 100 protesters block the intersection of East Carson and South 20th streets.
● 9:22 p.m.: Those protesters, now nearing a group of about 200, begin marching down East Carson Street.
Sun., June 24
● 12:15 a.m.: As the crowd of protesters reaches the intersection of East Carson Street and the Birmingham Bridge, police tell the protesters they have five minutes to disperse. The crowd breaks up, with some protesters heading into nearby bars. No one is arrested.
● 4 p.m.: A visitation for Rose is held at Tunnie Funeral Home in Homestead.
Mon., June 25
● 11 a.m.: Rose?s funeral ? open only to family, friends and former classmates ? is held at Woodland Hills Intermediate School.
● 11:30 p.m.: A juvenile, believed to be the other passenger who ran from the vehicle, is arrested in the Hill District.
Tue., June 26
● 6:56 a.m.: A group of protestors gather at Freedom Corner in the Hill District. This is the fifth day of protests in the seven since Rose?s death.
● 8:01 a.m.: The protestors march Downtown, where they block off the intersection of Grant Street and the Boulevard of the Allies.
● 10:10 a.m.: The protest ends.
● Noon: The Allegheny County Sheriff's Department confirms the arrest of the other passenger of the vehicle Rose was in. Wed., June 27
● 7:32 a.m.: Criminal homicide charges are filed against Rosfeld, who turns himself in to police.
● 8:09 a.m.: The juvenile arrested Monday is confirmed to be Zaijuan Hester, the other passenger in the vehicle. Hester, 17, of Swissvale, is charged with criminal attempted homicide, aggravated assault, receiving stolen property and firearms violations.
● 8:52 a.m.: Rosfeld is released on $250,000 unsecured bail.
● 11 a.m.: Surveillance footage is released that shows Hester fire multiple shots out of the rear passenger-side window. Rose, who was the front passenger seat, never rolls his window down. ?[Hester] is the shooter in North Braddock. By all accounts, Mr. Rose never did anything in furtherance of any crimes in North Braddock,? District Attorney Stephen Zappala says in a press conference.
● 4 p.m.: Allegheny County Judge Jeffrey Manning changes the conditions of Rosfeld?s bail, reinforcing his bond and placing him under house arrest while he awaits a preliminary hearing, which is set for July 6.
Wed., June 27
● Evening: About 30 protestors gathered outside Rosfeld's home in Penn Hills. They laid cardboard gravestones bearing the names of people killed by area police outside the house. A banner reading "Blue Lives Murder" was also put up.
● 10:45 p.m.: The protestors return to Rosfeld's house, where they chanted "No justice, no peace."
● 11 p.m.: The protestors depart, ending the sixth day of protests.
Thu., June 28
● 3:30 p.m.: Protestors gather outside the East Pittsburgh Police Station and City Hall, demanding that Rosfeld (who was placed on leave) be fired. This is now the seventh day out of nine since Rose's death with at least one protest.
● 5 p.m.: Those protestors headed toward the Tri-Boro Expressway, where they blocked traffic.
● 7 p.m.: While marching down Electric Avenue toward Route 30, those protestors are met by police in riot gear, who block their way. Braddock Mayor John Fetterman tries to mediate, but the protest eventually dissolves peacefully, though the protestors reportedly chant, "We will be back."
Fri., June 29
● 2 p.m.: A man is charged with three counts of recklessly endangering another person for being the alleged driver who drove a black Mercedes-Benz sedan through a crowd of protestors on the North Shore on June 22. Gregory Wagner, 58, of Sewickley, is also charged with two traffic violations (driving the wrong way and careless driving).
Sat., June 30
● As sweltering heat hits Pittsburgh (the high temperature reaches 90 degrees with a 96-degree heat index, according to the National Weather Service), no Rose-related events take place Saturday. An unrelated protest, in which protestors demanded the reunification of immigrant families separated by a now-ended Trump administration policy, occurs Downtown in Mellon Square.
Sun., July 1
● Noon: A group of protestors block an intersection in East Liberty, protesting Rose's death and focusing on the role of the faith community ? representatives from the Presbyterian, Jewish and Muslim communities are present ? in advocating for justice.
● 8:27 p.m.: Police respond to reports of a drive-by shooting on Kirkpatrick Avenue in North Braddock.
● 8:40 p.m.: East Pittsburgh police officer Michael Rosfeld pulls over a car that matches the description of the one involved in the drive-by. 17-year-old Antwon Rose Jr. gets out of the car and runs away from Rosfeld. Rosfeld opens fire, hitting Rose three times. Rose is unarmed at the time of the shooting. There are guns on the floor of the car, and Rose has an empty 9mm ammunition magazine in his pocket.
