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Trench

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Trench, While I agree with Nader's views on many things, I know that much of what he portrays in his positions, and how he has been able to go from a high priced attorney to a leading political figure is excessively arguable. In some ways, I find Nader more reprehensible than many of the mainstream left or right politicians. He claims to be in the middle, a steward of the people's interests, and he has built an empire on that thought. Truth is, he has taken advantage of the position he has built, and has profited greatly from it. Many of his activities border on illegal, and he benefits from his hit and run public face.

Here is a histrionic website detailing much of what Nader is about. Much of it is probably not true, but much of it certainly is. I just don't think Ralph Nader is who he asks us to believe he is - and in some ways he is more reprehensible than the people he routinely attacks.

The link:
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm
Wow Chad, I couldn't disagree with you more on Nader. Can you think of another person that's saved more American lives in the last 45 years than Ralph Nader? I can't. Without Nader, we wouldn't have had seat belts and air bags in our cars when we we did, the Clean Air Act, the Freedom of Information Act, the EPA, OSHA or the Consumer Protection Agency.

Sorry Chad, but my opinion of what Ralph Nader has done for the average citizen of this country won't be influenced by the spin of some nameless blogger with an obvious political axe to grind.
 
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Duff Miver

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Dream Team. :toast:

However, Nader would be wasted as VP. As John Adams opined about the office...

"My country has contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."
-- John Adams

Nader could serve double-duty as Secretary of State and Secretary of the Treasury. Then we'd see some REAL change in this country my friends.

Or as James Nance Garner put it - "Garner once described the Vice-Presidency as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss."
 

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Dig up TR.

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Sorry about that Tim
 

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Wow Chad, I couldn't disagree with you more on Nader. Can you think of another person that's saved more American lives in the last 45 years than Ralph Nader? I can't. Without Nader, we wouldn't have had seat belts and air bags in our cars when we we did, the Clean Air Act, the Freedom of Information Act, the EPA, OSHA or the Consumer Protection Agency.

Sorry Chad, but my opinion of what Ralph Nader has done for the average citizen of this country won't be influenced by the spin of some nameless blogger with an obvious political axe to grind.

Trench, I agree with you that Nader has done a tremendous amount of good for Americans. I really have no strong feelings about him good or bad. I do admire what he stands for and who he has stood up to. My opinion of him is more positive than negative. I just have read a few things that make me concerned about how he has built his personal worth and organizations, and think at some points has been a bit hypocritical along the way.

So have I, and I haven't built much of an organization, so, there's that... :mj07:
 

Trench

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Trench, I agree with you that Nader has done a tremendous amount of good for Americans. I really have no strong feelings about him good or bad. I do admire what he stands for and who he has stood up to. My opinion of him is more positive than negative. I just have read a few things that make me concerned about how he has built his personal worth and organizations, and think at some points has been a bit hypocritical along the way.

So have I, and I haven't built much of an organization, so, there's that... :mj07:
Thanks Chad. Once again, you've shown why you're the most reasonable poster in this political forum.

As for Nader, I think he's guilty more of single-minded hubris than hypocrisy and I'll go to my grave believing him to be a man of conviction.
 
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