Rose admits to betting on Reds every night

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Pete comes out with a press release every so often whenever he feels he's fading from the public eye. His releases always contradict he's former pronouncements (ie. I didn't bet on baseball, I bet on baseball but not on the Reds, ad nauseum).

He is a pathetic, sick human being who needs to be in the limelight. He has never acknowledged his gambling problem and continues to bet everything he has. He is in a state of constant denial.

He broke the rule against gambling on baseball and accepted the lifetime ban INCLUDING NO ACCEPTANCE INTO THE HALL OF FAME. Come on you law and order types, why are you looking the other way now?

He should remain banned and forgotten.

Eddie
 

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Pete comes out with a press release every so often whenever he feels he's fading from the public eye.../ ...He is a pathetic, sick human being who needs to be in the limelight.../ ...He is in a state of constant denial.

as soon as i read this i immediately thought of OJ.

different crimes on different levels, but two sad individuals from a similar mold.
 

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pete rose is an ass and deserves whatever fate awaits him......for now, his fate is a LIFETIME BAN from baseball which equates to NOT BEING IN THE HALL OF FAME....end of story.

the guy is an ego-maniac who thinks everything revolves around him....AND HE STILL DOES....hell his quotes after admitting he bet on baseball still has him believing he is the best ambassador for baseball and should still be a manager.....what a piece of work.

I will never forget this guy and how combatative and confrontational he was when on the local radio back in 92-93 when the late chet forte (former mnf producer and big gambler in his own right) asked him about betting on baseball and the dowd report....the guy had the audacity to get in his face, ask forte if he ever read the report, to actually show him where the evidence was that he bet on baseball, accused fay vincent of lying, accused dowd of forging evidence, basicallt went ballistic on anybody who questioned his innocence.....shocker that it took the clown 15 years to slowly leak the "truth", for that attitude alone i say rot in hell and stay the hell out of the hall or at least dont put him in until after he drops dead.....

next thing you know sombody will tell us that oj was actually the real killer.
 

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Liar, liar

By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports
March 14, 2007




The truth with Pete Rose never really has been the truth. It's more a malleable set of claims to further a self-serving agenda.

So when investigator John M. Dowd, the man who brought down Rose with the damning 1989 report that proved he did bet on baseball, heard Rose claiming Wednesday on ESPN Radio that he bet "every night" on the Cincinnati Reds teams he managed, one thought crept forward.

It's just another lie.

"He did not always bet to win," Dowd said from his Virginia home. "And when he didn't bet on the Reds, he sent a signal to the bookmakers to bet to lose.

"I have no idea what he's doing. Who knows, this guy? He spends almost 15 years calling me a liar, then writes a sorry-ass book that admits what's in my report. Now the report is right. Well, glad to hear it."




Although Dowd's official report claims "no evidence was discovered that Rose bet against the Cincinnati Reds," Dowd said he found evidence Rose would not bet on games in which, as manager, he used Bill Gullickson and Mario Soto as starting pitchers. Dowd said he could not vet the information in time to include in the report.

Still, the evidence was overwhelming enough to banish Rose from baseball for life on Aug. 24, 1989. Ever since, he has lobbied for reinstatement, trying another con on a baseball-viewing public that would prefer its Hit King weren't a scheming degenerate.

"I don't believe Pete Rose on virtually anything," said Fay Vincent, the former commissioner and Bart Giamatti's deputy when the ban was levied, from his Florida home. "He's smart enough to recognize now that when you take a day off, it's like you bet against your own team."

Rose, whose record 4,256 hits may never be broken, appeared on the Dan Patrick Show to discuss the exhibit at Cincinnati's Great American Ball Park that will honor Rose's career for the next year. What compelled him to make Wednesday's claim is unclear.

"One thing I can tell you about Pete Rose," Dowd said, "is that he doesn't do things without a reason."

The conversation quickly moved to the controversies of Rose's career. He said he bet on the Reds every night "because I love my team, I believe in my team." He called himself "the best ambassador baseball has." And he claimed he "quit worrying about" making the National Baseball Hall of Fame. :mj07:

Rose admitted to betting on baseball in a 2004 book to curry favor with commissioner Bud Selig about a possible reinstatement and possible induction into the Hall. Selig denied him then and has made no indication that his position will change.

"I think Rose is going to die outside of the Hall of Fame," Vincent said. "I don't think he'll get in, and Shoeless Joe won't, either. Nobody will get reinstated. You have to do what Rose should've done. If he had admitted things back in '89 with Bart and me, it would've been different.

"There's no support. Nobody in the Hall of Fame wants him in there. Nobody in baseball wants him in the game. When you lie for almost 15 years, it chases you."

Rose currently travels the country appearing at memorabilia shows and independent-league games to peddle autographs. For $350, fans can buy personalized baseballs on which Rose writes: "I'm sorry I bet on baseball." :nono:

He may really be contrite.

Though with Pete Rose, the truth never is easy.


Jeff Passan is a national baseball writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jeff a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

Updated on Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 9:16 pm EDT
 

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Does this piece of shit really think that people are naive enough to think he bet on EVERY Reds game to win?

Let me ask you this. Do you really think that he would bet on his team in games when his best player was injured, or his pitcher is a rookie making his first appearance, or a depleated bullpen, or they are playing the league leaders that hotter than hell away or...I could go on and on.

This guy is trying to deflecting that he actually bet against the Reds. Remember this is the same guy that said he did not bet on baseball and was all high and mighty when someone accused him of doing so.

I have to admit that this guys was one of the greatest ballplayers that I have ever seen.

Sorry for the rant guys.
 

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He broke the rule against gambling on baseball and accepted the lifetime ban INCLUDING NO ACCEPTANCE INTO THE HALL OF FAME.


This is the main point of the whole thing. He willingly accepted the ban. Then the commish dies, and he comes up with some agreement they made about the ban being revisited since the commish isn't around to contradict it.

MAYBE after he's dead. But he absolutely should not be in the Hall now.
 
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