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Sam,
I think this might be the strongest play of the day. Flames are going the wrong direction right now, Turek is out correct? I think Detroit will continue to try and tighten things down on defense........
good luck tonight-
I think this might be the strongest play of the day. Flames are going the wrong direction right now, Turek is out correct? I think Detroit will continue to try and tighten things down on defense........
good luck tonight-
What about the stats that Wings won onyl 4 of L10 in Calgary...i know Flames in some shit now ( lost 0-4 to loussy Anaheim )....
One thing I like in this is DET stellar road record. Plus the fact that they have not won in 3 games. Sort of a play against them going winless in 4 straight which as not happened since January 11-19, 2000, when they went 0-3-2.
Looks good Sam
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SEPT 11, 2001. THE DAY THAT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
R.I.P. TO ALL VICTIMS
We are in this together
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SEPT 11, 2001. THE DAY THAT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
R.I.P. TO ALL VICTIMS
We are in this together
Calgary paper sez Turek "hasn't skated since [hurting knee on thurs] may go on the ice today or tues". Vernon "despite his stiff neck, he'll play tonight".
Some suspensions for fights could be given out by NHL today, but Calgary coach doubts it. That public statement by coach maybe some attempt to influence?
Might pissed off Calgary take out frustration on Wings? They've defeated them enough in the past. 21-13-3 at Calgary, and downed them at Detroit this season. But Detroit trying hard to avoid 4 winless
streak, Vernon in net and rapidly slipping Calgary team....
Must be more info and ideas out there..
Some suspensions for fights could be given out by NHL today, but Calgary coach doubts it. That public statement by coach maybe some attempt to influence?
Might pissed off Calgary take out frustration on Wings? They've defeated them enough in the past. 21-13-3 at Calgary, and downed them at Detroit this season. But Detroit trying hard to avoid 4 winless
streak, Vernon in net and rapidly slipping Calgary team....
Must be more info and ideas out there..
Tedy, past numbers dont come into play here. Wings dominated yotes last game, but got STONED by burke. Vernon not capable of that. Wings in a different class than Flames. I'll take my chances
Terry, this isnt the same Flames team that beat Wings early on.
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Terry, this isnt the same Flames team that beat Wings early on.
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looks like scott nichol is about the only flame that could receive a suspension, for spitting on an anaheim player...flames are in disarray right now, yes they have a history of playing detroit tough but have little cohesiveness as a team right now and their O is suffering..you stick your best two D guys against the Iginla line and hold them in check, you probably will beat calg right now w/o turek IMO........
calg.....
Again, Calgary coach Greg Gilbert is stuck with a few game-time decisions -- D Derek Morris (sprained left wrist) will probably go, D Jamie Allison (neck) could go if Morris doesn't.
The Special Teams
Power Play-- Detroit: 22.2 per cent (2nd overall); Calgary: 18.3 per cent (7th).
Penalty Killing -- Detroit: 86.3 per cent (12th overall); Calgary: 83.2 per cent (22nd).
- Not surprisingly, the Flames are now the most penalized team in the league, an average of 24.3 minutes per night. The Red Wings are the ninth-least penalized group.
- The Red Wings own a league-leading seven short-handed goals.
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calg.....
Again, Calgary coach Greg Gilbert is stuck with a few game-time decisions -- D Derek Morris (sprained left wrist) will probably go, D Jamie Allison (neck) could go if Morris doesn't.
The Special Teams
Power Play-- Detroit: 22.2 per cent (2nd overall); Calgary: 18.3 per cent (7th).
Penalty Killing -- Detroit: 86.3 per cent (12th overall); Calgary: 83.2 per cent (22nd).
- Not surprisingly, the Flames are now the most penalized team in the league, an average of 24.3 minutes per night. The Red Wings are the ninth-least penalized group.
- The Red Wings own a league-leading seven short-handed goals.
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Dominik Hasek is disappointed in himself.
