Questions for OU fans?

[Master Capper]

Scott,

why evade questions that you dont like to answer because of the truth? Whom outside of Va Tech and Cal did USC play that would be regarded as upper echelon team? Whom did Okie and Aub play that would be considered upper echelon teams?



On the Pac 10 - The league could be the most balanced it has been in years from 2-10. However, performances in last year bowl games aside, this is still a conference that is still rebuilding a bit compared to the SEC, the new ACC, and to a lesser extent, the Big 10 and Big XII. With that said, the league can make some big noise early if Oregon can come up with a good showing at Oklahoma, Washington State can throttle a wounded Colorado team, Oregon State hangs with LSU and Arizona State if can beat Iowa. If USC can get tripped up again in Pac 10 play by someone, this will be the most interesting of all the BCS conference races

 

[Sun Tzu]

MC,

I found it odd how he didnt even bother responding after I proved to him that there wasnt some anti-Cal giant conspiracy. Also he doesnt seem to want to address that his vaunted Sagarin says Texas ahead of Cal. I guess for some objectivity is a hurdle.

 

[Scott4USC]

Also he doesnt seem to want to address that his vaunted Sagarin says Texas ahead of Cal. I guess for some objectivity is a hurdle.

First, where did I say Sagarin is perfect and is the absolute decider? In my opinion, Sagarin is the best computer poll to use. I explained why I feel this way.

Sagarin has CAL #3 and Texas #6. He has CAL playing #16 SOS and UT #19 SOS. Both are very close in his calculation. IMO, CAL is a better team than Texas and Sagarin agrees with me with his analysis.

Sagarin elo-chess has Texas ahead of CAL slightly. That is what he uses for BCS but the elo-chess does not factor in margin of victory. That is why Sagarin has to use the elo-chess for the BCS because they took out margin of victory. I am a believer in margin of victory and I use Sagarin's "complete" calculations. Sagarin also agrees his elo-chess is not as valid as his regular calculations are which factor in margin of victory.

Would you rather factor in margin of victory or not? Think about it.

Master Capper

Scott, why evade questions that you dont like to answer because of the truth?

I never intentionally evade questions. Sorry if I did not answer this question previously if you indeed asked me to answer it.

Whom outside of Va Tech and Cal did USC play that would be regarded as upper echelon team?

NOBODY!

Whom did Okie and Aub play that would be considered upper echelon teams?

OU------->Texas.

Auburn I would say maybe a 2 loss Georgia. Georgia is super talented but I don't think they are a great team. I don't think anybody has been overly impressed with UGA this year. LSU has looked impressive in the 2h of the year but they don't have any great wins and have 2 losses. PLUS LSU has a couple wins at home they should have or could easily have lost iN OOC play (could argue "luck" played a role in the OSU game. That does not fit the criteria of an echelon team.

You did ask who the teams played would be considered echelon teams.

 

[SALTY DOG]

GOD, please let someone from the USC Rubbers
win the Heismen....I will load up on the SOONERS
so big it will even make YOUR head spin... :moon:

 

[Sun Tzu]

Lmao Sagarin's BCS ranking has Texas 4 and Cal 5. You are lookign at the hybrid which is most useless of all, and gets jacked up because to him beating Washington State or any other team by a zillion is meaninful. It is also well known Sagarin's almost Seattle Times like PAc 10 bias. EVERY other computer ranking of any kind has Texas ahead of Cal - several have Boise, LVille, and others ahead of Cal as well. EVERY BCS computer poll, which only counter 1/3, had Texas 4. One of the human polss had texas 6 - yet Texas is in the BCS. That tells you how little the computers think of Cal.

 

[dr. freeze]

ScottUSC: "I am a big believer in margin of victory"

ScottUSC: "I agree Stoops is classless. Glad Pete Carroll does not run up the score"

 

[Master Capper]

Sun Tzu is correct on the fact that Sagarin is a very biased poll towards the Pac 10 and it is also one of the worst sites to handicap college sports. How any poll could have four PAC 10 teams is the top 25 is outrageous and creates credibility problems for the poll. Anyone whom has watched this season would almost have to agree that Oreg State and ASU are not top 15 teams. Even in his basketball rankings Sagarin is quite off the all as he has had Wis Mil and Kent rated ahead ahead of Wake, UNC and Duke thus basically he is implying that on a neutral court Kent ow Wis Mil would be giving these teams points, do you believe any book would make these two teams favorites? If so, please tell me the books name as I would love to unload on the dogs.

 

[Scott4USC]

ScottUSC: "I am a big believer in margin of victory"

ScottUSC: "I agree Stoops is classless. Glad Pete Carroll does not run up the score"

:142lmao:

I believe in margin if victory being calculated (BCS does not). I also don't believe in running up the score. I agree with Lee Corso when he brought up margin of victory being capped at 21pts. I think that is a good idea.

Master Capper

I would love to here an explantion why you feel Sagarin is BIASED?

Maybe the Pac 10 is ranked so high because they play a tough OOC schedule. Maybe because they are not afraid to travel? Maybe the Pac 10 conf. schedule is not the toughest, but the OOC is. When making calculations, YOU CAN'T just focus on conf. play, you need to focus on the whole schedule, where games were played, etc. The SEC was exposed this year and makes me happy because it makes it proved all my arguments over the off-season to be true. Most hear disagreed and yet what I said came true.

People here still don't realize how the SEC does things. They play $hit OOC, rack up wins, become bowl eligible, get teams ranked. Then in conf. play, you can say, hey we beat a 6-1 """""" team who was ranked in the top 15!!!! When you look deeper, that 6-1 team has 3-4 wins against crap OOC opponents.