Robert Smith is an idiot concerning Boise St....

[maverick2112]

He says the reason Boise St( a other smaller schools) went for 2 is because they were tired and couldnt last in a 3 week playoff vs the bigger schools ..............

Listen Robert............you dumbass..........if you watched the same game last night I did..........Boise St pushed the big bad Okies all over the field.........if anything OK couldnt run the ball effectively all night.........

and for the 2 pt conversion.........if the reason was cause they were tired then why dont you try to tell me why Oregon State went for 2 at the end of the game vs Missouri?????

Hell they didnt even wait until OT to do it.......

 

[Morris]

They didn't look tired to me. They were having a blast. Better prepared team won last nite. Sounds like he had OK. :mj07:

 

[rusty]

the wac.

the wac.

lets face it the wac is a good conf.
how they fare i this years bowls?

pretty good!!!

 

[ET4646]

No, No, No, if they don't play in the SEC they are garbage:mj07:

 

[gjn23]

his opinion is somwhat valid on these "smaller" schools if they played a bcs conf schedule

their lack of size, depth, athletcism wouldn't necessarily show on one night, on national tv on jan 1 vs oklahoma,........but over a 3 month stretch in a bcs conf do you really think they go undefeated?

i say they have at least 2 losses in any of those conf.......traveling and playing top tier teams with equal to or superior talent would catch up to them as would depth

this doesnt diminish anything boise accomplished this year as they beat everyone on their schedule and played an amazing game last night.

 

[blgstocks]

his opinion is somwhat valid on these "smaller" schools if they played a bcs conf schedule

their lack of size, depth, athletcism wouldn't necessarily show on one night, on national tv on jan 1 vs oklahoma,........but over a 3 month stretch in a bcs conf do you really think they go undefeated?

i say they have at least 2 losses in any of those conf.......traveling and playing top tier teams with equal to or superior talent would catch up to them as would depth

this doesnt diminish anything boise accomplished this year as they beat everyone on their schedule and played an amazing game last night.

agree with everything you said

They just don't have the depth to compete against big schools week in and week out throughout a season.

Louisville went for two because they probably couldn't have lasted another OT with Oklahoma. I dont think anybody in here thinks Boise could keep Oklahoma out of the endzone on a short field in OT. Okla gives it to AP and hes in after a play. Boise has to pull every trick out of their hat to get in there. Boise was gambling all game long and it is the theory of loading it all up on a spin of the wheel, because the longer you gamblle (odds not in your favor) the more likely you will lose. I think it was a great play going for 2, they went for it because their chances of winning go down after every OT.

 

[maverick2112]

his opinion is somwhat valid on these "smaller" schools if they played a bcs conf schedule

their lack of size, depth, athletcism wouldn't necessarily show on one night, on national tv on jan 1 vs oklahoma,........but over a 3 month stretch in a bcs conf do you really think they go undefeated?

i say they have at least 2 losses in any of those conf.......traveling and playing top tier teams with equal to or superior talent would catch up to them as would depth

this doesnt diminish anything boise accomplished this year as they beat everyone on their schedule and played an amazing game last night.

No one ever said about going undefeated in say the Big 12......but you are watching a different brand of football if you dont think Boise would have been fighting for a conference title in the Big 12 this year......they could easily compete week in and week out vs the like of CU, Missouri and such.......and they would easily give Neb, Texas and OU again a run for their money.......

They gave OU a lot better game that what Neb did in the Big 12 championship game..........

I guess I was very impressed with Boise State speed and size vs OU.........

I think alot of people thought OU would push the Broncos all over the field but the opposite happened in my eyes.........

 

[maverick2112]

agree with everything you said

They just don't have the depth to compete against big schools week in and week out throughout a season.

