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President Barack Obama is leading Mitt Romney by 7 points among registered voters -- 52 percent to 45 percent -- in a just-released CNN/ORC International poll.
The margin echoes those of other polls released in recent days, and suggests that the barrage of tough advertisements against the presumptive Republican nominee has taken a toll. As CNN notes:
While Romney's favorable rating has remained steady (47% now compared to 48% in July), his unfavorable rating has jumped from 42% last month to 48% now ... Among independents, the poll indicates Romney's image has taken a beating. In May, only 40% of independents had an unfavorable view of Romney. Now, 52% of independents have a negative view of him.
These polls are, of course, just snapshots in time. But they underscore the problem that Romney's campaign now has on its hands. His image among the public has been largely defined by his opponent. And while Romney has plenty of cash to run ads of his own, time is running out for him to reverse this trend.
Take, for example, the following findings within the poll:
Sixty-four percent of all Americans, and 68% of independents, think Romney favors the rich over the middle class. And 63% of the public thinks Romney should release more tax returns than he has already made public, a figure which rises to 67% among independents.
UPDATE: 6:15 p.m. -- The recent trend of generally good news for the president continued on Thursday afternoon, with the release of a new poll by Fox News that showed Obama besting Romney by a 49 to 40 percent margin among registered voters. His lead has increased since last month's poll, when he enjoyed a 45 to 41 percent margin.
As with the CNN poll, the primary factor appears to be the barrage of negative ads directed Romney's way.
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:142smilie :mj07:
maybe it was Willards foreign policy trip :142smilie
The margin echoes those of other polls released in recent days, and suggests that the barrage of tough advertisements against the presumptive Republican nominee has taken a toll. As CNN notes:
While Romney's favorable rating has remained steady (47% now compared to 48% in July), his unfavorable rating has jumped from 42% last month to 48% now ... Among independents, the poll indicates Romney's image has taken a beating. In May, only 40% of independents had an unfavorable view of Romney. Now, 52% of independents have a negative view of him.
These polls are, of course, just snapshots in time. But they underscore the problem that Romney's campaign now has on its hands. His image among the public has been largely defined by his opponent. And while Romney has plenty of cash to run ads of his own, time is running out for him to reverse this trend.
Take, for example, the following findings within the poll:
Sixty-four percent of all Americans, and 68% of independents, think Romney favors the rich over the middle class. And 63% of the public thinks Romney should release more tax returns than he has already made public, a figure which rises to 67% among independents.
UPDATE: 6:15 p.m. -- The recent trend of generally good news for the president continued on Thursday afternoon, with the release of a new poll by Fox News that showed Obama besting Romney by a 49 to 40 percent margin among registered voters. His lead has increased since last month's poll, when he enjoyed a 45 to 41 percent margin.
As with the CNN poll, the primary factor appears to be the barrage of negative ads directed Romney's way.
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:142smilie :mj07:
maybe it was Willards foreign policy trip :142smilie
Mitt Romney says he wants a vice president with ?a vision for the country, that adds something to the political discourse about the direction of the country.?
He made the comments in an interview with NBC?s Chuck Todd, part of which will air on NBC?s Nightly News tonight and on MSNBC?s The Daily Rundown tomorrow morning
He made the comments in an interview with NBC?s Chuck Todd, part of which will air on NBC?s Nightly News tonight and on MSNBC?s The Daily Rundown tomorrow morning
Willard picks Ryan
So now we got Willard who wants to give tax breaks to the richest Americans
and Paul Ryan who wants to do away with
Medicare for senior citizens
:scared
what a pair :142smilie
So now we got Willard who wants to give tax breaks to the richest Americans
and Paul Ryan who wants to do away with
Medicare for senior citizens
:scared
what a pair :142smilie
Next to choosing Bachmann, Perry, Cain, or Palin, Ryan is probably the biggest gift Romney could have given to the Obama campaign.
Romney already had the conservative vote; not that they really liked him, but they already were dead set against voting for Obama. Polls show both ends already committed to their candidate. The battle is for the independents. Rob Portman was virtually the only choice, in the news, that would have gotten the attention of independents. Ryan's plan is so extreme, that only an extremist would vote for it.