● 9:07 p.m.: A Facebook user named Shauny Mary posts an 18-second video of the shooting. In it, two people are seen running from a car; a police officer fires three shots at them. ?Why are they shooting?? the woman filming says. ?All they did was run, and they?re shooting at them.?
● 9:19 p.m. Rose is pronounced dead at McKeesport Hospital.
Wed., June 20
● 12:39 a.m.: In response to a viral tweet, which includes Shauny Mary?s video of the shooting, by writer and activist Shaun King, Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto tweets, ?It wasn?t in Pittsburgh. It was in the suburbs of East Pittsburgh. Not part of the city. Not Pittsburgh Police. Not Pittsburgh. Please clarify.?
● 12:51 p.m.: Peduto tweets a press release apologizing for the earlier tweet. The release reads in part: ?While Tuesday's shooting was not within the city's official borders it impacts all of us in the Pittsburgh region, and particularly those in the African American community. In my reactions to the incident I should have acknowledged that these shootings affect all of us, no matter where we live, and for that I am sorry.?
● Evening: Hundreds of protesters slowly gather outside East Pittsburgh Police headquarters, chanting and marching. Chants include a call-and-response in which a protestor with a megaphone shouts ?Say his name!? and the crowd?s response of ?Antwon Rose Jr.!?
Thu., June 21
● Early afternoon: Thousands of protesters gather outside the Allegheny County Courthouse Downtown. Local activist Leon Ford, who was paralyzed after a police shooting in 2012, tells a crowd, ?Antwon didn't die in vain. It is going to be Antwon who is going to help change things.?
● 6 p.m.: Hundreds of protesters gather outside East Pittsburgh Police headquarters for the second straight day.
● 9 p.m.: Those protesters march to the Parkway East, blocking traffic in both directions between the Squirrel Hill Tunnel and the Churchill exit.
Fri., June 22
● 1 a.m.: Police tell protesters on the Parkway East to disperse or be arrested.
● 1:30 a.m.: Police officers in riot gear arrive to disperse the crowd.
● 2 a.m.: Police move in on the remaining protesters to disperse them. One woman is arrested.
● 2:12 p.m.: WPXI reports that a video shows Rose firing a weapon in the North Braddock drive-by. That report is based on anonymous police sources. Allegheny County District Attorney Steven Zappala confirmed that there is video from the North Braddock drive-by, though he refused to go into detail regarding what the video shows.
● 2:51 p.m.: KDKA also reports the existence of video showing Rose firing a gun, additionally reporting that gunshot residue was found on Rose?s hands. Those reports, like WPXI?s, are based on anonymous police sources.
● 3:11 p.m.: Allegheny County Director of Communications Amie Downs releases a statement calling the reports of Rose firing a weapon false.
● 5:30 p.m.: A crowd of about 50 protesters gathers outside the Wood Street T station Downtown, beginning the third straight day of protests.
● 5:51 p.m.: That crowd begins marching down Liberty Avenue toward Market Square.
● 6:12 p.m.: That crowd occupies the intersection of Liberty Avenue and Sixth Street for more than 20 minutes.
● 7:28 p.m.: The Allegheny County Police Department releases a statement from Police Superintendent Coleman McDonough calling both the reports of Rose firing a weapon on video and of Rose having gunshot residue on his hands false. The department confirms the existence of video from the North Braddock drive-by, but states that it does not show Rose firing a weapon.
● 8:47 p.m.: The crowd of protesters Downtown, now in the hundreds, crosses the Roberto Clemente Bridge to the North Shore.
● 9:15 p.m.: The Homestead Grays Bridge is closed between the Waterfront and 8th Avenue exits due to a related but separate protest.
● 9:18 p.m.: A tow truck driver on the North Shore gets out of his truck, sits on the roof and shouts racial obscenities at protesters while giving the finger. He is arrested by police.
● 9:54 p.m.: The protesters on the North Shore gather outside PNC Park, where the Pirates and Diamondbacks are in extra innings.
● 10:30 p.m.: The Homestead Grays Bridge reopens.
● 10:57 p.m.: The Pirates lose to the Diamondbacks, 2-1, in extra innings. An announced crowd of 24,843 emerges from PNC Park to find General Robinson Street blocked by protesters.
● 11:00 p.m.: A black Mercedes-Benz sedan plows through a crowd of protesters at the intersection of Gen. Robinson St and Tony Dorsett Drive.
● 11:09 p.m.: Police in riot gear arrive on the North Shore.
● 11:56 p.m.: The crowd of protesters departs the North Shore and heads back Downtown, crossing the Roberto Clemente Bridge again.