Louisville went for two because they probably couldn't have lasted another OT with Oklahoma. I dont think anybody in here thinks Boise could keep Oklahoma out of the endzone on a short field in OT. Okla gives it to AP and hes in after a play. Boise has to pull every trick out of their hat to get in there. Boise was gambling all game long and it is the theory of loading it all up on a spin of the wheel, because the longer you gamblle (odds not in your favor) the more likely you will lose. I think it was a great play going for 2, they went for it because their chances of winning go down after every OT.

"They couldnt have lasted another OT with Oklahoma".........thats rubbish

OU scored the TD in the overtime on a running play where Petersen just got outside and a few tackles were missed........thats it.......

This is part of the problem with the deception that smaller schools cant compete with the big boys.........Boise has a very effeciently balanced offense with a wide open playbook and you call it "gambling all game long"...........

 

[clark]

sure would be nice to have playoffs to find out but think this years boise team was a culmination of 6 years of being told your nobody!this team is gonna be around for awhile (this game did wonders for recruiting i bet) so get use to seeing them!

 

[blgstocks]

well we will have to agree to disagree about OU v Boise in OT. I saw a dominate football team that could and did score at will that was beaten by a team using trick plays and every last ounce of heart and luck.

Having a WR who has never thrown a TD pass all season throw a perfectly lofted ball on a 4th and goal is nothing more than luck, if he could do that every time dont you think he would be playing on another team at a different position?
Why don't all coaches use the same plays that you call effiecent and wide open? Because they are very easy to defend if you know they are coming, that is why they are trick plays.

Like I said Boise played great, but Boise had absolutely perfect execution on alot of trick plays to make it past Oklahoma. I think we can agree that Boise would have to continue to use these plays to beat Oklahoma and these plays require almost perfection on their execution with very little margin of error. I think the more these players run these tough plays the more likely they are to error. Zone Blocking for the #1 RB in the draft to run it in has alot more margin of error than a statue of liberty play, hook and ladder play, or a WR 5 yrd lofted throw to a TE.

 

[alb]

Smith was right on the money. Why else would they go for two? Do you think Sooners would do the same? OKL would score TD's effortlessly in OT....barring a turnover. Boise was on their last legs. How many 3rd and long/4th down plays could they keep converting. Kudos to the Broncos for winning on pure heart and some great play-calling in what was probably the best bowl game.

 

[hobbs]

Bah, no comment. Grats to Bst., better team that night won, 28-17 up goin into the 4th. They can compete. I would like to see ANY team go and play them on the Blue turf, practically unbeatable at home.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

well we will have to agree to disagree about OU v Boise in OT. I saw a dominate football team that could and did score at will that was beaten by a team using trick plays and every last ounce of heart and luck.

Having a WR who has never thrown a TD pass all season throw a perfectly lofted ball on a 4th and goal is nothing more than luck, if he could do that every time dont you think he would be playing on another team at a different position?
Why don't all coaches use the same plays that you call effiecent and wide open? Because they are very easy to defend if you know they are coming, that is why they are trick plays.

Like I said Boise played great, but Boise had absolutely perfect execution on alot of trick plays to make it past Oklahoma. I think we can agree that Boise would have to continue to use these plays to beat Oklahoma and these plays require almost perfection on their execution with very little margin of error. I think the more these players run these tough plays the more likely they are to error. Zone Blocking for the #1 RB in the draft to run it in has alot more margin of error than a statue of liberty play, hook and ladder play, or a WR 5 yrd lofted throw to a TE.

And how many chances did Oklahoma have to get their two point conversion at the end of the game?

And how 'lucky' were they to get the go ahead TD when the Boise QB threw the interception? Oklahoma was very lucky they got that game to OT. I guess we were watching different games....

If Ohio St loses to Florida, Boise deserves to be national champions on shear guts and heart alone....JMHO

 

[gjn23]

im sure all of you pimping boise were also screaming bloddy murder for UTAH a few years ago......they got screwed just like Auburn that year correct? UTAH should have been NCAA champs over SC and/or Auburn right?

