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How come "the ground can't cause a fumble" if you are a runner, but you have to "survive the ground" as a receiver?
 

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How come "the ground can't cause a fumble" if you are a runner, but you have to "survive the ground" as a receiver?

My thoughts, having seen that USC play, if a player catches ball, has possession and knee hits ground, while in possession, it's a catch, period, unless replay shows ball bounced off turf 1st. IMO the USC player did all of this...it was a catch.

It's fucked up, I have posted here before bitching about it as it is so subjective.

Just my opinion....
 

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Possession is nine-tenths of the law is an expression meaning that ownership is easier to maintain if one has possession of something, or difficult to enforce if one does not. ... The rightful owner shall have their possession returned to them; if taken or used

:shrug: all I got for that
 

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As a runner you have already established control of the ball and are in clear possession, therefore the ground can't cause a fumble and you are down.
As a receiver you have to establish control of the ball first. They wrote into the rule that when trying to establish control and going to the ground you must maintain control throughout the process ie through the ground.

That's my take of the rules.
 

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As a runner you have already established control of the ball and are in clear possession, therefore the ground can't cause a fumble and you are down.
As a receiver you have to establish control of the ball first. They wrote into the rule that when trying to establish control and going to the ground you must maintain control throughout the process ie through the ground.

That's my take of the rules.

Agree with u, he made catch, made play (ran with possession ), got tackled, brought to ground, knee down, ball then stripped after knee hit ground, not ball hitting turf. Then player stripped ball...I am not sure what part of this means it is not a catch.

No dog in the fight here other than a general disdain for the way this rule is enforced/not enforced.
 

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Agree with u, he made catch, made play (ran with possession ), got tackled, brought to ground, knee down, ball then stripped after knee hit ground, not ball hitting turf. Then player stripped ball...I am not sure what part of this means it is not a catch.

No dog in the fight here other than a general disdain for the way this rule is enforced/not enforced.

Agree, i thought USC guy caught the ball, then had it taken away but his knee was already down. Bang bang play and you never know how they are going to call it which sucks.
 

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How come "the ground can't cause a fumble" if you are a runner, but you have to "survive the ground" as a receiver?

That is a catch in NCAA. These old insurance salesman have been watching too much NFL on Sunday. In the NFL you have to cradle the ball all the way back to sideline w/you, like a baby- but that is the rule there.. USC player caught,controlled ball all the way to ground and had it stripped after his ass bounced twice. Yes, I took USC
 
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