TONIGHT: COYOTES
Face-off: Red Wings vs. Phoenix, 7:30, Joe Louis Arena.
TV/radio: Fox Sports Net; WXYT-AM (1270), CFCO-AM (630), WTKA-AM (1050).
Injuries: Detroit -- D Uwe Krupp (rotator cuff), D Jesse Wallin (groin, abdomen), out. Phoenix -- D Todd Simpson (broken foot), out.
Overview: The Wings will try to recover from their first two-game losing streak of the season. Detroit won the first meeting, 3-1, Nov. 7 at Phoenix. The Wings are 4-0-2 in their past six against Phoenix, and haven't lost to the Coyotes since Jan. 31, 2000.
He said Thursday he played his "worst game this year" on Wednesday night, when he allowed four goals on 18 shots in the Red Wings' 4-1 loss to Colorado. He also said he hadn't "proven anything here yet."
"I feel I could be more helpful to the team," Hasek said. "I feel like I came here to play better than I've played until this point."
The Dominator, as Hasek is known, has won six Vezina trophies as the NHL's top goaltender. He won the Vezina last season. Then he asked Buffalo to trade him to Detroit over the summer, and the Sabres obliged.
At 15-6-1, Hasek leads the league in victories. But his 2.54 goals-against average and .902 save percentage are nowhere near the league leaders, and thus, they are nowhere near his high standards.
"I expect more from myself, especially in the last six or seven games," Hasek said. "We won some of them. We lost some of them. I am not very pleased with my performance. I'm sort of upset, especially after last couple games."
The Avalanche stunned Hasek by scoring 32 seconds into Wednesday night's game. Less than six minutes later, the Avs scored a soft power-play goal. The puck went in off the inside of Hasek's left pad.
Afterward, "I was down," Hasek said.
The Avs' final goal looked awful. Defenseman Rob Blake took a seemingly harmless shot that slipped underneath Hasek's pads.
"I felt terrible after a game like that," Hasek said. "I gave up goal on the first shot. I gave up goal on the last shot. I gave up goal on the first power play. It's like . . . I was very disappointed with myself.
"What can I say? It was probably my worst game this year."
As they have all season, the Wings said they have been relying far too much on Hasek, who has saved them on several occasions. But he shrugged off those comments.
He also shrugged off talk that he has a history of starting slowly, only to heat up later in the season.
"I don't want to talk about it," Hasek said. "It's a new season, new team. My goal is to play better, no doubt."
Hull down about his low output
December 10, 2001
After a short practice Sunday, a frustrated Brett Hull ripped off his uniform and pads.
When asked about his recent play, Hull's blood pressure rises. He's angry with himself, and he's not shy about showing it.
"It's not really good when you're a goal-scorer and you can't score," Hull said before the Wings left for a three-game Canadian trip.
Hull, who has 658 career goals, started the season strong, with seven goals and eight assists in his first 15 games. But he has just two goals and three assists in his past 15.
Take away two six-shot games -- Friday against Phoenix and Nov. 17 against Los Angeles -- and Hull has just 12 shots in 13 games. Hull doesn't have the answer to cure his inconsistency.
"If I could tell you stuff like that I would be a genius," Hull said.
But even geniuses can figure out that Hull has had poor luck.
He has hit the pipes a number of times in the past 15 games, and he has had an empty-net goal taken away after the final buzzer sounded at Phoenix on Nov. 7. He also had a goal taken away by an inconclusive replay against St. Louis on Nov. 23.
"I'm still unlucky," Hull said. "That's the way my career is going right now -- downhill."
Against Phoenix on Friday, Hull was moved down to a line with rookie Pavel Datsyuk and Boyd Devereaux. He responded with six shots on goal. Associate coach Barry Smith says he expects that line to stay intact.