As Reagan once said, "The problem with conservatives is that they know so much that just isn't so."
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here we go
hop on the bus now Grandma if these two get elected
Romney already had the conservative vote; not that they really liked him, but they already were dead set against voting for Obama. Polls show both ends already committed to their candidate. The battle is for the independents. Rob Portman was virtually the only choice, in the news, that would have gotten the attention of independents. Ryan's plan is so extreme, that only an extremist would vote for it.
As Reagan once said, "The problem with conservatives is that they know so much that just isn't so."
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here we go
hop on the bus now Grandma if these two get elected
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we dont allow much debate in here.
we pretty much read a few lines and call out cocksuckers when we see them.
so if you don't like it then try some intelligent debate
Cocksucker Gibass
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Romney's entire wealth strategy is what Republican's call a "good" businessman's strategy. He looked for every opportunity to cheat the system and get out of paying taxes. The business model for Bain was to swoop down on failing companies run them into the ground while sucking the life blood out of them and leaving creditors and employees with nothing.
Romney made nothing, contributed nothing, ....he's one of those shrewd "good businessmen" that know how to exploit, evade, capitalize, and profit on the efforts of other people.....he's a Wall Street kind of guy.
Now knowing that, what do really think those tax returns would show?
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yeh what would it show :SIB
Romney made nothing, contributed nothing, ....he's one of those shrewd "good businessmen" that know how to exploit, evade, capitalize, and profit on the efforts of other people.....he's a Wall Street kind of guy.
Now knowing that, what do really think those tax returns would show?
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yeh what would it show :SIB
.."Oooo...I think I poopy my pants again!
I do that everytime you guys talk about my taxes..oooo..stinky stinky poopy !!
you people can bite my white ass
GEORGETOWN, S.C. -- The rusty stains on Shirley Carter's home are a permanent reminder of her fight with the local steel mill, just down U.S. Highway 17 near the boat docks. No matter how many cans of industrial-strength acid she went through, the red tint on her property never seemed to go away.
In 1998, Carter and her neighbors sued Georgetown Steel, then owned by the company Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney co-founded, Bain Capital. They sought millions in cleanup costs and accused the mill's owners of leaving their historic Southern neighborhood looking like it had been hit by a "chemical bomb."
State officials determined the mill was largely to blame for the pollution. As the lawsuit dragged on for years, the steel mill filed for bankruptcy and the plant ultimately settled with the residents.
In the end, Bain walked away with more than $30 million in profits. Carter got $800
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that Willard
what a guy
In 1998, Carter and her neighbors sued Georgetown Steel, then owned by the company Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney co-founded, Bain Capital. They sought millions in cleanup costs and accused the mill's owners of leaving their historic Southern neighborhood looking like it had been hit by a "chemical bomb."
State officials determined the mill was largely to blame for the pollution. As the lawsuit dragged on for years, the steel mill filed for bankruptcy and the plant ultimately settled with the residents.
In the end, Bain walked away with more than $30 million in profits. Carter got $800
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that Willard
what a guy
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Talk about a major faux paux
holy chit the guy can't even say the right thing
announcing his VP
maybe Ryan will be like President Cheney was to George W
what a dork Willard is
Talk about a major faux paux
holy chit the guy can't even say the right thing
announcing his VP
maybe Ryan will be like President Cheney was to George W
what a dork Willard is
He's been in Congress for nearly 14 years, but Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has only seen two of his bills pass into law during that time.
Ryan, who Mitt Romney has tapped as his running mate, passed a bill into law in July 2000 that renames a post office in his district. Thanks to Ryan, the post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as "Les Aspin Post Office Building."
The other time Ryan saw one of his bills become law was in December 2008, with legislation to change the way arrows (as in bows and arrows) are hit with an excise tax. Specifically, his bill amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price. The bill also "includes points suitable for use with arrows in the 11 percent excise tax on arrow parts and accessories."
Kevin Seifert, Ryan's congressional spokesman, did not respond to a request for comment.
UPDATE: 2:30 p.m. -- It appears Ryan had a personal interest in passing the arrow tax bill: He is an accomplished bowhunter. Jay McAninch, president of the Archery Trade Association, earlier this year praised Ryan on his blog for pushing that bill through.
