Taximike said:
Pretty immature comparision..........pigs, cows etc are breed to eat..............these horses are amazing animals and in many cases family pets. You my good man are a moron.
Poor Barbaro......just terrible
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Pretty immature comparision..........pigs, cows etc are breed to eat..............these horses are amazing animals and in many cases family pets. You my good man are a moron.
penguinfan said:
Good because you're so full of shit it's laughable. Back your shit up with facts not hypotheticals and specualtion.
It is sad what happened, but I see where Penguin is coming from, too.
I wonder how many horses a week end up like this? We don't see it, because it's not on the radar, so we don't really notice. Plus, it happened to the current "big star", so that adds to the shock value.
No one holds a vigil for these other horses. I'm pretty sure that's what he was driving at.
This "tragedy", is a very common occurrence in this cruel "sport".
I wonder how many horses a week end up like this? We don't see it, because it's not on the radar, so we don't really notice. Plus, it happened to the current "big star", so that adds to the shock value.
No one holds a vigil for these other horses. I'm pretty sure that's what he was driving at.
This "tragedy", is a very common occurrence in this cruel "sport".
even if you are not a race fan, horse lover or pet owner then if this didnt touch you are emotionly void of any substance........these are animals (pets and members of a family in most cases) and to see them suffering is sickening.......the link to the other horse was quite disturbing.
one thing that i agree with (and couldnt believe my eyes yesterday when it happened) was why the other horses werent AT LEAST taken out of the gate and re-entered. Horses that break early may be examined, may be scratched but they almost ALWAYS go thru another round of entering the horses back into the gate.
Was he injured prior when he broke out the first time???? Doubtful
Did it impact him getting injured the second time??? Doubtful
Should they examined him before starting the race the second time??? Questionable
Should they have taken them all out of the gate and reinserted? ??DEFINITELY
one thing that i agree with (and couldnt believe my eyes yesterday when it happened) was why the other horses werent AT LEAST taken out of the gate and re-entered. Horses that break early may be examined, may be scratched but they almost ALWAYS go thru another round of entering the horses back into the gate.
Was he injured prior when he broke out the first time???? Doubtful
Did it impact him getting injured the second time??? Doubtful
Should they examined him before starting the race the second time??? Questionable
Should they have taken them all out of the gate and reinserted? ??DEFINITELY
S-Love said:
So you are saying yesterday's event was a rarity? Maybe you can look up the data to prove me wrong, then, since I don't really give a shit.
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa. - Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro underwent more than five hours of surgery Sunday to repair three broken bones in his right rear leg and afterward "practically jogged back to the stall," the colt's surgeon said.
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At this moment "he is extremely comfortable in the leg," said Dr. Dean Richardson, who stressed before the marathon procedure that he's never worked on so many catastrophic injuries to one horse.
Barbaro sustained "life-threatening injuries" Saturday when he broke bones above and below his right rear ankle at the start of the Preakness Stakes. His surgery began around 1 p.m. Sunday at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center for Large Animals.
Although the operation was successful, Richardson warned that Barbaro was far from home free. He said it was still "a coin toss" that the strapping 3-year-old colt would be able to survive what had been termed catastrophic injuries.
"I feel much more comfortable now," trainer Michael Matz said afterward. "I feel at least he has a chance."
Unbeaten and a serious contender for the Triple Crown, Barbaro broke down Saturday only a few hundred yards into the 1 3-16-mile Preakness. The record crowd of 118,402 watched in shock as Barbaro veered sideways, his right leg flaring out grotesquely. Jockey Edgar Prado pulled the powerful colt to a halt, jumped off and awaited medical assistance.
Barbaro sustained a broken cannon bone above the ankle, a broken sesamoid bone behind the ankle and a broken long pastern bone below the ankle. The fetlock joint ? the ankle ? was dislocated.
Richardson said the pastern bone was shattered in "20-plus pieces."
The bones were put in place to fuse the joint by inserting a plate and 23 screws to repair damage so severe that most horses would not be able to survive it.
When he came out of surgery, Barbaro was lifted by sling and placed on a raft in a pool so he could calmly awake from the anesthetic. When he went back to his stall, he was wearing a cast from just below the hock to the hoof.
"He's a real genuine athlete, there's no doubt about it," Richardson said. "Even the way he woke up from anesthesia, he was very much the athlete waking up from general anesthesia."
