playing spring traing games? then your a fool

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For those of you who are tossing money out would like to know how much you really know about spring training. I know a lot.

what is the un written rule of play for spring training for players on team that starts the game?

how do you know who is playing ? you don't trust me you might listen to radio shows and read papers but the line ups are mixed changed and never know who is in till last 4-5 games,then you will see some players playing that should be all at 1 time.

how much work or ab's does a player on 40 man and non r invites have to get or pitches have to be throwen buy a pitcher before players are tagged.

if a player has even a treak in a muscle you will not see them, thats why spring training sites have 5-7 fields.

How many of you have been to at least a full week of spring training to watch not just games but practice? then you will know what i mean.

you might stand a chance by playing every dog and grind out a little money or take teams that are trying to in still wining into the minds of their club but spring training is the most un capable pro sport there is so save your money you might get lucky but that is what it is luck of the draw. there is nothing set till maybe last 5 games you might say you have pitching rotation but i promiose you it will not be the same as what you have there are always changes. teams know who is going to be where for the most part so they are looking at the other players to see where they fit into system aaa and aa and what few spots might be filled by non r invites.

spring traing is about the same as trying to win at viedo poker or slots trust me on this. like i said you might win but it has nothing to do with skills or team info till last 1.5 weeks.

go ahead and waste money but when you get into the 6-9th innings you will see guys that you never even heard of and also get to see what it means to leave a young arm out to dry.

save your money or if you can't do that bet dogs that want to win and get in winning habit but still is not a handicapping sport and i think i have a good grasp on spring training . good luck if you must but just plain flat out gambling because to many changes that can effect out come till last 1.5 weeks. even first few weeks of reg season it's a crap shoot. every one is on a pitch count for at least 2 times to the bump.

just trying to save you some money or give you a hint on a chance at winning slim as it is, spring training is luck clubs could give a shit if they win or not its about getting good solid work in , which does not mean a win or a hitter getting a hit or pitcher not giving up runs it's about getting the work in that the club wants to see and doing a good job at it. A pitcher might be working on a new pitch per coach and team or different release point and things so you could see a pitcher give up 5-6 runs and think it was a bad outting and the coaching staff will think it was good because they are working on things runs and hits mean nothing in spring training. fl is less scoring then az is it because pitchers are better no its because of the elev and humidity and the way the ball carries.

in short save you money or at least don't risk more then what a half of days pay is for you on all games total or you will be bitching.

good luck but don't try to tell me there is a skill i have been there i know there is not.
 

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was not picking at anyone just trying to let you know it is about quailty of work in spring training not wins. So just don't think you should put any type of major money on a game where out come is not about winning that's all. I hope you do win but don't be fooled by what you might read in paper about who will play that day because they might be playing might not and then how long? its just a time to get good quailty work in and that might lead to some things you look at as poor but the staff is happy because player is making change they are working on. I hope you all win but don't put lots of weight in what you see in print from some writer or something. If you want to have fun fine but would not try to buy a house by the end of spring training with the winnings:D
 

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I totally agree with you fletcher. Im just having fun, not betting over a unit. I know you werent picking on anybody. your a great handicapper so your advice was actually good. i keep looking at other plays and stuff, but your right its easier to wait for the regular season. i just like to take some games here and there when im not doing anything. Thanks Fletch and good luck to ya this season.


:) :cool: :)
 

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I only bet a minimal price on spring training games as it helps motivate me to study a team in the spring training to help me with the regular season and for the most part agree with you...

however you may want to try and sound less degrading ...just a thought...

I respect your opinion and always will, especially in baseball, and wish you the best of luck in the upcoming season...


s c OO p
 

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scoop i am one of the worst writers there are,that's why i came right back on and said don't take it the wrong way. Hell that is more writing in 1 post then you will see out of me in a month. i just don't want to see guys go over board on spring training bets, or at least let them know what to try to look for in the + dogs.

was not ment as put down just my poor writing ability.

good luck

Eric
 

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Thanks Fletch

Thanks Fletch

Class act as always and I appreciate the explanation :D

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Wrong

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Fletcher - Actually you are wrong. Spring training is one time of the year where you can get an information edge. I have always done well during spring training. It is a lot like preseason football in that information is out there on starters playing or not playing, rotations, etc. The lines do not reflect any of this in spring training. It is not important enough for books to worry about and linemakers don't know which starters did not make the trip or who is pitching. Spring training is an opportunity if you have the right information.

While I always like to read opinions, on this particular one, it does not hold true.

Tom
 

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Cont.

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Fletcher

I should add - I agree your attitude is poor. Who proclaimed you the expert here? I will take my knowledge of spring training against anyone out there. And there is value in playing games where you find an edge. It is a hell of a lot better than playing regular season games where lines are sharp and value is gone. I know it is quite true that at the end of games you get a lot of minor leaguers - but that is true for both sides. If I get a lineup edge for 5 or 6 innings and a pitching edge for the same amount I like the play. And I have an advantage in that I know this and the linemaker does not. That is an advantage - period. It may not always win but I like my chances.

While your opinions on other matters are always worth looking at I would respectfully suggest you keep quiet on this one.

Tom
 

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I agree here with the guys Fletch im kinda new to this site and rarely do i post much of an opinion usually just my plays and then quietly go about my business. After reading your write-up i can see no way to take it other than offensive and i know im not much of an on paper guy either so i can understand what your saying as to its meaning. As great of a handicapper as you are its just not in good spirits to degrade anyone else's capping skills especially on something as far as info and how much of whatever sport they have seen. I for one have seen tons of spring training games and i will admit i dont bet tons on em but it is fun to dabble a little in getting ready for the season. Also think that wagering a little in the spring gets me more into the action and talent of certain squads which usually leads to making more money in the regular season so for me it does have its advantages in the long run and if i win or lose a little coin along the spring training train then its acceptable and not a "Dumb" move by a pathetic capper :D , although sometimes i would have to agree with that. Just throwing in my 2 cents along the way man , im just ready for some baseball and a good Braves season :D , had to throw that in there. So Guys Good Luck this season as always and keep the plays coming ! ! !
 

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Tom how many years of spring training did you go through and with who? hope you win but i am talking from being on the field i know i am right about what i said. good luck. spring training is used to get work in and fix problems such as a hitch or a bad arm slot, that is the things i was trying to explain. not going to fight with someone over what i was trying to explain good luck and hope you hit them all.

Eric
 
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also tom i think i stated right after i posted that this was not towards anyone or a put down just how i write and really do hope you win them all but i am looking at something different then you are and a different way but i think i know how spring training works so to say i don't have a clue you are wrong but not going to get into it i know you saw i said it was not pointed at anyone . But good luck and win them all and i mean that.

Eric
 

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I don't agree with the sex ape here. Tom is right, spring training is easy to beat if you know what to look for. And the prices are usually a lot better. It's like picking cherries from a tree. Just because you aren't any good at it doesn't mean that others can't win. :nono:
 
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