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Thomas Sowell

November 9, 2010
Political Judges

By Thomas Sowell

Results of the recent elections showed that growing numbers of Americans are fed up with "public servants" who act as if they are public masters. This went beyond the usual objections to particular policies. It was the fact that policies were crammed down our throats, whether we liked them or not. In fact, laws were passed so fast that nobody had time to read them.
Whether these policies were good, bad or indifferent, the way they were imposed represented a more fundamental threat to the very principles of a self-governing people established by the Constitution of the United States</SPAN>.

Arrogant politicians who do this are dismantling the Constitution piecemeal-- which is to say, they are dismantling America.
The voters struck back, as they had to, if we are to keep the freedoms that define this country. The Constitution cannot protect us unless we protect the Constitution, by getting rid of those who circumvent it or disregard it.
The same thing applies to judges. The runaway arrogance that politicians get when they have huge majorities in Congress is a more or less common arrogance among federal judges with lifetime tenure or state judges who are seldom defeated in elections to confirm their appointments to the bench.

It was a surprise to many-- and a shock to media liberals-- when three judges on Iowa's Supreme Court were voted off that court in the same recent elections in which a lot of politicians were also sent packing.


These judges had taken it upon themselves to rule that the voters of Iowa did not have the right to block attempts to change the definition of marriage to include homosexual couples. Here again, the particular issue-- so-called "gay marriage"-- was not as fundamental as the question of depriving the voting public of their right to decide what kinds of laws they want to live under.
That is ultimately a question of deciding what kind of country this is to be-- one ruled by "we the people" or one where the notions of an arrogant elite are to be imposed, whether the people agree or not.
Those who believe in gay marriage are free to vote for it. But, when they lose that vote, it is not the role of judges to nullify the vote and legislate from the bench. Judges who become politicians in robes often lie like politicians as well, claiming that they are just applying the Constitution, when they are in fact exercising powers that the Constitution never gave them.
If they are going to act like politicians, then they should be voted out like politicians.
Media liberals, who like what liberal judges do, spring to their defense. The media spin is that judges were voted off the bench because of "unpopular" decisions and that this threatens judicial "independence."
Since this was the first time that a justice of the Iowa Supreme Court was voted off the bench in nearly half a century, it is very doubtful that there was never an "unpopular" court decision in all that time. The media spin about "unpopular" decisions sidesteps the far more important question of whether the judges usurped powers that were never given to them by the Constitution.
As for judicial "independence," that does not mean being independent of the laws. Being a judge does not mean being given arbitrary powers to enact the liberal agenda from the bench, which means depriving the citizens of their most basic rights that define a free and self-governing people.
While removing three state Supreme Court justices at one time in Iowa is news today, the very same thing happened in California back in the 1970s. Every single death penalty imposed by a trial court in California was overturned by the state Supreme Court, with Chief Justice Rose Bird voting 64 times in a row that there was something wrong with the way each trial had been conducted. That was world-class chutzpa.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled that Arizona does not have a right to require proof of citizenship before someone can vote. Where does it say that in the Constitution?

The time is long overdue to stop treating judges like sacred cows, especially when they have so much bull.
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I hate those activist judges too, especially the five on the SCOTUS who decided that corporations have the right to anonymously contribute as much money as they like to political campaigns.
 

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I hate those activist judges too, especially the five on the SCOTUS who decided that corporations have the right to anonymously contribute as much money as they like to political campaigns.

Really,

What about the one who said she believed in the 2nd A, but when it came to a vote, well...

We know how that pig voted
 

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Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama go to heaven... God addresses Al first... ''Al, what do you believe in?'' Al replies: "Well, I believe that I won that election, but that it was your will that I did not serve. I've come to understand that now.'' God thinks for a second and says: "Very good. Come and sit at my left.'' God then addresses Bill. "Bill, what do you believe in?'' Bill replies: "I believe in forgiveness. I've sinned, but I've never held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held against me.'' God thinks for a second and says: "You are forgiven, my son. Come and sit at my right.'' Then God addresses John Boehner . " John, what do you believe in?'' He replies: "I believe you're in my chair."
 

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Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama go to heaven... God addresses Al first... ''Al, what do you believe in?'' Al replies: "Well, I believe that I won that election, but that it was your will that I did not serve. I've come to understand that now.'' God thinks for a second and says: "Very good. Come and sit at my left.'' God then addresses Bill. "Bill, what do you believe in?'' Bill replies: "I believe in forgiveness. I've sinned, but I've never held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held against me.'' God thinks for a second and says: "You are forgiven, my son. Come and sit at my right.'' Then God addresses John Boehner . " John, what do you believe in?'' He replies: "I believe you're in my chair."



