Red Sox to win WORLD SERIES BET???

[Scott4USC]

Hi, a month ago, I wagered $1000 to win $6500 on the Red Sox winning the World Series at betwwts

Currently, especially at most sportsbooks, Red Sox are now +300 to win World Series.

I have recently tripled my account, so I have ton of $$$ available. I know another book that has Red Sox +500. I am thinking about betting another $1000 to win $5000 on Red Sox.

What are all your opinions on this. I can afford to to lose $2000, but of course do not want too. I like the moves the team made in the off season and last year they were extra innings away from going to the world series.

I also think I have a lot of room to hedge my bet in the playoffs. Do you think there is strong chance Red Sox won't make the playoffs? Basically, this is the only way I lose 2k. I easily could hedge once in playoffs if I wanted too. I am a big baseball fan, but not really an expert. So i would like to hear other peoples opinions on this. Thanks.

 

[hogman14]

Hey Scott,

13-2 was the price I was looking for...VIP had it at 2-1 at one point, around the time the Manny for Arod trade was supposed to go down. 4-1 now, and I guess I'd only expect it to go up. A lot of these guys had career years last year, and I think there are a lot of questions to be answered still....

1. Pitching. Will Schilling stay healthy? How will Pedro react to maybe being the #2? Schilling/Pedro 1/2, Lowe 3, Wakefield 4...5...?

2. Nomar. After the Manny for Arod deal happened.....well, Nomar was supposed to be traded to Chi for Magglio Ordonez. Nomar catches wind of this, and calls the local talk radio station, and how they never addressed this with him, and tells them how much he would like to play for Boston. Really strange if you ask me. Anyways, they're gonna either have to sign him before the season starts, or end up trading him midseason, to get something for him, as his contract expires after this year.

3. Manny. Manny has evidently made it known that he wants to play for the NY Yankees, and the Sox gave them the chance by placing him on irrevocable waivers after the season ended. No one bit on his monster contract...Ramirez is less of a problem than the other 2, IMO, as he is praised by many as being one of the best teammates around.

4. Yankees. This one goes without saying

So, IMO, take the USC winnings and save it...Too many intangibles...I guess this is cliche, but I don't trust 'em!

Unrelated story, they put out the "Cowboy Up!" DVD: "The wild and wacky ride of the 2003 Red Sox." So, let me get this straight. They don't even make it to the world series, and they want me to buy the DVD? Although, if they do win the WS, Boston, as you know it, will be destroyed. This place will be turned upside down. Cowboy up!

 

[british bulldog]

I like the trades they made in off season but the one question that needs to be answered and no one will be able to answer until it happens is how many games will Schilling and Pedro not start?

They are already scratching around for a fifth starter as I don't think that Kim will last and if they lose their main two starters, then it drag two from the bullpen or only one and play with a four man rotation.

I pondered over supporting Boston once the trade for Schilling was made but I have a nagging doubt in the back of my head that says they don't win 100 games this regular season. If that is the case, then the only team to come out of the East will be the Yankees, who by the way have a better starting five than last year on paper. If Brown stays healthy he will be as strong as Pettitte was last season and that was an above average year for Pettitte. Karsay will add strength to the bullpen that the bronx bombers didn't have last year. Contrerass will be filthy as long as ge goes the distance and don't forget, they still have one of the top closers.

 

[bjfinste]

I was going to post a big write-up on this, but I lost it somehow, so I'm just going to sum up the main points.

-You first have to look at the AL West. Seattle should be as good, and the A's still have the Big 3. The Angels shouldn't be anything special and Texas continues to spiral. How does this affect you? Well, there's a good chance both of these teams will have very good records, meaning for Boston to make the playoffs they may have to beat out the Yanks to win the East.

Now, with the unbalanced schedule, teams play their divisional opponents much more than other teams. There is no question that the Yanks will be a force to be reckoned with. Their biggest weakness is probably that they have no lefty starters this season; something Boston can't exploit as much as other teams because they're best hitters come from the right side of the plate. Baltimore has decent pitching, and with the offseason signings, has without question bolstered its lineup. Throw in Toronto which was strong last year and has done nothing to get weaker and a growing Tampa team that should continue to grow under Pinella, and you have a much more difficult division schedule for Boston this year than last year.