Sat., June 23
● 12:06 a.m.: The protest ends at the intersection of Liberty Avenue and Sixth Street, over six hours after it began. Over the course of the night, four people (including the tow truck driver) are arrested.
● 10 a.m.: A crowd marches from Freedom Corner in the Hill District to Point State Park in a combination of a protest for Rose and a celebration of Juneteenth. U.S. Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Forest Hills), U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Mount Lebanon), State Rep.-elect Summer Lee (D-Swissvale) and State Rep. Ed Gainey (D-East Liberty) all speak in support of Rose at the march. Gainey says, ?There is no justification for shooting someone in the back.?
● 12:29 p.m.: The march ends at Point State Park.
● 8:07 p.m.: A protest begins to form at the intersection of East Carson and 23rd streets in the South Side.
● 9:13 p.m.: About 100 protesters block the intersection of East Carson and South 20th streets.
● 9:22 p.m.: Those protesters, now nearing a group of about 200, begin marching down East Carson Street.
Sun., June 24
● 12:15 a.m.: As the crowd of protesters reaches the intersection of East Carson Street and the Birmingham Bridge, police tell the protesters they have five minutes to disperse. The crowd breaks up, with some protesters heading into nearby bars. No one is arrested.
● 4 p.m.: A visitation for Rose is held at Tunnie Funeral Home in Homestead.
Mon., June 25
● 11 a.m.: Rose?s funeral ? open only to family, friends and former classmates ? is held at Woodland Hills Intermediate School.
● 11:30 p.m.: A juvenile, believed to be the other passenger who ran from the vehicle, is arrested in the Hill District.
Tue., June 26
● 6:56 a.m.: A group of protestors gather at Freedom Corner in the Hill District. This is the fifth day of protests in the seven since Rose?s death.
● 8:01 a.m.: The protestors march Downtown, where they block off the intersection of Grant Street and the Boulevard of the Allies.
● 10:10 a.m.: The protest ends.
● Noon: The Allegheny County Sheriff's Department confirms the arrest of the other passenger of the vehicle Rose was in. Wed., June 27
● 7:32 a.m.: Criminal homicide charges are filed against Rosfeld, who turns himself in to police.
● 8:09 a.m.: The juvenile arrested Monday is confirmed to be Zaijuan Hester, the other passenger in the vehicle. Hester, 17, of Swissvale, is charged with criminal attempted homicide, aggravated assault, receiving stolen property and firearms violations.
● 8:52 a.m.: Rosfeld is released on $250,000 unsecured bail.
● 11 a.m.: Surveillance footage is released that shows Hester fire multiple shots out of the rear passenger-side window. Rose, who was the front passenger seat, never rolls his window down. ?[Hester] is the shooter in North Braddock. By all accounts, Mr. Rose never did anything in furtherance of any crimes in North Braddock,? District Attorney Stephen Zappala says in a press conference.
● 4 p.m.: Allegheny County Judge Jeffrey Manning changes the conditions of Rosfeld?s bail, reinforcing his bond and placing him under house arrest while he awaits a preliminary hearing, which is set for July 6.
Wed., June 27
● Evening: About 30 protestors gathered outside Rosfeld's home in Penn Hills. They laid cardboard gravestones bearing the names of people killed by area police outside the house. A banner reading "Blue Lives Murder" was also put up.
● 10:45 p.m.: The protestors return to Rosfeld's house, where they chanted "No justice, no peace."
● 11 p.m.: The protestors depart, ending the sixth day of protests.
Thu., June 28
● 3:30 p.m.: Protestors gather outside the East Pittsburgh Police Station and City Hall, demanding that Rosfeld (who was placed on leave) be fired. This is now the seventh day out of nine since Rose's death with at least one protest.
● 5 p.m.: Those protestors headed toward the Tri-Boro Expressway, where they blocked traffic.
● 7 p.m.: While marching down Electric Avenue toward Route 30, those protestors are met by police in riot gear, who block their way. Braddock Mayor John Fetterman tries to mediate, but the protest eventually dissolves peacefully, though the protestors reportedly chant, "We will be back."
Fri., June 29
● 2 p.m.: A man is charged with three counts of recklessly endangering another person for being the alleged driver who drove a black Mercedes-Benz sedan through a crowd of protestors on the North Shore on June 22. Gregory Wagner, 58, of Sewickley, is also charged with two traffic violations (driving the wrong way and careless driving).
Sat., June 30
● As sweltering heat hits Pittsburgh (the high temperature reaches 90 degrees with a 96-degree heat index, according to the National Weather Service), no Rose-related events take place Saturday. An unrelated protest, in which protestors demanded the reunification of immigrant families separated by a now-ended Trump administration policy, occurs Downtown in Mellon Square.