"Congressman Ryan has never asked for anything from the archery industry when he?s done things for bowhunting," McAninch said. "Nearly 10 years ago, he led an effort to change the tax on arrows and level the playing field for arrow manufacturers, especially those making arrows on American soil. For that, he took nothing from us except our thanks and gratitude."
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Ryan sounds like a real go getter.
wtf kind of record is that
bows and arrows :142smilie
Ryan, who Mitt Romney has tapped as his running mate, passed a bill into law in July 2000 that renames a post office in his district. Thanks to Ryan, the post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as "Les Aspin Post Office Building."
The other time Ryan saw one of his bills become law was in December 2008, with legislation to change the way arrows (as in bows and arrows) are hit with an excise tax. Specifically, his bill amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price. The bill also "includes points suitable for use with arrows in the 11 percent excise tax on arrow parts and accessories."
Kevin Seifert, Ryan's congressional spokesman, did not respond to a request for comment.
UPDATE: 2:30 p.m. -- It appears Ryan had a personal interest in passing the arrow tax bill: He is an accomplished bowhunter. Jay McAninch, president of the Archery Trade Association, earlier this year praised Ryan on his blog for pushing that bill through.
"Congressman Ryan has never asked for anything from the archery industry when he?s done things for bowhunting," McAninch said. "Nearly 10 years ago, he led an effort to change the tax on arrows and level the playing field for arrow manufacturers, especially those making arrows on American soil. For that, he took nothing from us except our thanks and gratitude."
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Ryan sounds like a real go getter.
wtf kind of record is that
bows and arrows :142smilie
Only 2 bills passed by Ryan personally, but look at his record for voting against bills:
Aid to those facing foreclosure - nay,
Dream Act - nay,
Aid to States for Medicaid - nay
Small Business lending and funding - nay,
Ending moratorium on deep water drilling - nay
Removal of Armed forces from Pakistan - nay,
Flood Insurance programs - nay, ACA - nay
Hate crime expansion nay,
Food Safety reg. - nay,
Science and Technology funding - nay
National Hwy Bridge reconstruction Act - nay, GI
Bill expansion - nay, Credit Card Reg.nay
Funding for AIDS,
TB nay,
National Volunteer expansion nay,
employment discrimination nay
In fairness he did vote YEA for the bill Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks.
Can?t you just see his vision for America based on his voting record.
The American People are not his concern. He doesn?t even want small government he wants laisez faire corporation rule.
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This guy is perfect for Willard
He gets nothing done and votes Nay on
everything.
:scared :SIB
Aid to those facing foreclosure - nay,
Dream Act - nay,
Aid to States for Medicaid - nay
Small Business lending and funding - nay,
Ending moratorium on deep water drilling - nay
Removal of Armed forces from Pakistan - nay,
Flood Insurance programs - nay, ACA - nay
Hate crime expansion nay,
Food Safety reg. - nay,
Science and Technology funding - nay
National Hwy Bridge reconstruction Act - nay, GI
Bill expansion - nay, Credit Card Reg.nay
Funding for AIDS,
TB nay,
National Volunteer expansion nay,
employment discrimination nay
In fairness he did vote YEA for the bill Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks.
Can?t you just see his vision for America based on his voting record.
The American People are not his concern. He doesn?t even want small government he wants laisez faire corporation rule.
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This guy is perfect for Willard
He gets nothing done and votes Nay on
everything.
:scared :SIB
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Yeh Paul , thats the way to do it.
dont engage them , have the police throw them out with the garbage
looks bad
pity really
Yeh Paul , thats the way to do it.
dont engage them , have the police throw them out with the garbage
looks bad
pity really
Scooter, just a couple of LOSERS, probably with some organized group of IDIOTS.
Nuff Said
:toast:
Nuff Said
:toast:
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so your talking about Willard and Ryan and the GOP then :0074
thankfully you are coming around
When you genuinely live life through a prism of gratitude, you don't use analogies that minimize the impact others have on your life. When you live life through that prism, you don't see voters and delegates, you don't see the budget as just a bunch of numbers you have to make work.
You see the lives.
Romney doesn't irk us because he was born into privilege. He irks us because he behaves as if being born into privilege had nothing to do with his success. His wife, Ann, was supposed to make her husband more appealing. It didn't work. Now the question is: Can Paul Ryan make Mitt likeable?