-Boston's pitching should be stronger, but both Pedro and Schilling have had injury issues recently. Their health is a major key to Boston's success.

The bottom line to me is that I just don't think the future bet is worth it, especially since you already have a grand on it. Hope this helps.

 

[RexBudler]

im putting my money on the halos
good luck

 

[bjfinste]

Right after I say the Angels won't be anything special they go and sign one of the best players in the game. I guess the AL West just got a little tougher!

 

[Sun Tzu]

Maybe I am just cheap, but I do real well financially and for the life of me I cant understand anyone putting real money on future bets, much less one that is 10 months away. As if any of us know if our book will even be around then, who will get hur tor traded, etc.

Plus, to do it on that team makes no sense. You want to triple your original bet with the odds cut in half? On a team that had the best offensive year in the history of baseball and didnt even make it to the WS? Because they picked up a guy who is nearly 40 and missed half the year last year, and a bullpen that still is quite shaky? I see no value there at all. As others posted, I actaully think it is much more likely Bosox dont even make the playoffs. As much as I hate the Yankees they will be in WS again. I wish I could say the As but geez now they have no one who can hit. The Halos could be tough, but I am sur ethat line has plummetted. In the NL I like the Cubs like the rest of the world, but again no value.

 

[Scott4USC]

Well I bet $1000 to win $6500 on Red Sox winning world series at betwwts

I also bet basically $1050 to win $20,000 on the Angels. I got 22-1 and 17-1 odds at 5dimes.

You are so right it not only is risk about injuries but also the sportsbook. Betwwts and 5dimes are both suppose to be financially secure and both rated tops in the industry. So if these 2 sportsbooks goes under, then every sportsbook is in trouble. Many people gave high ratings to both so I am not too worried.

Red Sox return a deadly lineup with deadly starting pitching. I got them at 6.5 - 1 and now the odds are 3-1 at most sportsbooks. I got real value and i can easily hedge it if sox go to playoffs.

I also have Angels at 22-1 and 17-1 and now the line is 10-1 at most sportsbooks. I got real good value once again. Angels have the best starting and relief pitching in baseball. If you look at all 10 pitchers. Angels have top 3 lineups in baseball. At 22-1 and 17-1, that is a STEAL!

Now if both angels and red sox both make playoffs, I will be in heaven. I basically only have to worry about the Yankees but i could prob. bet $2,000 to win 3-4k on yanks to win world series. So then I have 3 teams to win world series and all 3 are in playoffs. Also, Kevin Brown was not good move by Yanks. VERY HIGH PROBABILITY HE GETS INJURED IN THE YEAR! Great pitcher but injury prone. If Shilling returns healthy, then Red Sox have the most dominating pitching staff in the major leagues. I love my future bets in MLB.

I almost bet Cubs to win world series at 10-1 but decided not too. I also have a guy feeling this will be the year Red Sox win the world series. Just a good gut feeling.

 

[Blackman]

Angels 22-1 is a real nice line - but you're nuts if you think they have the best starting pitching in baseball.....they aren't the best starting staff in their own division, and not close to the top 5 in the league. Also have to be careful, I heard that since they picked up that 70 million for Vlad they will dump either Washburn or Percieval. This team could shape up to be much like the Red Sox last year in my opinion - going to rip the cover off the ball but could get in a lot of trouble if their starters can't go into the late innings.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Scott4USC]

I read they might trade Ortiz or Washburn. More likely Ortiz because Washburn is their only starting lefty.

Compare the 10 pitchers on the Angels staff, starting and relief combined to any team in MLB. I think the Angels are #1 (at the very least top 5). Now compare the Angels starting lineup to any team in MLB. I think the Angels easily have one of the top 4 lineups in baseball.

So basically I think Angels have top 5 pitching and top 5 hitting in MLB and i got them about 22-1 and 17-1. NOT BAD. Will be interesting way things play out. Hopefully no injuries.