Honestly, i like watching these teams play....i think utah and boise were good football teams who could compete with the big boys and beat them ini any bowl game..........but over an entire 12 game season playing a BCS conf schedule, they wouldnt finish with less than 2 losses.

 

[Blackman]

Honestly, i like watching these teams play....i think utah and boise were good football teams who could compete with the big boys and beat them ini any bowl game..........but over an entire 12 game season playing a BCS conf schedule, they wouldnt finish with less than 2 losses.

I agree with you over the long haul, and that both of these teams on any given day could take down a giant. The only thing I was screaming bloody murder about in regards to Utah was their bowl matchup that season -- would have loved to see them play Auburn instead of a pretty poor Pitt squad. I really think that would have been an interesting matchup.

 

[bryanz]

He says the reason Boise St( a other smaller schools) went for 2 is because they were tired and couldnt last in a 3 week playoff vs the bigger schools ..............

Listen Robert............you dumbass..........if you watched the same game last night I did..........Boise St pushed the big bad Okies all over the field.........if anything OK couldnt run the ball effectively all night.........

and for the 2 pt conversion.........if the reason was cause they were tired then why dont you try to tell me why Oregon State went for 2 at the end of the game vs Missouri?????

Hell they didnt even wait until OT to do it.......

When was the last time the majority of these guys on tv or radio were right about a game. The same info gets regurgitated and it becomes fact. USC, BOISE,WK, WIS, PEN ST, IOWA,KENTUCKY, even Fla St against a UCLA team that beat USC, they all jumped of USC and went with UCLA. This is nothing new, its been like this for years, listen to what they say and go the other way. All you get from the media is public perception. 30 yrs ago , when I listen to this trash , I had one thought, can they be this wrong on purpose. I don't know but the one thing that has not changed is, they are wrong more than they are right.

 

[blgstocks]

And how many chances did Oklahoma have to get their two point conversion at the end of the game?

And how 'lucky' were they to get the go ahead TD when the Boise QB threw the interception? Oklahoma was very lucky they got that game to OT. I guess we were watching different games....

If Ohio St loses to Florida, Boise deserves to be national champions on shear guts and heart alone....JMHO

We could analyze the whole game how one team was lucky to get turnovers here or there, anything regarding the bounce or tip of a football is nothing more than luck, so it is kind of pointless to argue about it IMO. And OU committed their fair share of TOs a well. BUT OU had 3 chances to get the 2pt conversion and completed it two out of three times and the only reason why they didnt go a perfect 3 for 3 is because boise mauled an OU wr. So I don't really think OU was lucky to go to OT, but Boise on the other hand completed an amazing play on 4th and forever that teams run out of sheer desperation, lucky for them, and because of their excellent execution, it worked.

Boise deserves to be National Champions when they win the National Championship Game.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

Just a couple thoughts....

Boise is a Division 1 team. They had a perfect season and aren't allowed to play for the title. All that shows is a very flawed system. Penn State had a perfect season in 1994. PENN F'N STATE! And they didn't get a chance at the title.
Somehow the BCS was supposed to trick us into thinking everything was fixed. I knew from DAY ONE that it wasn't.
Somehow the new system had NO IDEA that 3 teams could go unbeaten. In other words, AUBURN goes 13-0 and can't win it.

If a team is in Division 1 and has no chance no matter what they do, then they don't need to be in Division 1. So either kick them out of division 1, or let them play for the title.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

As for the game itself...

I'll say that Boise whipped them for a long time. Oklahoma came back, but they got lucky as hell with the punt that hit the blocker's foot and was ruled a fumble. It was a fluke, but that stuff does happen. I'm just saying it was very lucky, b/c I don't see them getting anywhere close to winning w/o it.

After saying that, Boise was lucky as hell to get the hook-and-ladder, etc. on the last drive.

It was a great game with a great ending. I think Boise was the better team on that night, but almost lost the way so many underdogs do. A favorite takes advantage of a break and plays, well like a favorite should.

I commend both teams on a great game and great respective seasons.