I see latest is 36% for one poll and the other one mention above is 40%. For a lame duck I'm not sure if there both no to far off. The one that surprises me is Cheney down to 19%. I know the moderate Reb's do not like him. But boy that number does add fuel to he walks after 06 election, and Rice get's moved up. I mean Dick has become big drain on Bush. Another poll just out 70% of American's think this port deal should be stopped. It goes thru and I believe Bush will push it. You may see his numbers down in low 30's.
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I think Real ClearPolitics which does average and was at 40% which is neither here nor there--point is his ratings are all time low regardless of which poiltical side you poll.
Point is what real poll "election" would show if people were given alternative.If you can put any confidence in polls which I don't the one on Hiliary would be scary for Dems with 51% polled said they would not vote for her under any circumstance--if true--which I doubt--she would be looking at most lopsided loss in history.Another obscenely low # was people having confidence in congress which was 29% I believe. Maybe we could conclude most are not happy with anything
Point is what real poll "election" would show if people were given alternative.If you can put any confidence in polls which I don't the one on Hiliary would be scary for Dems with 51% polled said they would not vote for her under any circumstance--if true--which I doubt--she would be looking at most lopsided loss in history.Another obscenely low # was people having confidence in congress which was 29% I believe. Maybe we could conclude most are not happy with anything
DTB you are correct about congress. And last time they had those numbers in 94. The public cleaned house. One of biggest turnovers ever. It was Dems that time. This time it could be the Reb's turn. It just seems to cycle like that some times.
Since people in here like Stevie Sheehan like quoting Hillary Clinton so much......
"Saddam Hussein has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton Oct 10, 2002
Enjoy!!
"Saddam Hussein has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton Oct 10, 2002
Enjoy!!
So Hillary said Saddam was harboring Al Queda? and trying to develope nukes?
And she sayd Bush is a liar? What a hypocrite. Please Please Please I hope she runs for president in 2008!! The libs will be DOOMED once again!
And she sayd Bush is a liar? What a hypocrite. Please Please Please I hope she runs for president in 2008!! The libs will be DOOMED once again!
It's About Bush, Stupid
The latest strategy memo from James Carville and Stan Greenberg is almost giddy at the fact that Republican voters are starting to turn away from their own party in advance of the midterm elections.
"The starting point is George Bush, who every day is nationalizing this election on our terms. Other polls show breathtaking drops on job approval, but even more so for specific areas, like the war on terrorism and Iraq. He was already low on the economy. In this survey, he hits historic lows on the country?s direction and specifically, on changing Bush?s direction. With his personal approval hitting new lows here, we very much want 2006 to be about Bush?s stewardship for the country."
Key point from the survey: "The disillusionment now has swept into the Republican loyalist world. Overall, we have seen a dramatic drop in the number of voters who 'strongly approve' of Bush?s handling of the job. That fell 8 points this month to only 22 percent. The drop in enthusiasm was led by his base."
Let's Go to the Videotape
When President Bush learned they videotaped his briefing the day before Hurricane Katrina hit, do you think he felt the same way President Clinton felt when he learned Monica Lewinsky never cleaned her blue dress?
The AP and Newsweek have the whole story. Crooks and Liars has the video.
When the World Isn't Black and White
Howard Fineman sums up President Bush's achilles heal: "So after years of saying how fundamentally simple and stark things were -- Good Guys and Bad Guys, Good and Evil, freedom and slavery, light and darkness -- the president has suddenly had to concede, or propose, that the Dubai port deal is all about the complexities of the real world, of globalized commerce, of leases and not ownership, of friendly Middle Easterners versus enemy Middle Easterners, of friends who recognize Israel, and friends who don't -- and won't, perhaps ever.
"The Administration will take 45 days to try to describe why the Dubai deal is a good thing for the country. But it'll take an army of explainers to do the trick -- and you won't hear the president do it in a prime-time speech.
"Suddenly, it's a complicated, gray world out there: the kind that a Bill Clinton would feel at home in, and could explain."
Bonus Quote of the Day
"OK, big boy, I'll just vote to override your veto."
--Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS), quoted by the Washington Times, in reaction to Bush?s veto threat over legislation that would block the transfer of port operations to a United Arab Emirates company.
