poker bonus question

[wareagle]

I dont think this is a sponsor so i will leave the name off...i have seen a ton of bonus being offered, but not one of this magnitude

1,000% up to $10,000 ($1,000 deposit required for max bonus)
Neteller must be used to deposit
365 days to clear
Bonus clears in increments of $50.
15x for $9,000 of the bonus, with the last $1,000 coming as a 0x bonus. (Making the whole bonus a 13.5x bonus.)
The Deposit Bonus has no current expiration date.


will somebody please help me understand this...if i deposited 1k...i would need to play a total of 135,000$ worth of raked hands to clear the 9k bonus? :sadwave:

 

[Penguinfan]

I believe it is 15x raked hands, not dollars raked. So you would need to play 135000 raked hands to clear the bonus.

Good luck with that one

 

[wareagle]

I believe it is 15x raked hands, not dollars raked. So you would need to play 135000 raked hands to clear the bonus.

Good luck with that one

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

why would they even offer a bonus like that???

that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard...you might clear that bonus by age 80

 

[HoopsGuru]

the funny thing is that there aren't many players on that site if its the one i think it is. 2 words, begins with g? 135,000 raked hands is a pretty big number of hands.

 

[wareagle]

the funny thing is that there aren't many players on that site if its the one i think it is. 2 words, begins with g? 135,000 raked hands is a pretty big number of hands.

lol i played the shit out of some poker last month and i only played like 3000 raked hands :mj07:

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

why would they even offer a bonus like that???

that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard...you might clear that bonus by age 80

I play minimum of 40k hands a month. Doesn't seem that hard. You just have to multitable.

 

[HoopsGuru]

but bdb you play poker for a career right? seems like if you're not playing 25+ hours a week it would take a long time to utilize all of the bonus. i've been on that site and it doesn't generate much traffic. i think i saw 3 tables at like 8pm one night of 1-2 nl.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

yes, but its really not that hard if the site has any kind of traffic. i don't know what site he's talking about. if it has no traffic, forget it.

but if you can 4-table 2.5 hours a day thats about 1000 hands give or take. more if playing 6 max tables. 30 days in a month gives you 30k

again, i don't know the site and without games or traffic its impossible. just saying that it sounds like a lot of hands if there are games, but its doable.

gl

 

[Penguinfan]

As far as BDB playing for a living, you have my utmost respect for that! I just don't see how anyone does it, not on the internet.

I know there are winning players, and believe me I play alot and confess to be a small loser overall, but not for lack of effort.

It just seems like it's all about the bad beats, period. Scotty Nyguen said "you can out-flop me, but you can't out-play me". Boy do I believe that.

You keep hearing people say that the fish who call with impossible draws will pay you off eventually and it'a all about the long run. Problem is I think in internet poker there is no long run, just a series of short runs.

Good example is earlier today I was playing some $100 buy in Pot Limit Omaha Hi/lo, flopped and Ace hi flush, which in Omaha is by no means unbeatable.
Board of 79K all diamonds, no reasonable low draw at this point so I bet half the pot looking for action but not wanting to commit in case the board pairs or the low falls as I hate splitting a big pot just to pay the rake. Anyway Qs on the turn and I am gonna scoop so I bet the pot and get raised the pot, I raise back and eventually get pushed all-in for a total of the $110 in front of me, what the hell could he have? I am holding the nuts, he has to have a King hi flush and is gonna pay me off. 8d on the river does not pair the board so I am gold, UNTIL the cards get turned over and I see 5-6 of diamonds for a straight flush.

Thats right, he either thought his 6 high flush was good or was willing to risk his entire stack on an inside str8 fulsh draw.

I understand 38 of 39 times in that spot he pays me off, but I found the one time and spent $110 to see it.

I just don't know how you guys do it.

 

[Agent 0659]

You keep hearing people say that the fish who call with impossible draws will pay you off eventually and it'a all about the long run. Problem is I think in internet poker there is no long run, just a series of short runs.
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This will be very long winded, but I know that those it is intended for will bother to read it. I have concluded there is no "long run" or "short run" in NO LIMIT poker. There is only THIS hand. None of these "theories" apply to limit as it is a totally different game. Here is an example of what Im talking about. Last week Im in a 1-2 no limit game max 300 buy in. A crazy young kid is in the game and has turned his stack from 300 into about 1250 in less than an hour. I have right around 350 in front of me still and EVERY time I come into the pot he raises or reraises me. I avoid confrontation since I know he is rushing and has me severely short stacked, for now. I wont take his shit forever though and when I get a hand Im going with it. So I get Q-10 clubs in late position and raise it to 22, he of course comes over the top and makes it 70. I call as fast as I can trying to represent a pair and hoping to avoid an ace hitting so I can bet. I already KNOW he has some bull shit ace high hand and if no ace hits Im all in. Well an ace hit but it was A-K-J with two clubs!!! Talk about a dream flop. I can only hope he has 2 pair. Well I lead out for a hundred and he quickly goes all in. Cards are turned up and he has A9 offsuit :mj07:

 

[Agent 0659]

Well you can only guess, the turn is a K and the river is an ace to fill him up. :cursin: :cursin: Now put this in the poker calculator and Im a 98% vs 2% favorite :scared After the turn Im still 94 to 6. But the fact of the matter is the jack off sucked out and won a $730 pot off of me. Now explain to me where the "long run" is in this scenario? How am I going to find another jack off to put in all his money in that spot. I may never experience this situation again in my life. The only Odds that matter are what cards are on top of that deck. Not the 60-40, 75-25, blah blah shit you see on the WPT. Its situation after situation that are all individual of each other regardless of the odds. Its about what amount you can extrac when you have it, and save when you dont. Thats what makes the difference. Now this fish blows all my money and his to some other guy at the table who quickly cashes out. So again where is the long run because the money is gone. Where does the short run stop and the long run begin? It doesnt exist, its one hand at a time and all we can do is try to get the best of it and hope it holds up.

