yyz said:
We keep reading the same commentary from you on the contest- fyi- 'tallest midget' doesn't get more witty the more you post it
now KOD is a different story- there's some real comedy
PP vs. ACE - odds of winning
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We keep reading the same commentary from you on the contest- fyi- 'tallest midget' doesn't get more witty the more you post it
now KOD is a different story- there's some real comedy
None of your banter has ever been witty, so, once again, I won't lose sleep over another inane post from you.
Nick Douglas said:Padre del Koty,
Send the 10 bucks to Jack and you've got yourself a bet as soon as Jack emails me and confirms that the money is in his "escrow".
You're on Nicholas. I'll send a check by the end of next week. Most likely there will still be 47 picks left.
..............................................................njsf25g said:
nj
your kidding right ?
I know what .
I will do take a poll on it.
take me just a minute. we will see about this.
KOD
Sounds good. I will email Jack to confirm his status as escrow holder and then send him the check for $2.98.
Scott, I still play the big dogs, just not on the moneyline. Even though I would have been better off this year playing my pups on the moneyline so far, lines are lower than back when I played them. Used to be you'd get +400 on a 9 point dog, now you are lucky to get +320. used to be +250 for 6.5, now maybe +210 or +220. Just not as much value as there is in the spread, especially at places like Sportsinteraction where you can get an inflated underdog spread bet close to game time.
Scott, I still play the big dogs, just not on the moneyline. Even though I would have been better off this year playing my pups on the moneyline so far, lines are lower than back when I played them. Used to be you'd get +400 on a 9 point dog, now you are lucky to get +320. used to be +250 for 6.5, now maybe +210 or +220. Just not as much value as there is in the spread, especially at places like Sportsinteraction where you can get an inflated underdog spread bet close to game time.
Nick you are right lines trend seems to be lower. Nick maybe we could have odds if there is anyone left here that can get better then 57% on any sport.
djv, I agree with you and that leads me to ponder this. Petey and I have taken a lot of shit for hovering just under 50% overall (even though I know I hit 50 in hockey and was around +5,000 from betting dogs) from folks - some in jest, and some not from people who frankly have no leg to stand on handicapping wise. I wouldnt mind a madjacks wide handicapping contest like this one. There are a few improvements I would want to see in bestbettor first, but I think if some of the big hitters would get involved, we could make it interesting.
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Petey and you have taken a lot of shit because the two of you got in a pissing match. It got taken to this level. You were shitting your pants over it, and did you best to back out. Finally, you accepted the terms. Both of you have proven that you have no business being in such a contest.
You both made high amount of plays early, presumably to get the lead on the other guy, and have 'chest thumping rights' while that lead lasted. (As Petey did for a short while, and you are doing currently.) I figure that you both shot out plays hoping to get a big lead. (Not a lot of handicapping needs to be involved in a one on one grudge match, as we are all seeing.)
This "contest" will only show that one of you beat the other out of six hundred clams, and that this game of gambling continues to be a battle of 47%-53% winners. You will both, most likely, finish with a lossing record, and I think that would be about right for most of us.
When I tried my hand at handicapping a couple years back, it was very time consuming, and yielded about 50% winners. Now, I do it here and there, and hit around 50%. If I let my gramma pick the plays, she would hit around 50%. There is no fountain of youth, no Santa Claus, and no one getting rich on their plays betting sports at Mad Jack's.
Yes, one of you will get bragging rights over the other, and I'm sure you will use them, but remember this.
Someone wins the Special Olympics every year too. It might be a big deal to them, but no one else really cares.
Good luck to you and Corky down the stretch.
You both made high amount of plays early, presumably to get the lead on the other guy, and have 'chest thumping rights' while that lead lasted. (As Petey did for a short while, and you are doing currently.) I figure that you both shot out plays hoping to get a big lead. (Not a lot of handicapping needs to be involved in a one on one grudge match, as we are all seeing.)
This "contest" will only show that one of you beat the other out of six hundred clams, and that this game of gambling continues to be a battle of 47%-53% winners. You will both, most likely, finish with a lossing record, and I think that would be about right for most of us.
When I tried my hand at handicapping a couple years back, it was very time consuming, and yielded about 50% winners. Now, I do it here and there, and hit around 50%. If I let my gramma pick the plays, she would hit around 50%. There is no fountain of youth, no Santa Claus, and no one getting rich on their plays betting sports at Mad Jack's.
Yes, one of you will get bragging rights over the other, and I'm sure you will use them, but remember this.