Presidential Visits to India: Then and Now
President Clinton?s visit to India In March 2000:
?The president was sick of not interacting with people,? said White House spokesman Jake Siewert.
It started in the village of Nayla, where Clinton allowed a swarm of colorfully dressed women to shower him with flower petals as they danced and chanted all around him. He did a sort of hopping dance in response, and the funny, happy scene aired on televisions throughout the world. Today in Hyderabad, Clinton spoke to high-tech industry executives and then plunged into the crowd to shake hands as if it were an election-eve rally. ? Tonight, at a meeting of business executives in Bombay, the president spoke fondly of the Nayla scene, when flower petals rained on him. ?I?m known now for not dancing very well,? he said. [Washington Post, 3/25/00]
President Bush?s visit to India today:
Tens of thousands of Indians waving black and white flags and chanting ?Death to Bush!? rallied Wednesday in New Delhi to protest a visit by President Bush. ? ?Whether Hindu or Muslim, the people of India have gathered here to show our anger. We have only one message ? killer Bush go home,? one of the speakers, Hindu politician Raj Babbar, told the crowd
The AP adds some more historical detail to the decline in the international respect for the American president. ?The mood in New Delhi was much changed from 1959 when President Eisenhower became the first U.S. president to visit the nation. Then, an estimated 1 million joyous Indians threw rose petals at Eisenhower as he rode in an open limousine along a route where a sign heralded him as ?Prince of Peace.?? One thing is certain ? Indians no longer see the U.S. President as a ?Prince of Peace.?
The latest strategy memo from James Carville and Stan Greenberg is almost giddy at the fact that Republican voters are starting to turn away from their own party in advance of the midterm elections.
"The starting point is George Bush, who every day is nationalizing this election on our terms. Other polls show breathtaking drops on job approval, but even more so for specific areas, like the war on terrorism and Iraq. He was already low on the economy. In this survey, he hits historic lows on the country?s direction and specifically, on changing Bush?s direction. With his personal approval hitting new lows here, we very much want 2006 to be about Bush?s stewardship for the country."
Key point from the survey: "The disillusionment now has swept into the Republican loyalist world. Overall, we have seen a dramatic drop in the number of voters who 'strongly approve' of Bush?s handling of the job. That fell 8 points this month to only 22 percent. The drop in enthusiasm was led by his base."
Let's Go to the Videotape
When President Bush learned they videotaped his briefing the day before Hurricane Katrina hit, do you think he felt the same way President Clinton felt when he learned Monica Lewinsky never cleaned her blue dress?
The AP and Newsweek have the whole story. Crooks and Liars has the video.
When the World Isn't Black and White
Howard Fineman sums up President Bush's achilles heal: "So after years of saying how fundamentally simple and stark things were -- Good Guys and Bad Guys, Good and Evil, freedom and slavery, light and darkness -- the president has suddenly had to concede, or propose, that the Dubai port deal is all about the complexities of the real world, of globalized commerce, of leases and not ownership, of friendly Middle Easterners versus enemy Middle Easterners, of friends who recognize Israel, and friends who don't -- and won't, perhaps ever.
"The Administration will take 45 days to try to describe why the Dubai deal is a good thing for the country. But it'll take an army of explainers to do the trick -- and you won't hear the president do it in a prime-time speech.
"Suddenly, it's a complicated, gray world out there: the kind that a Bill Clinton would feel at home in, and could explain."
Bonus Quote of the Day
"OK, big boy, I'll just vote to override your veto."
--Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS), quoted by the Washington Times, in reaction to Bush?s veto threat over legislation that would block the transfer of port operations to a United Arab Emirates company.
Presidential Visits to India: Then and Now
President Clinton?s visit to India In March 2000:
?The president was sick of not interacting with people,? said White House spokesman Jake Siewert.