 

[saint]

In an hour and a half tonight i lost 9 times, yes 9 times, on rivers when i was ahead the entire hand.

Supposedly it's supposed to "even out" over time. Not for me at least.

 

[saint]

I should have gotten out since my last post. Nothing like KK in the hole, flop comes 582 rainbow, pretty much bust my stack on it, there's one caller, turn is J, river is 5. You guessed it...he's holding Q5. Someone please tell me how the fuvk he calls my stack with a god damn Q5? Blah blah "that's online poker" i just don't buy it. Not when it's this one sided.

 

[saint]

Two hands later, in BB with KQs flop a set of Qs, and lose to..you guessed it, lose to someone holding AQ.

Sweet :banghead:

 

[Agent 0659]

Not only is that online poker, thats Texas Holdem in general. Its a bad beat retarded game.I can teach a monkey how to play holdem at pro level in a day. Games like stud and even omaha arent nearly as bad.

 

[Agent 0659]

If you want to make money playing holdem, go find the hardest game in town. I mean the one where all the good players are. Sit down and do exactly opposite of what they do. If its tight play loose, if its loose play tight. Do things that make absolutely no sense. Reraise with 4-8 offsuit, they will never be able to put you on a hand and you will own them. I cant believe Im giving up my secrets, lol.

 

[Phenom]

Just to add fuel to the fire, I have played at several sites, I start off very good, making a lot of extra cash, and then a few weeks or months into it I start losing horribly on very bad beats, I mean all in pre-flop AA vs. 38 off and lose... More of the same, so then I cash out and move along to the next site. Almost the same scenerio, I win for awhile and lose consectuively on terrrible beat after terrible beat.

So I think its just me until I talk with a few friends that play a considerable amount of poker online, not for a living, but 5-6 hours a day, and the same thing happens to them. Not believing them I signed up for another account at a new site a few months ago, low and behold I get second in a big tourney and make a lot of dough, since then I have been losing steadily on some shite, I think its going to end, but it doesn't...

Has anyone else had this same problem? It feels like a trap to me, so I duck and run to about six different sites now....

 

[saint]

Just to add fuel to the fire, I have played at several sites, I start off very good, making a lot of extra cash, and then a few weeks or months into it I start losing horribly on very bad beats, I mean all in pre-flop AA vs. 38 off and lose... More of the same, so then I cash out and move along to the next site. Almost the same scenerio, I win for awhile and lose consectuively on terrrible beat after terrible beat.

So I think its just me until I talk with a few friends that play a considerable amount of poker online, not for a living, but 5-6 hours a day, and the same thing happens to them. Not believing them I signed up for another account at a new site a few months ago, low and behold I get second in a big tourney and make a lot of dough, since then I have been losing steadily on some shite, I think its going to end, but it doesn't...

Has anyone else had this same problem? It feels like a trap to me, so I duck and run to about six different sites now....

Same exact thing has happened to me. Recent example...i reloaded at empire recently since they had a nice reload bonus. I'm playing the same tables i absolutely killed the first time around. This time I have not had more terrible beat on rivers out of nowhere in my life. It makes me wonder sometimes if the player im losing to on the other end isn't an employee or computer. There's no way it can go like that. I'm not whining I've had bad runs of cards before but this is unbelievable. I should get up and leave but i almost want to see how i'll lose next. I've moved on with other sites and had the same thing happen. Start off absolutely on fire (almost too good) and then ridiculous beats. Like you said, i know there's ups and downs in cards but it's happened to several of my friends as well.

 

[JOSHNAUDI]

good beat
nl mtt pays 27 players about 40 left in the bb with slick semi-short-stacked
folds to sb who bumps 1x
I come over the top with all my chips and get a quick call
showdown equals AKvAA
Flop AQQ
Turn Q
River Q
Chopped pot Quad Q's A kicker
I apologized all the way to 2nd place in this toruney

Bad beat
Limit Mtt pays 9 players 10 left ~5k in chips blinds 1600/3200
on the button with JJ folds to me and I bump
sb folds bb reraises and i go ahead and put the rest of my chips in
hoping for a coin flip and semi expecting a suited ace I am pleased to see the bb turn over 47off
showdown equals JJv47
Flop 278 rainbow
Turn 5
River 6
I go out 10th (which paid the same as 89th) to the middled runner runner str8

I've benefited and lost on some crazy beats, but the bad beats we tend to remember are the ones when we have all our chips in the middle.

I've restarted this sentence twelve times as the words are failing me this morning, but the jist I'm trying to convey is that we need to evaluate the times we get all of our money in the middle.

I also think that we tend to be a little selfish when we believe that a poker site programmed their software just to beat us.

I'll re-read after I have a pot of coffee to see if any of this makes sense.

Happy Poking