I doubt it.
When men like Ryan or Obama or Vice President Joe Biden roll their sleeves up to talk to blue collar voters, it feels real because it's coming from a real place inside.
When Romney rolls his sleeves up, it's clear he's trying to send a message -- because his sense of entitlement and social disconnect prevents him from being the message.
That doesn't mean people won't vote for him in November. It's just that they won't be doing so because they like him.
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damn dude it the nail on the head.
You see the lives.
Romney doesn't irk us because he was born into privilege. He irks us because he behaves as if being born into privilege had nothing to do with his success. His wife, Ann, was supposed to make her husband more appealing. It didn't work. Now the question is: Can Paul Ryan make Mitt likeable?
I doubt it.
When men like Ryan or Obama or Vice President Joe Biden roll their sleeves up to talk to blue collar voters, it feels real because it's coming from a real place inside.
When Romney rolls his sleeves up, it's clear he's trying to send a message -- because his sense of entitlement and social disconnect prevents him from being the message.
That doesn't mean people won't vote for him in November. It's just that they won't be doing so because they like him.
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damn dude it the nail on the head.
But that only further highlighted his campaign's unwillingness to put out a detailed plan of its own. And it raised again the question of how his overall tax plan -- which extends the Bush tax cuts, reduces individual rates by 20 percent, eliminates taxes on investment income for middle- and lower income taxpayers, repeals the alternative minimum tax and gets rid of the estate tax -- wouldn't balloon the deficit.
Romney's campaign has insisted that they can trim federal spending enough to achieve fiscal balance, but in the Fortune interview, the items Romney pinpointed appeared to be low-hanging fruit.
Romney identified subsidies for Amtrak, PBS, the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities as things he would eliminate. The government spends $444 million a year on the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (the parent organization of PBS); Amtrak received $1.56 billion in federal funding in 2010, with $1.3 billion in stimulus funds; while the National Endowment of the Arts lists the current level of federal funding at approximately $146 million.
Romney said he would block grant Medicaid and send programs like housing vouchers and food stamps back to the states. This, he argued, would save the federal government "approximately $100 billion a year within four years" (the House GOP budget claims to save $771 billion over 10 years). It would also mean dramatic cuts to each of these programs, as states are already dealing with major budget shortfalls.
Romney also told Fortune that he would reduce the number of federal programs by 10 percent through attrition, while tying the compensation of federal workers to that in the private sector. "That saves about $47 billion a year, by the way," he said.
All told, the savings that Romney identified for Fortune would add up to roughly $750 billion over 10 years (depending on the baseline comparison). On Monday and Tuesday, Romney announced that he would restore roughly the same amount ($718 billion) to Medicare as part of his plan to repeal the health care law President Barack Obama put in place.
Theoretically, Romney could find savings to help pay for his tax plan in the defense budget. In his Fortune interview, he acknowledged that there were "enormous opportunities for efficiency and cost savings in the military." But in the very next breath, he committed himself to using those "those savings" not towards reducing the deficit "but instead will be necessary to increase the number of active-duty personnel by approximately 100,000, to restore our military equipment which has been destroyed in conflict, and to invest in the coming technologies of warfare."
In sum, Romney's plan would put off entitlement reforms for 10 years, and rules out reductions in defense spending and major changes to the current tax code, while promising to bring federal spending below 20 percent of GDP by 2016. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein argues this is either fantasy mathematics, or Romney would essentially have to cut every single federal program by 40 percent.
Among those programs would be those that invest in infrastructure, which consume a fair amount of the budget. But Romney has been unwilling to say he'd make that cut. In his Fortune interview, he pledged "very substantial investments over the coming decade" on items like "highways as well as rail and air and communications infrastructure."
Where the money would come from to pay for that, he didn't say
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we are doomed Willard if this is what you are going to do.
Romney's campaign has insisted that they can trim federal spending enough to achieve fiscal balance, but in the Fortune interview, the items Romney pinpointed appeared to be low-hanging fruit.