It started in the village of Nayla, where Clinton allowed a swarm of colorfully dressed women to shower him with flower petals as they danced and chanted all around him. He did a sort of hopping dance in response, and the funny, happy scene aired on televisions throughout the world. Today in Hyderabad, Clinton spoke to high-tech industry executives and then plunged into the crowd to shake hands as if it were an election-eve rally. ? Tonight, at a meeting of business executives in Bombay, the president spoke fondly of the Nayla scene, when flower petals rained on him. ?I?m known now for not dancing very well,? he said. [Washington Post, 3/25/00]
President Bush?s visit to India today:
Tens of thousands of Indians waving black and white flags and chanting ?Death to Bush!? rallied Wednesday in New Delhi to protest a visit by President Bush. ? ?Whether Hindu or Muslim, the people of India have gathered here to show our anger. We have only one message ? killer Bush go home,? one of the speakers, Hindu politician Raj Babbar, told the crowd
The AP adds some more historical detail to the decline in the international respect for the American president. ?The mood in New Delhi was much changed from 1959 when President Eisenhower became the first U.S. president to visit the nation. Then, an estimated 1 million joyous Indians threw rose petals at Eisenhower as he rode in an open limousine along a route where a sign heralded him as ?Prince of Peace.?? One thing is certain ? Indians no longer see the U.S. President as a ?Prince of Peace.?
---and which way does the wind blow today
For It or Against It?
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
Bill Clinton has jumped to the defense of the United Arab Emirates in the deal to hand over control of some U.S. port operations ? or has he? Clinton tells the National Governor's Association that he has "a very high opinion of UAE and Dubai in particular,? calling the country, "a good ally to America" and saying "They're trying to build a new Middle East."
But the New York Post reports that Clinton also supports his wife Hillary's opposition to the deal and says, "I do not buy this argument that all the people who are questioning this are xenophobic."
For It or Against It?
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
Bill Clinton has jumped to the defense of the United Arab Emirates in the deal to hand over control of some U.S. port operations ? or has he? Clinton tells the National Governor's Association that he has "a very high opinion of UAE and Dubai in particular,? calling the country, "a good ally to America" and saying "They're trying to build a new Middle East."
But the New York Post reports that Clinton also supports his wife Hillary's opposition to the deal and says, "I do not buy this argument that all the people who are questioning this are xenophobic."
That is true. And Clinton also advise follow the 45 day rule. And he advised that before deal was being made. At least he had it right.
Howeve with that said. I still don't think Bush 41 Clinton and Bush 43 should back this deal period.
Howeve with that said. I still don't think Bush 41 Clinton and Bush 43 should back this deal period.
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Wayne,
Bubba is definitely on the wrong side of this issue. What's funny is that while I haven't seen you take much, if any, of a stand on this issue against Bush, you know, the actual President, you somehow manage to get your shot in on Bill.
Bubba is definitely on the wrong side of this issue. What's funny is that while I haven't seen you take much, if any, of a stand on this issue against Bush, you know, the actual President, you somehow manage to get your shot in on Bill.
Haven't really taken a firm stance one way or another Matt.
Its no win situation--I don't trust ANY Muslims ties to U.S.--but hard to piss off a key player and ally on war on terror.
I would hate to have to be one that makes decision.
Was impressed with UEA trying to take heat off GW in 45 day approach--evidently he and they have pretty good relationship--I would think GW probaly has given them some unpublished promises and if so,believe he is doing correct thing in keeping their trust--just don't like the price we have to pay.
Its no win situation--I don't trust ANY Muslims ties to U.S.--but hard to piss off a key player and ally on war on terror.
I would hate to have to be one that makes decision.
Was impressed with UEA trying to take heat off GW in 45 day approach--evidently he and they have pretty good relationship--I would think GW probaly has given them some unpublished promises and if so,believe he is doing correct thing in keeping their trust--just don't like the price we have to pay.
.--but hard to piss off a key player and ally on war on terror.
Your kidding this country had direct links to th Taliban even going so far as recognizing them as leaders of Afghan. UAE and Saudi Arabia are two of the most corrupt govt's in the world not to mention they both usually are recognized for their brutality that they committ on their own people. More terrorist funds have come from these two countries then any other countries in the world so to blindly truest GW on this one is asking way too much, besides Americans should be in charge of guarding our own ports
Your kidding this country had direct links to th Taliban even going so far as recognizing them as leaders of Afghan. UAE and Saudi Arabia are two of the most corrupt govt's in the world not to mention they both usually are recognized for their brutality that they committ on their own people. More terrorist funds have come from these two countries then any other countries in the world so to blindly truest GW on this one is asking way too much, besides Americans should be in charge of guarding our own ports
they are not a key ally on the war on terror BUT they are a key ally in the oil industry
that being said, we should run ALL of our own ports
I am sick of the country being sold out whether it be a Bush or a Clinton they both have sold us down the toilet.
that being said, we should run ALL of our own ports
I am sick of the country being sold out whether it be a Bush or a Clinton they both have sold us down the toilet.
