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Whats the odds Reid goes same route as Daschle on his next term?

Is he the most whimpy anti military--terrorist motivator or what.

Democratic leaders on Thursday warned the Iraqi government was locked in a stalemate, as they jockeyed for position ahead of another Senate showdown over Iraq war funding.
They also threatened Republicans with a rare weekend vote, after the start of the scheduled break for the Thanksgiving holiday, on a bill including troop withdrawal dates which cleared the House of Representatives Wednesday.

"Every place you go you hear about no progress being made in Iraq," said Senate Democratic majority leader Harry Reid.

"The government is stalemated today, as it was six months ago, as it was two years ago," Reid told reporters, warning US soldiers were caught in the middle of a civil war.

"It is not getting better, it is getting worse," he said.


Democrats are using perceived lack of reconciliation and political development by the Iraqi government to refute claims by Republicans that President George W. Bush's troop surge strategy has yielded concrete results.

The Senate was expected to start work on the 50 billion dollar emergency war funding bill by Friday, though the measure is considered dead on arrival due to Republican opposition.

President George W. Bush, who has repeatedly outmuscled Democrats attempting to tie his hands on the war, has threatened to veto the measure in the unlikely event it reaches his desk.

The emergency budget provides only four months of funding for the war, and only a 50 billion dollar chunk of the 196 billion dollars requested by Bush.

It calls for troop withdrawals to begin within 30 days and sets a goal of December 15, 2008, for the pullback of most combat troops to be completed, and outlaws the use of torture by US government agencies.

Should the bill, as expected, fail to pass, Democrats say they will not give Bush any more money this year for the war. That would force the Pentagon to dip into its regular budget to pay for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The days are over when the money is sent no questions asked,, when the money is sent without a price," Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer said.
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Only thing I can think of his resources are confined to Moveon-Dailey Kos-Media Matters.

along the same lines--Nice to see their liberal brothers--Hollywood--anti troop movies bombing one after another--but I'm sure they will get rave reviews in terrorist countries.

Not surprising that all stateside terrorist motivators all have one thing in common.
 

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dtb...

i don't like reid much either...i find him as whimpy as i found daschle....& i wouldn't mind seeing him leave wash.....but no more than some of the others, including bush & his crew...it's time for a change across the board...
 

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It's a cinch GW and crew won't be around--
I just wish Dems could find leaders that had some balls wouldn't pander to the radical left.

I'm sure FDR and JFK would roll over in their graves if they knew their party was taken over by radicals--and that the time had come where success of our troops would be detrimental to their party. Absolutely mindboggeling.
 

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It's a cinch GW and crew won't be around--
I just wish Dems could find leaders that had some balls wouldn't pander to the radical left.

I'm sure FDR and JFK would roll over in their graves if they knew their party was taken over by radicals--and that the time had come where success of our troops would be detrimental to their party. Absolutely mindboggeling.

dtb...

i agree....

the democratic party in the days of fdr,truman, & jfk was much different than they are now...unfortunately...
 

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The Republican Party ain't what it once was either. I mean they were never for the working man but this group has declared war on them. We have no leaders on either side worth voting for. We don't know how deep the Neo-Cons have infiltrated the DEMs but I bet they are in there pretty deep. Country might be on the verge of Revolution in a few more years if this keeps up.
 

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The Republican Party ain't what it once was either. I mean they were never for the working man but this group has declared war on them. We have no leaders on either side worth voting for. We don't know how deep the Neo-Cons have infiltrated the DEMs but I bet they are in there pretty deep. Country might be on the verge of Revolution in a few more years if this keeps up.

stevie...

1st it's good to see you posting again...haven't seen you around...hope things are well with you & your family....

i don't know about the republicans changing much....i think you're old enough to remember when goldwater ran in 1964 against johnson & lbj portrayed him as a nut who was a big war hawk. goldwater got destroyed in that election.imo he was ni different than what the neocons are now.
 

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goldwater got destroyed in that election.imo he was ni different than what the neocons are now.

Goldwater did not give in to religious groups or try to go after personal freedoms the way the neocons do. He himself said in the 80's that he did not consider himself part of the new conservatives. He was a decent conservative who made a very bad decision of going against the Civil Rights Act. ...But he was NOTHING like Bush, Frist, and the other neocons. If anything, he was a Libertarian.
 

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The Republican Party ain't what it once was either. I mean they were never for the working man but this group has declared war on them. We have no leaders on either side worth voting for. We don't know how deep the Neo-Cons have infiltrated the DEMs but I bet they are in there pretty deep. Country might be on the verge of Revolution in a few more years if this keeps up.

You think the Code Pinkies will actual mix it up with the Vets--don't taze me bro--ow ow -ow. :)

on a more serious note--if you see any movement in next decade my money is it will be by muslim converts out of prison system--and it won't be pretty.

--and glad to see you back also Stevie and got question for you since your from Mass--Could you explain this to us.

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. ? The city that's home to Harvard and MIT solidified its nickname as "The People's Republic of Cambridge" when it put a stop to a Boy Scout troop's Election Day drive to collect care packages for American soldiers in Iraq, claiming it was "political."
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since your from Mass--Could you explain this to us.

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. ? The city that's home to Harvard and MIT solidified its nickname as "The People's Republic of Cambridge" when it put a stop to a Boy Scout troop's Election Day drive to collect care packages for American soldiers in Iraq, claiming it was "political."
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I can't explain that one. No one really can and the Pols aren't talking. It is a disgrace plain and simple.

On Goldwater...very interesting. Johnson actually ran as the "Peace Candidate." If you remember Goldwater was going to escalate the war. Johnson got in and then did just what Goldwater said HE was going to do. Not much different from the Bush and the Dems now.
 
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