NOTEBOOK: The Wings have scored three goals in the past three games, dropping them to second in the NHL with 3.30 goals per game. Ottawa has a slight lead with 3.32. . . . Goaltender Dominik Hasek said his new red and white mask needs padding and is almost ready. Hasek hopes to debut the mask next Monday at home against Chicago. . . . Defenseman Jesse Wallin practiced this past weekend for the first time since surgery Nov. 9 on a groin/abdominal tear. He should be able to play by early January. . . . Smith said defenseman Fredrik Olausson was given Sunday off because he was feeling ill. He is expected to play tonight.
TONIGHT: FLAMES
Matchup: Red Wings vs. Calgary, 9, Saddledome.
TV/radio: Channel 50; WXYT-AM (1270), WTKA-AM (1050), CFCO-AM (630).
Injuries: Detroit -- D Uwe Krupp (shoulder), D Jesse Wallin (groin/abdomen), out. Calgary -- G Roman Turek (right knee), D Derek Morris (wrist), questionable; D Brad Werenka (concussion), C Jeff Shantz (knee), C Oleg Saprykin (neck), out.
Overview: Detroit is 1-1 against Calgary this season. Former Wings goalie Mike Vernon might start for the Flames, but that may be bad news. Vernon is winless in his past 13 starts, and hasn't won since Feb. 9. He played well in his last game against the Wings, stopping 34 shots in a 4-2 Flames victory at Calgary on Jan. 21. The Flames are winless in 11 games, and have a five-game winless skid at home.
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TONIGHT: COYOTES
Face-off: Red Wings vs. Phoenix, 7:30, Joe Louis Arena.
TV/radio: Fox Sports Net; WXYT-AM (1270), CFCO-AM (630), WTKA-AM (1050).
Injuries: Detroit -- D Uwe Krupp (rotator cuff), D Jesse Wallin (groin, abdomen), out. Phoenix -- D Todd Simpson (broken foot), out.
Overview: The Wings will try to recover from their first two-game losing streak of the season. Detroit won the first meeting, 3-1, Nov. 7 at Phoenix. The Wings are 4-0-2 in their past six against Phoenix, and haven't lost to the Coyotes since Jan. 31, 2000.
He said Thursday he played his "worst game this year" on Wednesday night, when he allowed four goals on 18 shots in the Red Wings' 4-1 loss to Colorado. He also said he hadn't "proven anything here yet."
"I feel I could be more helpful to the team," Hasek said. "I feel like I came here to play better than I've played until this point."
The Dominator, as Hasek is known, has won six Vezina trophies as the NHL's top goaltender. He won the Vezina last season. Then he asked Buffalo to trade him to Detroit over the summer, and the Sabres obliged.
At 15-6-1, Hasek leads the league in victories. But his 2.54 goals-against average and .902 save percentage are nowhere near the league leaders, and thus, they are nowhere near his high standards.
"I expect more from myself, especially in the last six or seven games," Hasek said. "We won some of them. We lost some of them. I am not very pleased with my performance. I'm sort of upset, especially after last couple games."
The Avalanche stunned Hasek by scoring 32 seconds into Wednesday night's game. Less than six minutes later, the Avs scored a soft power-play goal. The puck went in off the inside of Hasek's left pad.
Afterward, "I was down," Hasek said.
The Avs' final goal looked awful. Defenseman Rob Blake took a seemingly harmless shot that slipped underneath Hasek's pads.
"I felt terrible after a game like that," Hasek said. "I gave up goal on the first shot. I gave up goal on the last shot. I gave up goal on the first power play. It's like . . . I was very disappointed with myself.
"What can I say? It was probably my worst game this year."
As they have all season, the Wings said they have been relying far too much on Hasek, who has saved them on several occasions. But he shrugged off those comments.
He also shrugged off talk that he has a history of starting slowly, only to heat up later in the season.
"I don't want to talk about it," Hasek said. "It's a new season, new team. My goal is to play better, no doubt."
Hull down about his low output
December 10, 2001
After a short practice Sunday, a frustrated Brett Hull ripped off his uniform and pads.