DOGS THAT BARK said:
Wayne,
I'm surprised with the amount of news reports that you look at every day, you hadn't come across the fact that it is US law that anything decided by this Co-agency 'panel' have a 45 day delay if such decisions have anything to do with Homeland Security.
IOW, it was not the altruism of the UAE that 'allowed' this 'delay', it was US law.
It's no coincidence that the UAE 'gave' us exactly 45 days.
Look it up.
As far as how we don't want to 'piss off' Dubai. Listen to yourself.
To be exact Matt tthe port thing was done deal back in November and all the just hoopla surfaced.
--and in addition to UAE I would also prefer to keep Saudi-Kuwaitt-Pakistan-Jordan--and others that support war on terroras allies.
As a matter of fact they have given MUCH more support on war than liberals/media here and I believe everyone of them has done more in fight against terrorism than "our last admin" did?--am I correct ?--I could be persuaded to change my mind if someone could submits facts to the contrary.
and more food for thought from Britt---
Briefing Open to the Press
Thursday, March 02, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
The AP is calling that tape from a White House briefing on Hurricane Katrina, which caused such a stir when it was released yesterday, "confidential video footage." In fact, most of the August 28 briefing was open to the press and was covered by numerous media outlets including FOX News.
What's more, the entire transcript from the briefing was made available to Congress and to the public last fall.
Bill's Buddies
The chief operating officer of Dubai Ports World says Bill Clinton called a member of the Dubai royal family to convince the emirate to hire his former press secretary Joe Lockhart as its Washington spokesman to help push through the port deal. Ted Bilkey told the House committee investigating the deal that the recommendation was passed down to DP World from the government, but was ultimately rejected.
A Clinton spokesman denied that the former president tried to steer the UAE toward hiring Lockhart, and said he supported his wife Hillary's legislation expressing concern about foreign state management of port operations.
Clinton has a long history with Dubai and he received $300,000 to give a speech there in 2002.
--and in addition to UAE I would also prefer to keep Saudi-Kuwaitt-Pakistan-Jordan--and others that support war on terroras allies.
As a matter of fact they have given MUCH more support on war than liberals/media here and I believe everyone of them has done more in fight against terrorism than "our last admin" did?--am I correct ?--I could be persuaded to change my mind if someone could submits facts to the contrary.
and more food for thought from Britt---
Briefing Open to the Press
Thursday, March 02, 2006
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
The AP is calling that tape from a White House briefing on Hurricane Katrina, which caused such a stir when it was released yesterday, "confidential video footage." In fact, most of the August 28 briefing was open to the press and was covered by numerous media outlets including FOX News.
What's more, the entire transcript from the briefing was made available to Congress and to the public last fall.
Bill's Buddies
The chief operating officer of Dubai Ports World says Bill Clinton called a member of the Dubai royal family to convince the emirate to hire his former press secretary Joe Lockhart as its Washington spokesman to help push through the port deal. Ted Bilkey told the House committee investigating the deal that the recommendation was passed down to DP World from the government, but was ultimately rejected.
A Clinton spokesman denied that the former president tried to steer the UAE toward hiring Lockhart, and said he supported his wife Hillary's legislation expressing concern about foreign state management of port operations.
Clinton has a long history with Dubai and he received $300,000 to give a speech there in 2002.
How about some balance ? How much did Bush 41 get from the UAE and other Countries in the region ?
How much is 43 owed when he graduates, from our friends and enemy's in the region ?
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Are these hypothetical questions-- or do you have facts you'd like to share with us?
I'm not blaming Bill--he gots to make money somehow--and renting whitehouse--and pardons for cash are no longer alternatives--and don't think anyone will anti up for any more business ventures.
-however believe his best shot is backing Hiliary and hoping to get another bite at the apples
I'm not blaming Bill--he gots to make money somehow--and renting whitehouse--and pardons for cash are no longer alternatives--and don't think anyone will anti up for any more business ventures.
-however believe his best shot is backing Hiliary and hoping to get another bite at the apples
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