Matz, who attended the briefing with Richardson, looked fatigued, but relieved.
"From the last time I saw him to now was a big relief," Matz said. "They did an excellent job. It's just an amazing thing to see him walk in like that."
Richardson again stressed that surgery was just the first step on a long road to recovery.
"Getting the horse up is a big step, but it is not the last step by any means," he said. "Horses with this type of injury are very, very susceptible to lots of other problems, including infection at the site."
Horses are often euthanized after serious leg injuries because circulation problems and deadly disease can arise if they are unable to distribute weight on all fours.
Richardson said he expects Barbaro to remain at the center for several weeks, but "it wouldn't surprise me if he's here much longer than that."
Tucked away on a sprawling, lush 650-acre campus in Chester County, the New Bolton Center is widely considered the top hospital for horses in the mid-Atlantic region. The center is renowned for its specialized care, especially on animals needing complicated surgery on bone injuries.
At the front gate early Sunday, well-wishers already had tacked up signs: "Thank you, Barbaro," "Believe in Barbaro" and "We Love you Barbaro."
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At this moment "he is extremely comfortable in the leg," said Dr. Dean Richardson, who stressed before the marathon procedure that he's never worked on so many catastrophic injuries to one horse.
Barbaro sustained "life-threatening injuries" Saturday when he broke bones above and below his right rear ankle at the start of the Preakness Stakes. His surgery began around 1 p.m. Sunday at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center for Large Animals.
Although the operation was successful, Richardson warned that Barbaro was far from home free. He said it was still "a coin toss" that the strapping 3-year-old colt would be able to survive what had been termed catastrophic injuries.
"I feel much more comfortable now," trainer Michael Matz said afterward. "I feel at least he has a chance."
Unbeaten and a serious contender for the Triple Crown, Barbaro broke down Saturday only a few hundred yards into the 1 3-16-mile Preakness. The record crowd of 118,402 watched in shock as Barbaro veered sideways, his right leg flaring out grotesquely. Jockey Edgar Prado pulled the powerful colt to a halt, jumped off and awaited medical assistance.
Barbaro sustained a broken cannon bone above the ankle, a broken sesamoid bone behind the ankle and a broken long pastern bone below the ankle. The fetlock joint ? the ankle ? was dislocated.
Richardson said the pastern bone was shattered in "20-plus pieces."
The bones were put in place to fuse the joint by inserting a plate and 23 screws to repair damage so severe that most horses would not be able to survive it.
When he came out of surgery, Barbaro was lifted by sling and placed on a raft in a pool so he could calmly awake from the anesthetic. When he went back to his stall, he was wearing a cast from just below the hock to the hoof.
"He's a real genuine athlete, there's no doubt about it," Richardson said. "Even the way he woke up from anesthesia, he was very much the athlete waking up from general anesthesia."
Matz, who attended the briefing with Richardson, looked fatigued, but relieved.
"From the last time I saw him to now was a big relief," Matz said. "They did an excellent job. It's just an amazing thing to see him walk in like that."
Richardson again stressed that surgery was just the first step on a long road to recovery.
"Getting the horse up is a big step, but it is not the last step by any means," he said. "Horses with this type of injury are very, very susceptible to lots of other problems, including infection at the site."
Horses are often euthanized after serious leg injuries because circulation problems and deadly disease can arise if they are unable to distribute weight on all fours.
Richardson said he expects Barbaro to remain at the center for several weeks, but "it wouldn't surprise me if he's here much longer than that."
Tucked away on a sprawling, lush 650-acre campus in Chester County, the New Bolton Center is widely considered the top hospital for horses in the mid-Atlantic region. The center is renowned for its specialized care, especially on animals needing complicated surgery on bone injuries.
At the front gate early Sunday, well-wishers already had tacked up signs: "Thank you, Barbaro," "Believe in Barbaro" and "We Love you Barbaro."
Penguinfan and Taximike.....sorry to see you have no compassion for animals, but from Penguinfan, I would expect nothing less. Loser.
An ex-fling of mine is at vet school at UPENN and was tableside during the surgery. This is what she had to say of Barbaro, I thought some might find it interesting:
penguinfan said:
love the irony here :142smilie
if the boys wasnt being sarcastic...
for the record i agree with PF
:sadwave: barbaro