Sun., July 1
● Noon: A group of protestors block an intersection in East Liberty, protesting Rose's death and focusing on the role of the faith community ? representatives from the Presbyterian, Jewish and Muslim communities are present ? in advocating for justice.
Pittsburgh DA Zappala discusses charges against cop Rosfeld ~
Pittsburgh DA Zappala discusses charges against cop Rosfeld ~
https://liber.post-gazette.com/news...d-press-conference/stories/201806270138.print
Pittsburgh DA Zappala discusses charges against cop Rosfeld ~
https://liber.post-gazette.com/news...d-press-conference/stories/201806270138.print
That's a somewhat different account. If the kid pretended to have a gun which he pointed at the officer, and if a reasonable person would have believed the kid was pointing a gun, then okay, shoot his ass.
The other account stated that the kid showed to officer that his hands were empty. Maybe the officer was wearing a video cam, which will settle the question. Maybe there are credible witnesses.
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these guys have a tough job ...let's all agree about that...
but those in charge of these new recruits have to think twice before sending them out on night duty there first week on the job..
the job is tricky enough in the daytime don't send these guys and girls into the frying pan without real experience in broad daylight with at least months of work in the community.
but those in charge of these new recruits have to think twice before sending them out on night duty there first week on the job..
the job is tricky enough in the daytime don't send these guys and girls into the frying pan without real experience in broad daylight with at least months of work in the community.
If the officer was wearing a camera they haven't shared the video. Keep in mind what Buddy posted was the actual findings, the information the officer was (apparently) working with was different at the time.
In case my stance hasn't been made clear, I dislike police officers. I do not trust police officers, I am 100% certain they lie to protect their own ass and/or to make a case and do not care who they hurt in the process. Yes, I have experience in the issue and prefer not to go into detail. They lie, right to your face, they cannot be trusted.
I believe nearly all of them are high school bullies who just can't see themselves living without power over someone even though it is undeserved and abused. Again, I dislike police officers as a whole.
I also understand they are put in very difficult situations where they have little time to make life and death decisions concerning either their own life or someone else's, I do not envy that position. I have just as much disdain for trouble makers like this kid was, whether he was driving or not, he was involved in the drive by shooting of an unarmed person, coward.
I do not believe he should have been shot if he were unarmed and posing no threat to anyone. The officer does not get to be judge, jury and executioner (literally), his job is to arrest and detain until an actual judge and jury can decide the facts.
I'm not rooting for either side to "win", I just hope, somehow, the facts are made clear.
Jury selected: 6 men, 6 women ~
Jury selected: 6 men, 6 women ~
https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/jury-selected-in-michael-rosfeld-trial/
Jury selected: 6 men, 6 women ~
https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/jury-selected-in-michael-rosfeld-trial/
I don't think everyone would agree.
Cops are well aware of the risk before
they EVEN THINK of entering the field.
Once they do, the gun and the badge gives them authority and power they
never dreamed possible.
Authority, power, influence, judicial support simply based on your word alone, excellent salary, complete medical and dental for you and your family, job security, every perk imagineable vs risk You decide.
Not to mention, they have every possible resource and
support system at their disposal.
Hardly ever is a cop confronted with a split-second, life or death decision.
Most times, other options would have been much safer for everyone and far less dramatic.
But cops can, will and do fabricate a story to make it appear life-threatening.
But rarely is that the case.
My relative (retired) was a police chief in a major Pittsburgh suburb.
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yeah every traffic stop someone might be that idiot who blows your head off..
be aware all you want....TUFF ASS JOB....
You mean like Rodney King?
Or the thousands of others like him?
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Okay, got it.
I'm sorry you have a permanent hard-on for police officers. Sure, some of them are assholes, but so are some physicians, bankers, fry cooks, airplane pilots..
The police officers I have known, and that includes sheriffs, FBI agents and MPs, have mostly been good guys. I've never been hassled by any of them. In fact a sheriff once told me he had a warrant for my arrest (issued by a first-class-prick asst AG), that he was going to look for me elsewhere for a half hour, and if I were still there, then he'd have to find and arrest me. He later had to report that he could not find me.
Of course I'm white, educated, clean shaven, and have no reason to fear law enforcement. nor any reason to give a LEO a ration of shit. If I were a black dude with an attitude and a shiv in my shoe, yeah, some cop might blow me away for eating a chili-cheese dawg.
Life ain't fair.
I'm hearing a verdict has been reached. Police are told to be on 12 hour shifts and descending on town now preparing for protests/riots.
This tells me it's a not guilty verdict.
This tells me it's a not guilty verdict.