When asked about his recent play, Hull's blood pressure rises. He's angry with himself, and he's not shy about showing it.
"It's not really good when you're a goal-scorer and you can't score," Hull said before the Wings left for a three-game Canadian trip.
Hull, who has 658 career goals, started the season strong, with seven goals and eight assists in his first 15 games. But he has just two goals and three assists in his past 15.
Take away two six-shot games -- Friday against Phoenix and Nov. 17 against Los Angeles -- and Hull has just 12 shots in 13 games. Hull doesn't have the answer to cure his inconsistency.
"If I could tell you stuff like that I would be a genius," Hull said.
But even geniuses can figure out that Hull has had poor luck.
He has hit the pipes a number of times in the past 15 games, and he has had an empty-net goal taken away after the final buzzer sounded at Phoenix on Nov. 7. He also had a goal taken away by an inconclusive replay against St. Louis on Nov. 23.
"I'm still unlucky," Hull said. "That's the way my career is going right now -- downhill."
Against Phoenix on Friday, Hull was moved down to a line with rookie Pavel Datsyuk and Boyd Devereaux. He responded with six shots on goal. Associate coach Barry Smith says he expects that line to stay intact.
NOTEBOOK: The Wings have scored three goals in the past three games, dropping them to second in the NHL with 3.30 goals per game. Ottawa has a slight lead with 3.32. . . . Goaltender Dominik Hasek said his new red and white mask needs padding and is almost ready. Hasek hopes to debut the mask next Monday at home against Chicago. . . . Defenseman Jesse Wallin practiced this past weekend for the first time since surgery Nov. 9 on a groin/abdominal tear. He should be able to play by early January. . . . Smith said defenseman Fredrik Olausson was given Sunday off because he was feeling ill. He is expected to play tonight.
TONIGHT: FLAMES
Matchup: Red Wings vs. Calgary, 9, Saddledome.
TV/radio: Channel 50; WXYT-AM (1270), WTKA-AM (1050), CFCO-AM (630).
Injuries: Detroit -- D Uwe Krupp (shoulder), D Jesse Wallin (groin/abdomen), out. Calgary -- G Roman Turek (right knee), D Derek Morris (wrist), questionable; D Brad Werenka (concussion), C Jeff Shantz (knee), C Oleg Saprykin (neck), out.
Overview: Detroit is 1-1 against Calgary this season. Former Wings goalie Mike Vernon might start for the Flames, but that may be bad news. Vernon is winless in his past 13 starts, and hasn't won since Feb. 9. He played well in his last game against the Wings, stopping 34 shots in a 4-2 Flames victory at Calgary on Jan. 21. The Flames are winless in 11 games, and have a five-game winless skid at home.
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Hull down about his low output
MULTIMEDIA
PHOTOS: Follow the season through the lenses of our award-winning Free Press photographers.
AUDIO: Hear what the team has to say after every game.
FAN FORUM: Chat it up at one of the best Red Wings talk sites on the Web.
Single handedly beaten by a goalie, AGAIN.
And by vernon of all goalies to do it.
This is gettin crazy.
And by vernon of all goalies to do it.
This is gettin crazy.
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SEPT 11, 2001. THE DAY THAT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
R.I.P. TO ALL VICTIMS
We are in this together
Crazy is the world!! At least your Flyers pic and Stag's under TB bailed me out some. I gotta thank you fellows for those.
Bailed me out of Big Detroit bet (I did try to talk myself out of...)
Bailed me out of Big Detroit bet (I did try to talk myself out of...)
Tedy, that loss at that price was painful enough without you saying I told you so. I think you have been around here long enough to know that is not appreciated. Please refrain from doing that in the future if at all possible.
Tedy,with all respect..don`t be a smartass,
this is very hard job anyway,so we don`t
need comments like that!
this is very hard job anyway,so we don`t
need comments like that!
