Rate your top presidents since wwii

SixFive

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Rate your top presidents since the end of WWII. 1 is the best, and 15 is the worst. Trump gets two votes for his two non-consecutive terms.

1) Reagan
2) Ike
3) Truman
4) Obama
5) JFK
6) Ford
7) Bush HW
8) W
9) Trump (1)
10) Clinton
11) LBJ
12) Carter
13) Nixon
14) Trump (2)
15) Biden

Those are mine for now.

**Note. I don’t include Jan 6th in Trump’s first term (even though it was). Otherwise he would be lower.**
 
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Skulnik

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January 6 was a PSYOP ran by the Deep State and the Democrat party, look no further than the Trump speech being EDITED to make it look like nothing he said, a page out of the Charlotteville speech.

You could also ask Ray Epps to tell the TRUTH.
 

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January 6 was a PSYOP ran by the Deep State and the Democrat party, look no further than the Trump speech being EDITED to make it look like nothing he said, a page out of the Charlotteville speech.

You could also ask Ray Epps to tell the TRUTH.

Go to the freeway, and step infront of an 18 wheeler. The world would be a far better place.
 

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Truman
Obama
Eisenhower
LBJ
Clinton
JFK
Biden
Reagan
HW Bush
Carter
Ford
W Bush
Nixon
Trump 1
Trump 2
I like your list. Although I would put Clinton higher. Not only did he balance the budget, I had my best years in business.
 

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JFK (Ok, some of this is aspirational, as we'll never know what he could have accomplished. But his leadership during the Cuban Missile Crisis is unparalleled.
Truman
Clinton (I still love this line... “Bill Clinton was a pretty good president for a Republican.”)
Obama
LBJ
Eisenhower
Biden
Nixon (would be higher on the list if not for, well, you know.)
Reagan
HW Bush
Carter
Ford
W Bush






Trump 1
Trump 2
 
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Sure, that was Biden, he's a multitasker, Shits his pants and signs bills in to law.

Can't wait for Stevie Wonder to confirm with his AI machine.


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So your response is that it wasn't actually Biden. Cool.

BTW: Trump promised my energy bills would be cut in half by now. They are much higher. He promised my grocery bills would be lower, but they are getting higher. Trump promised no more wars and then he started a war with Iran. He promised jobs but companies are laying off workers left and right. He's a complete failure that will be ranked as one of the worst presidents in US history and you have him at #1. You're a complete meatball that makes Raymond look smart.
 
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So your response is that it wasn't actually Biden. Cool.

BTW: Trump promised my energy bills would be cut in half by now. They are much higher. He promised my grocery bills would be lower, but they are getting higher. Trump promised no more wars and then he started a war with Iran. He promised jobs but companies are laying off workers left and right. He's a complete failure that will be ranked as one of the worst presidents in US history and you have him at #1. You're a complete meatball that makes Raymond look smart.
I agree with this, but I think I can say this bc I would say you are a friend and I like you as a person; I think you’re as bad at partisanship as skulnik and ageecee if you don’t think Biden was a patently senile and incompetent boob and an embarrassment to our great country, and I think you’re better than that. Maybe you do think that but feel the accomplishments made during his term overshadow it? Very puzzling to me.
 

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I agree with this, but I think I can say this bc I would say you are a friend and I like you as a person; I think you’re as bad at partisanship as skulnik and ageecee if you don’t think Biden was a patently senile and incompetent boob and an embarrassment to our great country, and I think you’re better than that. Maybe you do think that but feel the accomplishments made during his term overshadow it? Very puzzling to me.
Biden suffered from the same thing many old people end up suffering from. (Including Trump) The fact that we don't have a maximum age limit to work in DC is a crime in itself. It was sinful to prop him up as long as the Democrats did. Then, when they finally did usher him out, Republicans had a FIT!

At any rate, I find the cheerleading crew for Trump here as disingenuous as anyone who denies Biden has issues. They can find every little flaw Biden ever had, but completely deny Trump's.

But, if you want to call Biden an incompetent boob and an embarrassment to the country, and don't point that same lens at Trump, THAT'S embarrassing.
 

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Surprised to see such high Biden ratings. I can’t understand that at all.
As Gary mentioned, the CHIPS Act and the Infrastructure Act were big for the future of this country. The Inflation Reduction Act was pretty good, too, despite it's bad name. And he got those through a very divided Congress.

He also had the HUGE task of trying to repair our standing in the world after the previous administration. He tried to reassure the world that America wasn't abandoning them. That, as a whole, we actually DO understand the very real dangers of climate change. Etc, etc, etc. He had a giant mess to clean up and, effectively, only 2 years to do it. Under the circumstances, he actually did a pretty solid job. Well, he and/or his support staff. But they were getting things back on the right track.

Yup, the wheels really came off at the end. But he knew how important it was to keep trump from getting back into the White House and that he was the only one who'd proven he could do it. Which is why he stubbornly clung to the notion that he could/had to do it again.

Depending on where you get your news, you may believe Joe Biden spent 4 years at the border, handing out Applebees gift cards to every immigrant. But he did a decent job during a shitty time in this country.
 
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