Question about Totals

Tito

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When I checked my account tonight there seemed to be too much in there. I noticed that my wager on Atlanta on the Over 8 1/2 was refunded. I checked the rules and found out it was because of a pitching change after I made my wager. I can't remember ever having a total wager refunded because of this situation, or I never had a total wager where a pitching change occured after the wager was placed. Is this common with other books? Not complaining because I would have lost the wager. Just wondering..........

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RAZ

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Yes, most sportsbooks and locals require that
both named starters go in order for a total
play or a runline play to be valid. As you just experienced, if one does not go, no play.
 

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I guess I never ran into this situation before. As it turned out saved me a few $$.

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Tito, You might want to cut and paste these rules for reference. I got these yesterday after the discusion of "action" price adjustments and filed them. To my knowledge all offshore and Nevada books all use these same rules. They are pretty simple and will easily fit on one page of paper. NCU

BASEBALL WAGERING RULES........

WINNERS AND LOSERS ARE OFFICIAL AFTER 5 INNINGS OF PLAY UNLESS THE HOME TEAM IS LEADING AFTER 4? INNINGS. IF A GAME IS CALLED, OR SUSPENDED, THE WINNER IS DETERMINED BY THE SCORE AFTER THE LAST FULL INNING (UNLESS THE HOME TEAM SCORES TO TIE, OR TAKES THE LEAD IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE INNING, IN WHICH CASE THE WINNER IS DETERMINED BY THE SCORE AT THE TIME THE GAME IS CALLED.) MONIES WILL BE REFUNDED IF THE HOME TEAM TIES THE GAME AND IT IS THEN SUSPENDED. EVENTS WILL NOT CARRY OVER TO THE FOLLOWING DAY (UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED).

CASINO'S DO NOT RECOGNIZE SUSPENDED GAMES, PROTEST, OVERTURNED DECISIONS, ETC, FOR WAGERING PURPOSES, AND ALL WAGERS MUST GO THE DAY WRITTEN, OTHERWISE THERE IS NO ACTION AND ALL MONIES ARE REFUNDED

SPECIAL BASEBALL RULES:
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A)WHEN WAGERING ON TOTAL RUNS (OVER/UNDER) THE GAME MUST GO 9 INNINGS (8? IF THE HOME TEAM IS AHEAD) TO HAVE ACTION. IF A GAME IS CALLED, OR SUSPENDED, THE SCORE WILL BE DETERMINED AFTER THE LAST FULL INNING (UNLESS THE HOME TEAM SCORE TO TIE, OR TAKES THE LEAD IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE INNING, IN WHICH CASE THE SCORE IS DETERMINED AT THE TIME THE GAME IS CALLED). RULES FOR THE RUN LINE WAGERS ARE THE SAME AS THOSE FOR BASEBALL TOTALS. WAGERS ON TOTAL RUNS WILL BE REFUNDED IF A PITCHER CHANGE OCCURS PRIOR TO BOTH LISTED PITCHERS THROWING AT LEAST ONE PITCH. IF A GAME GOES PAST NINE FULL INNINGS AND IS NOT COMPLETED (I.E. SUSPENDED, CURFEW, RAIN DELAY, ETC) THERE WILL BE NO ACTION ON TOTAL AND RUN LINE WAGERS.

B)BASEBALL WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:

1) ACTION - TEAM AGAINST TEAM, REGARDLESS OF THE STARTING PITCHER.

2) ONE SPECIFIED PITCHER - THIS IS A WAGER ON OR AGAINST ONE SPECIFIED PITCHER, REGARDLESS OF THE OTHER STARTING PITCHER.

3) BOTH SPECIFIED PITCHERS - IF STARTING PITCHERS ARE NOT EXACTLY AS LISTED ON WAGERING DISPLAY BOARD, AND/OR YOUR TICKET, YOUR WAGER WILL BE DEEMED "NO ACTION".

NOTE: IN THE EVENT THERE IS A PITCHING CHANGE PRIOR TO THE GAME, MONEY ODDS MAY BE ADJUSTED. IF ONE SCHEDULED PITCHER STARTS AGAINST AN UNSCHEDULED PITCHER, "ACTION" WAGERS WILL BE COMPUTED BY THE OPENING PRICE WITH THE NEW PITCHER.

A PITCHER IS DEEMED A STARTING PITCHER AFTER THROWING ONE PITCH.



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Tito

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Thanks NCU.

It's funny how you engage in this "hobby" over a number of years and think you don't need to read the rules. Been doing "offshore" now for about 6 years and have never had this situation. Go to the Adult Disyland (Vegas) 2-3 times a year and have never run into this. Need to spend a few min. reading all the rules

Thanks


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