Good one :0074 :0074 :0074 Keep'em coming:0074 :0074 :0074
 

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Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama go to heaven... God addresses Al first... ''Al, what do you believe in?'' Al replies: "Well, I believe that I won that election, but that it was your will that I did not serve. I've come to understand that now.'' God thinks for a second and says: "Very good. Come and sit at my left.'' God then addresses Bill. "Bill, what do you believe in?'' Bill replies: "I believe in forgiveness. I've sinned, but I've never held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held against me.'' God thinks for a second and says: "You are forgiven, my son. Come and sit at my right.'' Then God addresses UGA12 . " UGA12 , what do you believe in?'' He replies: "I believe you're in my chair."[/QUOTE]
 

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(CNN) - She's coming off a successful midterm election season, is on the heels of releasing a second book, and about to star in an adventure-packed reality television show, but Sarah Palin's poll numbers are going in the wrong direction.

A new survey by Gallup suggests more than half of all Americans (52 percent) now hold a negative view of the former Alaska governor, the highest unfavorable rating Palin has ever registered in the organization's polling. Her 40 percent favorable rating meanwhile ties her lowest score in Gallup history, registered in the fall of 2009 shortly after she quit her post as governor.
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She got what she wanted. She is now listed by Bradbury as having 10 million in assets.

She wouldnt have had that in the Governors office in Alaska. Its so easy to make decisions when big money is involved.

Sarah for President:00hour

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GW and O were on charity gig when they both happened to frequent same barber shop at same time. Both sat in chair at same time for hair cut and shave.

Gw was finishing up seconds before O and barber concluded with some aftershave lotion.
Barber finished with O and was about to put on after shave and O said stop. --"I don't want any of that junk on me--I don't want to go home to Michelle smelling like inside of whore house."

The barber that had put it on GW looked a little sheepish and was beginning to apologize when GW replied --Hey man no prob--Laura don't know what inside of whorehouse smells like.:SIB
 

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DTBlackgumby and rusty were on charity gig when they both happened to frequent same barber shop at same time. Both sat in chair at same time for hair cut and shave.

DTBlackgumby was finishing up seconds before rusty and barber concluded with some aftershave lotion.
Barber finished with rusty and was about to put on after shave and rusty said stop. --"I don't want to smell like DTBlackgumby because he stinks.

The barber that had put it on DTBlackgumby looked a little sheepish and was beginning to apologize when DTBlackgumby replied --

Hey man no prob-- I got a chart that says the level of things that stink. Let me find it and post it and make some confusing remarks about it. :)
 

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In reading this, the first thing that came to my mind was that I wonder how many judges typically are canned across the country - especially in states traditionally that go back and forth politically - in large shifts of voter opinion. This Iowa scenario is definitely a different kind of situation, and it took me about 2 minutes to see another side of this story. Clearly, we are starting to see what money can buy in the election process going forward, thanks to the activist judges (you can't have it both ways...) on the Supreme Court.

Apparently, the movement against these three judges was very well funded by anti-gay groups, mainly from out of state money. Exactly how does this best represent the people of Iowa? (You really don't need to answer that, it was rhetorical...). Here's the side of the story Sowell didn't mention in his ASSessment of such a stirring situation in Iowa. I know showing both sides of the story has been very important for you Wayne, at least in how I'll be teaching... :rolleyes:

Iowa Voters Kick Out Judges Who Favored Gay Marriage
BY ON TOP MAGAZINE STAFF
PUBLISHED: NOVEMBER 03, 2010
Iowa voters on Tuesday ousted three Iowa Supreme Court judges who ruled in favor of gay marriage, the AP reported.

The three judges were targeted by social conservatives furious at the court's 2009 unanimous decision that brought gay marriage to the Midwest.

Chief Justice Marsha Ternus and Justices David Baker and Michael Streit were voted off the bench. The other four judges were not on the ballot this year. Under Iowa's system, justices are appointed by the governor, but voters decide whether to retain judges to an 8 year term.

The campaign to remove the judges from the bench was spearheaded by Sioux City businessman Bob Vander Plaats, who launched the Iowa for Freedom campaign after losing the Republican nomination for governor. Vander Plaats' campaign was heavily financed by out-of-state anti-gay marriage groups, including the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), the nation's most vociferous opponent of gay marriage, the Family Research Council (FRC), and the Christian-based American Family Association (AFA). NOM had previously worked to repeal gay marriage laws in California and Maine.

?I think it will send a message across the country that the power resides with the people,? Vander Plaats told a crowd of supporters Tuesday night. ?It's we the people, not we the courts.?

Opponents of axing the judges argued that the move will politicize the court.
 

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The more I read about this, the more Sowell's OPINION column is not based on FACT - which I know is important to you, Wayne. In FACT, according to any poll I could find on this issue, and articles from Iowa newspapers and other sources, this issue had very little to do with how most people voted, let alone voted on whether to retain those judges for any reason. The only people apparently who cared about this issue to any VOTING degree would have been far right conservatives and gays who want to get married. And we've seen where the support for the far right wing movement came from - NATIONAL funding. Here are some FACTUAL notes from the Des Moines Register about this situation that Sowell misrepresents for his political gain:

? Iowans are almost evenly divided about whether they would vote for or against a constitutional amendment to end marriage for same-sex couples, according to The Des Moines Register's new Iowa Poll. Forty-one percent say they would vote for a ban, and 40 percent say they would vote to continue gay marriage. The rest either would not vote or say they are not sure. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

? The overwhelming majority of Iowans - 92 percent - say gay marriage has brought no real change to their lives. Sixty-three percent say candidates' stands on other issues will be more important in making their decisions in the 2010 elections. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

? Despite the 43 percent opposition to the ruling, 61 percent of Iowans say other issues will influence their decision on whether to vote to retain Iowa Supreme Court justices in the 2010 elections. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

Hey, Wayne, do you have any more right wing opinionated posts from conservatives to help teach us all about a balanced view on an issue?

