Poor, poor sportsmanship by Wisconsin coach

[Penguinfan]

The punk ass intentional offsides twice in a row on the kickoff to kill the clock may be within the rules, but man is that bush league.

How fawking funny is that, they get a fumble recovery on the kickoff but there is no time left, haha.

 

[s_dooley24]

yeah that was definately weak

 

[Bigdog4242]

well, I don't call it sportsmanship at all it is just a bad rule in college football that the clock runs all the time now.

 

[wersty]

haha i think it was great coaching and joe pa thru a little tissy fit learn the rules joe:mj07:

 

[Penguinfan]

haha i think it was great coaching and joe pa thru a little tissy fit learn the rules joe:mj07:

I'm quite certain JoePa knows the rules (when to retire is a whole different question), I think he was mad at the lack of respect shown by Wisconsin.

Karma is a bitch, I know that.

 

[Mags]

I'm still thinking about this..

I'm still thinking about this..

While it was innovative, well within the rules.. well, it doesn't feel right to take advantage of a loophole in the rules.

However, I know there have been circumstances where other coaches do it.

How about when a team intentionally takes a safety? Within the rules, but not trying to win by doing so. Yes, it may make sense for the team doing it, but so did the kickoff strategy.

Or taking a delay of game and letting the clock run down?

Bottom line - he took a penalty while running time down.... I guess it isn't much different than some of those other situations.

The reason why people are up in arms is that nobody has thought of it before, so it has shock value I guess.

So, while uncoventional, I uess I'm ok with it if other "negative" plays are allowed, such as intentially taking a safety, or letting a team score a TD when you are down by 1 late in the game (to try to catch up by getting a TD and 2 pt late in game).

I'm just saying - there are many situations where teams manipulate situations in the game, not putting their best effort and doing negative things, to give them a better chance to win the game.

How is this different?

 

[SouthBayCougar]

F PSU - what do you thing Holmgren did a few weeks ago, illegal formation doesnt get a 10 second run off, illegal start does.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

Its not the coaches/players/teams job to make rules. There are so many bad rules in college football that could be easily corrected.

Rules committee is to blame.

The only exception to taking advantage of a rule that I can think of would be something like physically hurting/injuring another player. Like, if its 1st and goal from the 1, and you just late hit a guy so its now 1st and goal from the 1/2...that would be bush league.

How do these rule makers not look ahead to what could happen???

Oh yeah, there too busy making money instead of integrity.

 

[Mags]

Me thinks

Me thinks

that penquinfan is being blinded by Penn State Loyalty....

If Paterno had thought of it, it would be the most brilliant thing he'd ever seen...

Sometimes it pays to have a young head coach that can think of new, innovative things rather than doing the same things over and over again cuz that's how we always did it....

 

[Penguinfan]

Mags, if it were a violation of the rules I would have said they were cheating, fact is they are within the rules taking advantage of a loophole, that is what I meant by poor sportsmanship.

Never said it was cheating.

Lets say team A runs back the opening kickoff for a TD and just does what Wisky did and runs out the entire clock?

Keep in mind they would be kicking off to start the second half as well, they could do the same thing over and over and win 7-0.

Would you consider this within the rules? Sure.

Would you consider it good sportsmanship?

 

[Mags]

Penguin

Penguin

I never used the term "cheating".. not sure why you emphasized that term... maybe someone else did...

And keep in mind - that strategy you mentioned wouldn't work. AND Penn State could have declined the penalty at any time. So, if you keep doing it, you kick off from the goal line at some point, and then you'd get good field position and decline the penalty.

One more note: while I had no problem with the "old fart" comment (we'll all get old - and let's face it, he IS 79 - which does qualify as an old fart) - it was VERY sad to see him get hurt on the sideline...

I don't know any 79 year olds that could take that type of hit and get up.....he is a tough old buzzard (j/k)..

 

[Penguinfan]

Just so I am clear, you can decline and offside penatly on the kicking team?

If so that changes my opinion, at least somewhat.

 

[Mags]

I'm not a football official, but I'm pretty sure you can.

The reason Penn State didn't was because they were tackled at the 10 both times.

Of course, the reason they were tackled at the 10 was due to the Badgers being 15 yards downfield when the ball was kicked (which was part of the strategy - make sure they get done far enough so the runner can't get anywhere)