Someone wins the Special Olympics every year too. It might be a big deal to them, but no one else really cares.
Good luck to you and Corky down the stretch.
yyz,
When you have no clue what you are doing, then spending all the time in the world isn't going to help. This, you are right about. For those of us that have some idea as to what handicapping is, then putting in hard work and being disciplined can yield positive results over the long term. Your problem is that you are an incompetent handicapper but you think that just because you are incapable of improving, that others share your malady. If you actually woke up and tried to learn the true craft of handicapping, you might have a different attitude.
When you have no clue what you are doing, then spending all the time in the world isn't going to help. This, you are right about. For those of us that have some idea as to what handicapping is, then putting in hard work and being disciplined can yield positive results over the long term. Your problem is that you are an incompetent handicapper but you think that just because you are incapable of improving, that others share your malady. If you actually woke up and tried to learn the true craft of handicapping, you might have a different attitude.
Wow Am I to take it you two guys have a misunderstanding. I can say this Nick hard work is correct. It does always put me in my place how hard to maintain anything over 56/57% is to do.
But when I see the braggers blowing there smoke our way. I just laugh. I now right a way there either doing it for the first time and had a little run of luck. Or are just plain BS's. Yes you can even have a good year in one sport and hit 60%. Then you wonder what happen the next year when you get 55%.
But when I see the braggers blowing there smoke our way. I just laugh. I now right a way there either doing it for the first time and had a little run of luck. Or are just plain BS's. Yes you can even have a good year in one sport and hit 60%. Then you wonder what happen the next year when you get 55%.
Great post Nick I still dont get why some folks dont see it as a long term race not a short term sprint. I think you of all people can understand you have up months and down months, up years and down years. In 02 my posted record was 55% with a huge profit. Great year for me. So I am at 48% for the past 4 months, big deal. Does that make me a bad handicapper? A handicappers record should be a long term portrait, not short term snapshot.
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Please, Nick.......clue me in.
When I start seeing more than two of the 6000 posters here "make money" at this, I will change my tune. Since you "have an idea" as to what handicapping is, why are you posting loss after loss, year after year? Are you hoping 10 winning seasons in a row down the road is in your karmatic future? Who's the biggest joke? A guy who didn't waste his whole life trying to "beat the unbeatable", or the clown who thinks he can, if he "tweaks this, and adjusts that"?
You keep working on "systems" and starting from scratch when the losses get too high.....that's great.
Is that what makes a "competent handicapper", Nick. I have taken the liberty of getting your posted results over the last few seasons:
Final 2003 MLB Record: 49-80, -3327
Current Bundesliga Record: 1-1, -6
Current Premier League Record, 1-1, +29
Final 2003 NCAA Football Record: 1-1, -150
Final 2003 NFL Record: 1-4, -267
Final 2002-2003 Soccer Record: 2-9, -700
Final 2002-2003 NBA Record: 14-28, -1385
Final 2002-2003 NHL Record: 36-50, -1026
Final 2002 NFL Record: 24-36-1, -1290
Final 2002 MLB Record: 126-152, -4014
Final 2002 NFLX Record: 2-3, -480
Final 2002 World Cup Record: 1-8, -1370
Final 2001-2002 NHL Record: 89-106, +1857
Final 2001-2002 NBA Record: 67-81, +5469
Final 2001-2002 UEFA Champions League Record: 3-6, +175
Final 2001 NFL Record: 51-44, +773
Final 2001 NFLX Record: 5-6, -315
Final 2001 MLB Record: 145-165, +3946
What about that, makes you a success?
Now, you would have us think you caught some new way to score by you latest method of wagering:
Wagering System: I risk a maximum of 500 per day. You can adjust that number according to your bankroll. My goal is to make 500 per week. If I make 1000 in a week, I stop wagering and start again the following week.
If your goal is to make $500 a week, then that is where you should stop, not at $1000. No fuking wonder you can't win! And where has this gotten you? Well, currently it has you down another $868!
Yes, Nick......I should check to the power, and listen to what you have to say!
I certainly don't wish you ill-will, Nick, and like all your other pie in the sky ventures, I hope you can turn this around. But from what you've shown, it won't be from your prowess as a handicapper of sporting events.
Before you plan on preaching from a soapbox, you better make sure you have one to stand on, son.
When I start seeing more than two of the 6000 posters here "make money" at this, I will change my tune. Since you "have an idea" as to what handicapping is, why are you posting loss after loss, year after year? Are you hoping 10 winning seasons in a row down the road is in your karmatic future? Who's the biggest joke? A guy who didn't waste his whole life trying to "beat the unbeatable", or the clown who thinks he can, if he "tweaks this, and adjusts that"?