 

[Blackman]

Agree with you - 22-1 and 17-1 is a very nice price for this squad.....my only concern with them is that division is stacked, the A's pitching is enough to keep them in the playoff hunt and Seattle is always solid. Going to be very interesting in the AL this year when it comes to the wild card. The second place teams in the East and the West could easily hit 94 wins - and one of them won't be in the playoffs.

Have to say, at the price you got them - Sox and Angels in the playoffs could happen, and will be lucrative if they do.

 

[Scott4USC]

Your right, winning the west will be tough, especially if injuries happen which is not out of the question of happening. Mariners and A's are tough, very tough. Red Sox and Yanks are battling it out as well.

What i am fearful is the Angels and Sox both playing for the wildcard. Now that would suck. No lock what so ever each team winning their division. Angels most likely will, but less confident about the Sox. For the sox, injuries to pedro or shilling will hurt a lot. Although last year they did well without adding shilling. That is why i laid the bundle on Sox because I am big Shilling fan.

 

[RexBudler]

GOOD LUCK SCOTT...hope ya hit that Angels play....I threw some down myself.....Im already looking forward to spring training good luck

 

[JT]

Anything short of a blood sacrifice of a live Yankee would work for the 'Sox.

 

[Scott4USC]

GO RED SOX!!!!!!!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[maverick2112]

Scott.......I am in the same position............Are you going to hedge anything???????

 

[Scott4USC]

maverick2112

I had 2 future wagers, $2000 to win $30,000 on the Angels and $1000 to win $6,500 on Red Sox. I did wager $2,000 on Red Sox to beat Angels in that series, so I got my Angels money back. I did not hedge anything during the Yankees series (although I prob. should have) so I got LUCKY!

I hate hedging and I am NOT going to hedge this series. I think SOX will win it. I may think about hedging if Sox can win tonight and I can get real good odds on Cardinals winning the series after being down 0-1.

I think Sox had it MUCH tougher to get into WS. Angels were one of the hottest teams in the MLB and Yankees were one of the best teams. They are proven. Are the Cardinals? I was not so impresed by the Cardinals in the playoffs as I was with the Sox.

GO BOSTON RED SOX!!!!!!!!!!

 

[maverick2112]

You know what you dont hear anyone talking about is the Angels.......they were a very dangerous team and the Sox dispatched on them in 3.........as hot as Vlad was is as hot as anyone they are going to face........and remember Boston's pitching did a great job on him in his own park............


Thats how I feel...........I say why hedge when I think I have the winner.............In fact I think I am going to take some of my winnings and place a future on USC to win the NC..........I dont see anyone that can beat them............

 

[Scott4USC]

maverick2112

I agree with you about the Angels. I thought Angels easily could have made it to the WS plus they seem to have the Yankees number. I was pissed the Angels met with Sox in 1st round since I had both teams. I will be laying another big bet on Angels to win WS again next year. I also agree with you about hedging. If you think you have a winner, keep it. It may not be the smart move but its called gambling. Only smart hedge I made was when I had Lakers to win NBA finals and that was to get my money back I took Pistons to win it in 5 or 6.

I agree with you about taking USC to win NC. They currently have played the #3 SOS and passed the test and it is fairly easy here on out. Although they end the season with back 2 back rival games. I have USC to win the NC for around $1500 to win around 12k. Amazing bet that looks better and better each week. Took advantage of bad line at PINNY and they honored the bet.

I think USC is now +175 to win NC. You easily could middle or hedge if/when USC makes it to the Orange Bowl. Plus USC gets better and better each and every game so USC will be rolling at the end of the year. That is why Carroll and Chow are so great.

GL to us maverick2112 with the SOX!!!! Lets win game 1!

 

[maverick2112]

Scott........Thanks for the confidence on the BoSox..........there sure was a lot of good cappers on the Cards for the series and in gm 1 so I was going to hedge some.........after reading your posts I decided to let it ride.........lets bring this baby home..........

What a difference a week makes.......there I was last saturday night wondering how it all went so wrong so fast..........BoSox not omly lose game 3 but get crushed in the process 19-8.........fast forward 1 week later and now the Sox are in the WS with a one game lead with Schilling pitching tomorrow night..........I swear to god Nolan should write a book about this last week........it would make a movie no one would believe