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Hey, Wayne, do you have any more right wing opinionated posts from conservatives to help teach us all about a balanced view on an issue?

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The more I read about this, the more Sowell's OPINION column is not based on FACT - which I know is important to you, Wayne. In FACT, according to any poll I could find on this issue, and articles from Iowa newspapers and other sources, this issue had very little to do with how most people voted, let alone voted on whether to retain those judges for any reason. The only people apparently who cared about this issue to any VOTING degree would have been far right conservatives and gays who want to get married. And we've seen where the support for the far right wing movement came from - NATIONAL funding. Here are some FACTUAL notes from the Des Moines Register about this situation that Sowell misrepresents for his political gain:

? Iowans are almost evenly divided about whether they would vote for or against a constitutional amendment to end marriage for same-sex couples, according to The Des Moines Register's new Iowa Poll. Forty-one percent say they would vote for a ban, and 40 percent say they would vote to continue gay marriage. The rest either would not vote or say they are not sure. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

? The overwhelming majority of Iowans - 92 percent - say gay marriage has brought no real change to their lives. Sixty-three percent say candidates' stands on other issues will be more important in making their decisions in the 2010 elections. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

? Despite the 43 percent opposition to the ruling, 61 percent of Iowans say other issues will influence their decision on whether to vote to retain Iowa Supreme Court justices in the 2010 elections. (Dramatic majority - big voter movement against the judges on the topic?)

Hey, Wayne, do you have any more right wing opinionated posts from conservatives to help teach us all about a balanced view on an issue?

:0corn

Your dancing again--or trying to rewrite history


The way I see it-your liberal judges were axed and your liberal appeals is pandering to illegals--again

The below are facts

It was a surprise to many-- and a shock to media liberals-- when three judges on Iowa's Supreme Court were voted off that court in the same recent elections in which a lot of politicians were also sent packing.


The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled that Arizona does not have a right to require proof of citizenship before someone can vote. Where does it say that in the Constitution?



Now your turn--where did Sowell misrepresent the truth?

Save us the dance --or speculation of Demoines Register-

-just highlight the lines where Sowell distorted the truth.

You see thats my prob--your once again trying to hide the facts of your liberal judges getting canned and liberal court pandering to illegals-- with Demoine Register poll of 803 people that has very little do with it.

Lets see --Little Johnny comes out of class not having clue about historical events--judges fired/ 9th district pro illegals--but does have the #'s on Demoines registers 803 person poll.
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It was a surprise to many-- and a shock to media liberals-- when three judges on Iowa's Supreme Court were voted off that court in the same recent elections in which a lot of politicians were also sent packing.


Now your turn--where did Sowell misrepresent the truth?

It's not a question of truth. The judges decided a case based on law. Iowa voters decided to fire the judges for doing their job.

If Iowa voters don't like present law, they can petition the legislature to change the law, however Iowa voters apparently prefer to replace sitting judges with activist judges who will pacify the teabaggers, rather than follow the law. Iowans want more activist judges.

Judges should not answer to the will of the people. That's a recipe for disaster. Judges should answer ONLY to the rule of law.

I know that's a very difficult thing for you to understand, doggie, since you favor kangaroo courts.
 

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Thomas Sowell

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Political Judges

enact the liberal agenda from the bench, which means depriving the citizens of their most basic rights that define a free and self-governing people.


But it's apparently okay to enact the conservative agenda from the bench, eh?

Who is this asshole Thomas Sowell anyway, and why does doggie quote him?:violin:
 

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Actually feel bad about including Chad in with the rest of you--as he has the initiative and values to be "the daughter" --while you all are certified Audrey's and cherish the thought of riding on anothers back. :)


A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so
many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal
Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of
higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words
redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a
rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the
lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a
professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil,
selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher
taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The
self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the
truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how
she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily
that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain,
insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was
constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like
other people she knew. She didn?t even have time for a boyfriend, and
didn?t really have many college friends because she spent all her time
studying.
Her father listened and then asked, ?How is your friend Audrey doing??
She replied, ?Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy
classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so
popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She?s always invited to
all the parties and lots of times she doesn?t even show up for classes
because she?s too hung over.?
Her wise father asked his daughter, ?Why don?t you go to the Dean?s
office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your
friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and
certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.?
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father?s suggestion, angrily
fired back, ?That?s a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I?ve
worked really hard for my grades! I?ve invested a lot of time, and a
lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree.
She played while I worked my tail

off!?
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, ?Welcome to the Republican party.?
 
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