You keep working on "systems" and starting from scratch when the losses get too high.....that's great.
Is that what makes a "competent handicapper", Nick. I have taken the liberty of getting your posted results over the last few seasons:
Final 2003 MLB Record: 49-80, -3327
Current Bundesliga Record: 1-1, -6
Current Premier League Record, 1-1, +29
Final 2003 NCAA Football Record: 1-1, -150
Final 2003 NFL Record: 1-4, -267
Final 2002-2003 Soccer Record: 2-9, -700
Final 2002-2003 NBA Record: 14-28, -1385
Final 2002-2003 NHL Record: 36-50, -1026
Final 2002 NFL Record: 24-36-1, -1290
Final 2002 MLB Record: 126-152, -4014
Final 2002 NFLX Record: 2-3, -480
Final 2002 World Cup Record: 1-8, -1370
Final 2001-2002 NHL Record: 89-106, +1857
Final 2001-2002 NBA Record: 67-81, +5469
Final 2001-2002 UEFA Champions League Record: 3-6, +175
Final 2001 NFL Record: 51-44, +773
Final 2001 NFLX Record: 5-6, -315
Final 2001 MLB Record: 145-165, +3946
What about that, makes you a success?
Now, you would have us think you caught some new way to score by you latest method of wagering:
Wagering System: I risk a maximum of 500 per day. You can adjust that number according to your bankroll. My goal is to make 500 per week. If I make 1000 in a week, I stop wagering and start again the following week.
If your goal is to make $500 a week, then that is where you should stop, not at $1000. No fuking wonder you can't win! And where has this gotten you? Well, currently it has you down another $868!
Yes, Nick......I should check to the power, and listen to what you have to say!
I certainly don't wish you ill-will, Nick, and like all your other pie in the sky ventures, I hope you can turn this around. But from what you've shown, it won't be from your prowess as a handicapper of sporting events.
Before you plan on preaching from a soapbox, you better make sure you have one to stand on, son.
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Don't call me son, old man.
My record is posted for everyone to see. I am not ashamed of my losses and not once did I ever say that my winning results would continue indefinitely when I was posting positive results.
The good thing about you bringing up the things posted on my page is that it illustrates why you have no clue. You don't understand handicapping. You don't understand that even good handicappers lose. You don't understand that handicapping is a constantly changing craft and that strategies must be changed frequently to stay ahead of the game. That is why I lost money from 6/2002 to 9/2003. I was clinging to old handicapping techniques and not managing my money properly.
Since I started following this money management system, I've had 10 winnings weeks, 4 losing weeks and an overall profit of 1830. This week I am up 270. I know that 14 weeks is not a long time but I believe that I will continue to do well betting this way.
You can make fun of my poor recent record or my current money management technique if you want, but remember that anything coming out of your mouth is coming from the mouth of a lifetime loser. A weak, pathetic person who has given up on achieving anything special out of handicapping and, most likely, out of life.
You obviously love gambling and you obviously are a compulsive gambler. You made the choice to be close-minded and give up on excelling at your chosen craft. Don't assume just because you've resigned youself to living as a compulsive gambling loser that other people don't have the heart and dedication to prosper doing the same thing you've failed at.
My record is posted for everyone to see. I am not ashamed of my losses and not once did I ever say that my winning results would continue indefinitely when I was posting positive results.
The good thing about you bringing up the things posted on my page is that it illustrates why you have no clue. You don't understand handicapping. You don't understand that even good handicappers lose. You don't understand that handicapping is a constantly changing craft and that strategies must be changed frequently to stay ahead of the game. That is why I lost money from 6/2002 to 9/2003. I was clinging to old handicapping techniques and not managing my money properly.
Since I started following this money management system, I've had 10 winnings weeks, 4 losing weeks and an overall profit of 1830. This week I am up 270. I know that 14 weeks is not a long time but I believe that I will continue to do well betting this way.
You can make fun of my poor recent record or my current money management technique if you want, but remember that anything coming out of your mouth is coming from the mouth of a lifetime loser. A weak, pathetic person who has given up on achieving anything special out of handicapping and, most likely, out of life.
You obviously love gambling and you obviously are a compulsive gambler. You made the choice to be close-minded and give up on excelling at your chosen craft. Don't assume just because you've resigned youself to living as a compulsive gambling loser that other people don't have the heart and dedication to prosper doing the same thing you've failed at.