Romney identified subsidies for Amtrak, PBS, the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities as things he would eliminate. The government spends $444 million a year on the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (the parent organization of PBS); Amtrak received $1.56 billion in federal funding in 2010, with $1.3 billion in stimulus funds; while the National Endowment of the Arts lists the current level of federal funding at approximately $146 million.
Romney said he would block grant Medicaid and send programs like housing vouchers and food stamps back to the states. This, he argued, would save the federal government "approximately $100 billion a year within four years" (the House GOP budget claims to save $771 billion over 10 years). It would also mean dramatic cuts to each of these programs, as states are already dealing with major budget shortfalls.
Romney also told Fortune that he would reduce the number of federal programs by 10 percent through attrition, while tying the compensation of federal workers to that in the private sector. "That saves about $47 billion a year, by the way," he said.
All told, the savings that Romney identified for Fortune would add up to roughly $750 billion over 10 years (depending on the baseline comparison). On Monday and Tuesday, Romney announced that he would restore roughly the same amount ($718 billion) to Medicare as part of his plan to repeal the health care law President Barack Obama put in place.
Theoretically, Romney could find savings to help pay for his tax plan in the defense budget. In his Fortune interview, he acknowledged that there were "enormous opportunities for efficiency and cost savings in the military." But in the very next breath, he committed himself to using those "those savings" not towards reducing the deficit "but instead will be necessary to increase the number of active-duty personnel by approximately 100,000, to restore our military equipment which has been destroyed in conflict, and to invest in the coming technologies of warfare."
In sum, Romney's plan would put off entitlement reforms for 10 years, and rules out reductions in defense spending and major changes to the current tax code, while promising to bring federal spending below 20 percent of GDP by 2016. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein argues this is either fantasy mathematics, or Romney would essentially have to cut every single federal program by 40 percent.
Among those programs would be those that invest in infrastructure, which consume a fair amount of the budget. But Romney has been unwilling to say he'd make that cut. In his Fortune interview, he pledged "very substantial investments over the coming decade" on items like "highways as well as rail and air and communications infrastructure."
Where the money would come from to pay for that, he didn't say
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we are doomed Willard if this is what you are going to do.
In an interview with NBC set to air Thursday, Ann Romney, wife of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, said her husband's campaign will not release any additional tax returns to the public ahead of the election.
"We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us," Romney told reporter Natalie Morales, according to excerpts from NBC News. "There's going to be no more tax releases given."
Defying a longstanding trend among presidential candidates, the Romney campaign has only released a single -- and likely incomplete -- tax return. Politicians and pundits from both sides of the aisle have been pressuring Romney for weeks to disclose more of his tax history, culminating with a claim from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) two weeks ago that he'd heard from an early investor in Bain Capital that Romney didn?t pay any taxes for a decade. Romney has denied that claim.
Ann Romney said that releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition." The Romneys' wealth is rumored to be as much as $250 million, and since much of Mitt Romney's earnings come from investments, he would pay a lower effective tax rate than many lesser-off Americans. But as for whether the campaign is trying to withhold embarrassing information, Ann Romney told NBC "there's nothing we're hiding."
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send in a woman to take the edge off
too big a pussychops huh Willard
they are not hiding nothing
they are hiding everything
"We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us," Romney told reporter Natalie Morales, according to excerpts from NBC News. "There's going to be no more tax releases given."
Defying a longstanding trend among presidential candidates, the Romney campaign has only released a single -- and likely incomplete -- tax return. Politicians and pundits from both sides of the aisle have been pressuring Romney for weeks to disclose more of his tax history, culminating with a claim from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) two weeks ago that he'd heard from an early investor in Bain Capital that Romney didn?t pay any taxes for a decade. Romney has denied that claim.
Ann Romney said that releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition." The Romneys' wealth is rumored to be as much as $250 million, and since much of Mitt Romney's earnings come from investments, he would pay a lower effective tax rate than many lesser-off Americans. But as for whether the campaign is trying to withhold embarrassing information, Ann Romney told NBC "there's nothing we're hiding."
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send in a woman to take the edge off
too big a pussychops huh Willard
they are not hiding nothing
they are hiding everything
There is nothing we are hiding from you people
you beeeeecchsss and bastids .
NOW LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US CONTROL
THE NEXT FOUR YEARS
SUFFER BEECHS
